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>>760275

https://therightscoop.com/horrible-late-term-abortion-is-now-legal-in-new-york/

Archive link to the New Yorker: http://archive.is/beth5

Be warned, the New Yorker article is a frustrating pile of prose with the occasional "muh reproductive rights" and "muh doctors and women are the best deciders of whether murder is ok." She even seems to justify the murder of children by saying, basically, "Well, we don't think they're children, so it's fine."

>>760275

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-york-legislature-votes-to-protect-roe-legalize-abortion-up-to-birth

Both chambers of the New York state legislature voted Tuesday on legislation to enshrine a “fundamental right” to abortion in state law and eliminate protections for preborn babies until birth, in votes set to mark the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

The state Senate voted 38-24 in favor of the so-called “Reproductive Health Act” Tuesday evening, the Albany Times-Union reports, a bill that has repeatedly cleared the state Assembly in years past but been blocked by the formerly-Republican Senate. Following the Senate vote, the Assembly passed it 92-47.

The bill declares that “Every individual who becomes pregnant has the fundamental right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term, to give birth to a child, or to have an abortion,” erases the state’s recognition of preborn babies older than 24 weeks as potential homicide victims, removes abortion from the penal code entirely, and allows licensed health practitioners other than full doctors to commit abortions.

“We have a president who's made it very, very clear that he wants to overturn Roe v. Wade,” Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins declared before the vote. “Today, here in New York, we are saying no […] and we're not just saying no. We're saying that here in New York, women's health matters. We're saying here in New York, women's lives matter. We're saying here in New York, women's decisions matter.”

The Times-Union suggests the bill would allow “late-stage” abortions only if the mother’s “health” is endangered or if the baby is deemed non-viable, but the New York State Right to Life Committee warns that the bill would go much further in practice.

Declaring abortion a “fundamental right” opens the door to invalidating “any limits on abortion” and “mandat[ing] that everyone take part in the culture of death,” the group warns. The bill would also prevent pregnant women whose babies are killed in violent attacks from seeing justice, and have the effect of “authorizing infanticide” by repealing the requirement that a second physician be on hand in the event that an attempted abortion past 20 weeks yields a live infant.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2019/01/22/abortion-laws-new-york-how-they-change-immediately/2643065002/

New York legalized abortion three years prior to the landmark Roe v. Wade case, but New York still kept abortion in its criminal code, making it a felony to perform late-term abortions.

The 1970 law defined homicide as "conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn child with which a female has been pregnant for more than 24 weeks."

The Reproductive Health Act strips abortions from the penal code and adds the following language:

>"The legislature finds that comprehensive reproductive health care is a fundamental component of every individual's health, privacy and equality. Therefore, it is the policy of the state that: Every individual has the fundamental right to choose or refuse contraception or sterilization. Every individual who becomes pregnant has the fundamental right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term, to give birth to a child, or to have an abortion, pursuant to this article"

The new law will allow a licensed "health-care practitioner" acting under their scope of practice to perform an abortion when:

>"According to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case: the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health."

Might as well legalize the post-natal abortion too.

>>760273

>Sweet Lord, I pray, I have lost hope that my country can be spared your righteous judgement, but I beg you to remember your flock in the midst of your wrath.

Get out of there, Lot.

>>760273

(((Jew York)))

>>760282

Wouldn't surprise me. Every day I feel more and more like we are living in a South Park episode. You know how when you make a joke you intentionally take it to the next extreme, hoping that everyone understands that that would be beyond absurd, except that here no one gets the joke and takes you seriously.

>>760273

And to think, yesterday was declared by the Church to be a day of prayer for the legal protection of the unborn.

Lord have mercy upon us.

>>760334

We live amongst demons! There can be no other explanation for this, especially when their zeal to spread their wickedness is taken into account.

The end can't come sooner. I made a thread about this just the other day.

>>760304

>living in a South Park episode where everything is taken to a extreme

That's a excellent way to put it, seems like common sense is a thing of the past.

Deus Vult

No it can't be true for the love of God.

Even the spartan killing of babies was more merciful.

Its murder pure and simple, even worse than abortion. The baby is fully aware now.

Wtf is going on?

>>760335

This. There's no other explanation.

>>760286

Where to?

>>760286

Why not cleanse it? They're all unarmed cucks anyway. Kill them in the street.

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,

MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND

ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH

>>760301

Firing Squad is arguably the most humane form of execution widely available. Injection can be easily botched and last many painful hours. Hanging can last minutes. Guillotines and decapitation can leave someone in conscious pain for up to 13 seconds. Firing squads offer reliable effectiveness; the prisoner is not going to suffer more than a few seconds on average, no more than a minute in the worst scenario. It's also pretty cheap. We're talking about execution, a grizzly affair altogether. Why not use the most efficient and readily available form of killing? Between injection and firing squad, I'd take firing squad.

>>760441

The literal city of Jerusalem.

>>760442

I've been saying this for years… normies don't care though. They'll support needles over any other method because "they're less barbaric", pat themselves on the back for being such a good person, and then go back to watching their normie TV shows. Meanwhile, Tyrone gets strapped to a chair and ends up screaming in severe pain for over an hour because the needle or dosage wasn't quite right. Most prisoners themselves prefer other methods, but to Hell with how they feel, because we're doing them a favor by choosing the method that looks the least scary in our minds, right? I wonder how many would still eat halal meat after seeing an animal be tied upside down and slowly bled while screaming… so long as it wasn't shot by one of those evil hunters I guess.

There wouldn't be abortion in the world without the Jews,according to E.Michael Jones.

>>760286

So when do we know to leave, and when do we know to stay and oppose it?

>>760470

Chinks exist too.

>>760476

Chinks killed their child after birth so not abortion.

>>760481

No it isn’t. Same reason Jihad isn’t legal. Religious freedom doesn’t mean you get to destroy life.

>>760478

Btfo

>>760273

Mark my words, the next step is going to be the legalization of post birth abortion, AKA, murder of babies that are already out of the womb.

We also need to stop using our enemies words. "abortion" is a deadly euphemism that hides the true nature of what it is, which is the MURDER OF BABIES.

>>760527

This, even back when I was a pro-life atheist I would argue this point and the only rebuttals would be "slippery slope!" or "Come to think of it, that's a good point." It's definitely going to happen.

>>760530

firing squad would be my choice. Split second, you dont feel it. You know, funny enough, there's some

line that is taught to troops just in case on leave for Afghanistan. I don't know what it is specifically, but it

roughly translate to "your mother is a dog". Then they just shoot you instead of tortute.

>>760530

Inert asphyxiation would be #1, since the body only registers choking/asphyxiation by buildup of carbon dioxide and not actually be LACK of oxygen. It's the reason people can die from carbon monoxide poisoning without signs of a struggle.

I guess anything that destroys the brain outright would follow that, then things that remove the brain from the body, then firing squad.

>>760531

>"slippery slope!"

Its not a fallacy, its a fact. One just needs to look at where we are now.

First we tolerated fags, then we stopped describing their "lifestyle" as a mental illness, then we let them "marry", then we let them adopt, and now its illegal to say anything against them, and they persecute us.

First we tolerated fags, now we tolerate transgenders, next it will be pedophiles, and its already on its way.

First we let women murder their babies when they were conceived, with the morning after pill, then we let them murder their babies until a certain number of weeks, and now this. The next step is logically the murder of babies outside their wombs.

>But m-m-muh slippery slope

No one kills a frog by throwing it in a boilling pot, you put him a normal pot and then slowly raise the temperature until he is killed.

>"Come to think of it, that's a good point."

And thus the pro-abortion activists reveal their true selves and their true motives, they want to murder kids.

>>760452

Is that really how halal meat is made?

>>760530

>Humans are bastards, we don't need some omnipotent jewish conspiracy to trigger man's inhumanity.

I guess Jones meant the legalisation of aborting.

Women don't need a piece of paper to be whores.

I won't be weeping for the next 911 type of event. New York deserves whatever is coming. You chose this.

Tbh, all of us do.

>>760273

You're not a human until you're born. Stop wining silly Xian, it's not murder.

>>760583

>You're not a human until you're born. Stop wining silly Xian, it's not murder.

Is this a parody post? Almost seems authentic.

>>760543

Among other methods, yes. Look up halal slaughter on YouTube or LiveLeak… they intentionally keep the animal alive while bleeding it.

>>760577

Agreed.

>>760577

You damned kike. You absolute snake. You cannot justify the deaths of thousands, most of whom were innocent, including children. You bloody baby-sucking like. Desert jackal.

>>760531

Christians point out that Kermit Gosnell is serving life without parole (after striking a deal to avoid execution) for killing born alive infants by cutting their spinal cords with scissors, a less painful death on less well developed babies. People whose souls haven't been crusted over by evil think this is a good justification for ending this awful practice, but more and more respond by stating things like "Why is he in prison again?"

>>760452

Modern society classifies as barbaric not things that are actually cruel, but things that are uncomfortable to watch. If you doubt me, ask why we don't just give drug offenders a public lashing or time in the stocks, then ask yourself if you'd rather be beaten half to death and then go back to work or spending several months locked in a box with criminals.

This is just so hard any more. I've been speaking against abortion since I was old enough to understand what it is, but people out there worship abortion to the point that I think many would cut a deal to eliminate women's suffrage before they would agree to make it illegal to murder children.

>>760301

ZOG doesn't have the decency to let a man die on his feet as he blasts one last cig

Holy —- it's real, even msm is reporting on it as abortion until birth. What have we become, we are Carthage! This is murder, outright murder!

https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-usa/2019/01/13/pro-lifers-n-y-abortion-bill-could-one-day-make-being-pro-life-a-crime/?fbclid=IwAR2tn3IaQkS5cHAVutrpmR2J1LCbNf7LwnX2FoyCzlioFK84pYvXNvFHrXE

Now Chris Cuomo is running victory lap by having a bunch of structures lit up in pink to celebrate the passing of this abomination.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-directs-one-world-trade-center-and-other-landmarks-be-lit-pink-celebrate-signing

>>760555

>Women don't need a piece of paper to be whores.

Or men to encourage or abandon them.

One of the earliest patristic quotes talks about men that have a part in it as being equally guilty.

>>760901

Yes no doubt.

>>760806

If NYC and California sank into the sea, it would be.

>>760917

I'm not sure what's worse … anime larpers or people who post fake tweets.

>>760948

kek

Seems related, no?

https:// 8ch.net/pol/res/12713069.html

>>760948

In (limited) defense of the other pic, those were supposed to be reflective marks, not stains. I guess it was implying her dress is made of a more synthetic fabric (which would make sense if it's a maternity dress).

Pro-choice people are now claiming that this new late term law only applies to babies that are certain not to survive. I don't know if that's true, because I couldn't find it anywhere. Yet they ignore the fact that either way late-term the baby will be delivered, or the fact that protections for babies born alive have been repealed. They also criticize the pro-life for reading supposed clickbait articles and daring to oppose murder, as if the leftist media isn't blatantly biased.

>step 1

Can we stop with the disturbing mental imagery strategy? Everybody winnie knows already. It hasn't gained an inch of ground in decades it just shoves neutrals off the fence against us. Aside from that it's also uncharitable towards women who regret their abortions and work for the cause of life now.

New York is openly satanic, already was for a long time, and talk means nothing.

>>761935

"only applies"

That's the ever-present catch.

"This won't be used FREELY, it will be RESTRICTED by all kinds of rules and regulations!"

Every single time there's a mass slaughter, that's how people speak the guarantee that there won't be one.

>>762398

No I did not. I saw a headline. I responded.

To be fair, that was some serious murdoch press-tier sensationalist headline-making

>>762626

Yeah I wouldn't want some scumbag to get away with murdering a relative.

But to be honest I have recently pondered the possibility that it could perhaps be more effective to treat crimes of passion and crimes of opportunity along with mere malice differently.

With crimes of passion people could be committed to a different kind of institution, while still a secure one, functioning more as an actual rehabilitative mental institute in which the convicted could be more easily released after 15-20 years if their rehabilitation is deemed to have been successful.

Of course the metrics for evaluating such a thing would be likley to not be without much controversy, along without potential for individuals to pursue a deceptive plea to such in court. For current governments it's just easier to treat it as a thing to be budgeted making cuts to government institutions when desired and even resolving to the release of inmates due to overcrowding and inhumane conditions.

Rather than actually provide something to adequately satisfy the needs of society though, it appears to be easier to just wield the threat of incarceration along with incompetent authorities to the convenience of those with more power and wealth.

For a solution from a religious perspective as you propose, I think forcing them to take a vow of penance and pursuing a life of pious devotion while being incarcerated, on pain of excommunication and subsequent annulment of any clemency, could be a feasible way to go about it.

>>760452

>>760586

>they intentionally keep the animal alive while bleeding it.

Gee, I don't know man, you'd think they wouldn't be "bleeding" the animal if it were dead.

>But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Halal slaughter is actually similar to the way prescribed by the Bible and is probably a more humane method short of modern implementations. Say what you want about Muslims and Islam but no need to libel things dishonestly. I wonder if God fearing peasants in places like medieval Czechoslovakia could be held to such a standard.

>>762626

>some /pol/lacks just lust for the blood of the guilty

>justice is /pol/ now

Bloody (((Italians)))…