==Coming to Jesus, armed: Virginia Senate OKs guns in churches...==''"Blessed be the lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle."''http://archive.today/2019.01.25-170033/https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virgi

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Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 17:03:53 2cb54a No.761477

Coming to Jesus, armed: Virginia Senate OKs guns in churches…

"Blessed be the lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle."

http://archive.today/2019.01.25-170033/https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/article_1113da8a-209d-11e9-847b-c34ec08bfea9.html

Virginians could legally bring their guns to church under a bill that cleared the state Senate this week and sparked an emotional debate over whether packing heat in a house of worship constitutes a snub to the Almighty. "Psalm 46 said, 'God is our refuge and strength,'" Sen. Lionell Spruill Sr., D, said as he argued against the measure Thursday. "Now we are saying with this bill, we no longer trust in God." The bill repeals a law thought to date to Colonial times which makes it a misdemeanor to "carry any gun, pistol, bowie knife, dagger or other dangerous weapon without good and sufficient reason, to a place of worship" during religious services.

While Virginia has a strong gun culture and some of the nation's most lax firearms laws, churches have been gun-free zones - although the "good and sufficient reason" language offers a loophole. In 2011, then-Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, R, issued an opinion that the ban would not apply to someone with a concealed-carry permit. Some Republicans contend that makes the existing law unenforceable. They also said plenty of Virginians are already coming to Jesus (or Allah or whomever) armed. Sen. Richard Black, R, wants to repeal the law. He made note of mass shootings at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012 and at an African Methodist church in South Carolina in 2015 as he pitched his bill on the Senate floor.

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 19:05:06 8e75da No.761502

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>>761477

/k/ristians sound off

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 19:21:41 9815e0 No.761513

God how I wish I could live in a back water american country.

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 19:28:56 8e75da No.761516

>>761513

Begome :-DD

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 19:31:08 44ca7d No.761517

>>761513

It is pretty winnie the pooh cool sometimes lol

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 19:32:08 57a712 No.761519

This is already the norm all over the South

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 22:33:22 7f3417 No.761567

>>761510

>this is what Mormons actually believe

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 22:43:38 499f0d No.761571

>>761519

No it isn't. People don't take their guns to church. I grew up in a tiny 2,000 person East Texas town and nobody ever came to church armed. Because it's stupid.

Christanon 01/25/19 (Fri) 23:11:09 980615 No.761586

>>761573

A church cannot infringe upon the second amendment right of its members. A “gun-free zone” is just a hunting preserve anyway.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 00:06:22 be53a7 No.761602

>>761586

The ideal would have been for this to be decided independently as is commonly done with other private establishments.

The problem in this country and the world for that matter is too many private entities want to behave like their own nation and circumvent the nation's laws as much as they can.

>>761571

This would be useful toward protecting from tragedies like those which have been occuring recently, that is what the weapons are there for after all.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 00:16:04 499f0d No.761609

>>761586

A church is private property. Just like I can tell you to not bring guns into my house, a church can tell you not to bring guns into the building. Your rights end where mine begin.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 02:23:28 140cc3 No.761666

>>761609

>You must provide anal sex to anyone who solicits it if the owners of the property you are on have established it as a rule. Your rights end where theirs begin.

Such is also why some churches have not been able to be used as refugee sanctuaries.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 07:11:16 87c7be No.761759

>>761502

i'm a damn yankee so they won't let me have a real gun

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 07:12:49 87c7be No.761761

>>761609

i-is that a threat?

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 07:31:56 564816 No.761771

>>761571

I grew up in a 1,000 person north Oklahoma town and nobody ever left home without a piece on them.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 07:39:19 ec519e No.761772

>>761666

Go away satan. You are purposefully misunderstanding him. Sodomy isn't a right. Protecting one's self, property, and family is.

Christanon 01/26/19 (Sat) 09:18:45 d71867 No.761785

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>>761502

Best Carolina reporting in.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 13:29:47 a180de No.762356

Everyone has a right to protect their selves

In today's world people do crazy things

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 13:33:23 a180de No.762357

>>761571

Savages

People don't know how to fallow the law

The plains are so far spread out you need to arm your self

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 13:33:51 71ce37 No.762358

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>>762356

Agreed. Although I’m biased, of course.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 13:42:00 a5ada1 No.762360

>>761785

>no Cookout

>no American Spirits

>no Duck Donuts

>no Hwy 55

>no Food Lion

>no Ingles

Yankee-LARPer begone. On topic: its self-defeating to wear a gun to church. It makes sense if you're in a war-zone, but in America?

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 14:07:17 71ce37 No.762368

>>762360

Church shootings happen. They'll probably start happening more in places like Arkansas, with leftards chimping out over the Ten Commandments statue and the like.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 14:19:36 fe5169 No.762370

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I really wish I lived in a nice place like that.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 14:27:39 a5ada1 No.762373

>>762368

Church shootings are more rare than school shootings. Just lock it up in your car and pick it up afterwards.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 15:10:55 71ce37 No.762384

>>762373

I really don't care. It does me no good in an emergency of it's locked in my car. It's like having a jack for my car and keeping it in my house when I go somewhere.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 17:19:25 1fa29b No.762401

I don't get why people are getting upset over this. Bringing a gun with you to church isn't about making a statement that you don't trust God to protect you. If anything, I'd feel safer knowing my fellow parishioners also concealed carried firearms.

God protects the people he loves in various ways. Sometimes it's through an armed populace. I'm not going to open carry my L1A1 and start running breach and clear drills to make a scene and show off my sick firepower, but when I get a CCW permit I'll always try to be carrying when I attend church. I love and respect my parish too much to leave them undefended.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 19:16:25 9ce625 No.762458

Virginian here.

Someone at my church always has a loaded gun. This is a new procedure my church has adopted as of last year. A group of the church elders, in secret, draw straws to see who brings their handgun next Sunday so no one knows who is carrying.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 20:56:21 a78e6f No.762480

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>>762373

>doesn't have a group of CCW holders doing his church's security

t. cuck church

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 22:06:47 04d20f No.762523

I sure wish my country allowed me to have the ability to defend myself and my fellow brothers

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 22:22:32 55c0f7 No.762530

I understand this, I really do (heck, I even sell guns for a living right now) but the prohibition on weapons in churches is ancient. And more morbidly, wouldn't the church be the best place to die in? Gunned down as a martyr while praising the Lord. I'm not saying we should aspire to that fate, but if you have to get shot somewhere why not there?

>>761771

I carry daily as well, but I leave the gats in the car for church. My state also doesn't allow carry unless authorized by the priest or pastor and my priest hasn't said anything about it nor have I asked.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 22:29:39 4bcdab No.762533

>>761571

>Because it's stupid

Dylann Roof

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 22:30:18 04d20f No.762534

>>762530

Certainly being a martyr is cool and all but you have to think of the other people, your gun isn't there just to defend yourself.

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 23:21:42 b619f4 No.762551

>>761571

Sutherland springs

Christanon 01/27/19 (Sun) 23:54:16 9d7afd No.762562

I imagine a bunch of people from /christian/ going to church armed and thinking they're justified in shooting everyone for "heresy".