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>high school kid that has never read a Bible and is now reading Iliad as his introductory English Lit class project

The fact you think Jupiter and the biblical God are even slightly similar at all belies your illiteracy. Lurk for at least 2 years before you post.

>>760946

Name one trait of Yahweh (and not his followers) that is even remotely similar to Jupiter.

Jupiter: literal whore who likes ladyboys

Yahweh: no physical sexual interaction of any kind, as sex is only a dim reflection of His love for the beings created in His image, and His bride is the Church.

>>760946

Given that Zeus starts the Trojan War, sending thousands of young men to their pointless deaths on behalf of a woman, just because he wouldn't man up and judge at a beauty contest, is literally doing the exact opposite of everything Jehovah would have done. Zeus' actions make the world and the sufferings it contains into a sick and pointless parody and he cares not a wit for mortals. The God of the Bible however is one of justice (Ezekiel 18:23)

How can you even say that?

They couldn't be more different. The pagan gods are like super heroes.

Warn me if those gods always were, always are and always will be gods.

God is the absolute being. The existance and the cause of IT. The maker of everything there is and without him things cannot be. He is infinite, pure spirit, the supreme good and love, the absolute justice… Even Aristoteles and Plato (although not perfectly) realised that.

Jesus Christ/Jahveh is the only one that can say: I AM WHO I AM.

Greek gods don't even try to approximate something like that. They are gods of aspects. i.e. fertility, lightning, the sea, etc.. The God of the Bible is called the Almighty for a reason.

>Also read something like the Mesha Stele, it reads very much like the OT and it even has Chemosh triumphing over Yahweh

What the winnie the pooh is that and why should we care?

I can write my own fiction where I can beat everyone as well.

>when you get so assblasted by Israel you have to write a comic book style story to win

>>761156

>All the pagan worshipers believed that Man was an accident.

Either that, or playthings.. like with the Sumerians. People sometimes raise parallels with the Eden story that the Bible shared. But in Sumer, the garden was created FOR the gods. And men were slavish keepers of the garden, to please the gods. Until Enki, the reptile god, sparked a rebellion using the humans.

Strange parallels, I agree.. but in the Bible story, man is gifted with God's image, given dominion, and not a slave. And it was the reptillian who deceived them, rather than liberated them.

>>761159

One could argue the sumer story is a corruption of the history of Adam and Eve.

And if the devil had the gentile nations in his power he would do good in inverting the roles.

>>761175

Yes, I suspect as much. Other than that, Abraham was Sumerian himself. And his dad (Terah) actually means "priest". It could very well be that Abraham was a breakaway from this corrupt system and when God called him to create a new breakaway civilization, he corrected him on the truth. Perhaps he even convinced his father, since Terah originally left with him.

>>761180

It could be very well the case.

Since Noah shit went bad (once again lol) and of course it's natural to assume people twisted the history told by their forefathers.

Then God told Abraham the real story or didn't and revealed it only to Moses.

>>761182

In any case, it's fun to speculate a little about filling in the gaps. It seems to be an old pastime. There is an apocryphal text (Jubilees, I think?.. which Koran itself sniped from) that touches on some of this. Where apparently Abraham worked in an "idol shop" run by his dad. And one day, smashed them. Then apparently had a confrontation with the leaders and Abraham was called on by God to flee.

It's probably fiction, of course, but interesting that we've been speculating this long.

Sumer, btw, could be said to be root of Greek gods.. via the Hittites.. who then spread their influence to Greece and elsewhere. So Greeks are just getting a mangled version of their own idols. But the Bible has an OG in Abraham.

>>761188

Tbh I'd like to see a movie on Abraham (made by Mel Gibson) it could even include some of this stories to fill the gaps as long as it didn't go against the faith.

>Sumer, btw, could be said to be root of Greek gods.. via the Hittites.. who then spread their influence to Greece and elsewhere.

Well it can be said that everyone in the word except the Jews were polytheists because they came from the same stock.

Its impressive that everyone else had basically the same theological beliefs (only the myths changed or sometimes got readapted) except the Jews. Even in Zoroastronism we see the belief in two gods, one good and a evil one in an approach to monotheism probably influenced by Jewish beliefs.

And history tells us the first civilization was in sumeria so it makes sense, and besides mankind was kinda confined there due to the recent flood that killed everyone.