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>>757798

I haven't seen much with him except that interview with the producer of that doc 'the principle' that that one anon kept on poasting a couple of months back, but Wolfgang Smith is supposedly a brain box:

>Wolfgang Smith (born 1930) is a mathematician, physicist, philosopher of science, metaphysician, Roman Catholic and member of the Traditionalist School. He has written extensively in the field of differential geometry, as a critic of scientism and as a proponent of a new interpretation of quantum mechanics that draws heavily from medieval ontology and realism.

>>757798

Watched just over 2 minutes of it and it's nothing new. Everything he said is typical stuff I've heard before on /christian/. Now, I'm a Christian but he doesn't bring anything new to the table and I probably won't be following him. I think the best things that I read that discuss the question of evil and suffering, albeit not sufficiently, would be the two wisdom books of Ecclesiastes and job.

>>758035

Sure, how he expresses it is nice though. Check out the other vids too. Or read his books, quite interesting.

>>758016

invite him to this board.

Charles Coulombe is always interesting, even if you don't agree with a lot of what he says.

>>758035

> I think the best things that I read that discuss the question of evil and suffering, albeit not sufficiently, would be the two wisdom books of Ecclesiastes and job.

Because they were borne through real suffering and lifelong/extreme attempts at holiness. Not intellect.

You'll find similar wisdom in many saints btw (not the scholar saints necessarily. You'll have to use your discernment here.).

>>757997

>>758016

Thanks, will check them out.

Here is another interesting big IQ thinker.

Bump

I dont like this Swinburne guy tbh he says very little with too many words. Also there are new arguments for the soul based on the quantum function of the mind and restorative capacities that are a lot better than his arguments.

>>758653

KEK. Next someone will post Anderson.

>>758979

Absurd comparison. Listen to Dyer he knows way more theology, philosophy and politics than Anderson and their delivery is totally different.

>>758870

Souls are immaterial, they aren't a function of physical organs or atoms.

>>759048

True.

So do any of these guys have an argument beyond "there has to be a loving god with a plan or else existence is pure evil and I cant accept that" like winnie the pooh cs lewis.

>>761732

Belief in God is basic, it doesn't need an "argument", like we don't need arguments for believing other minds actually exist and we aren't trapped in solipsism. Solipsism is retarded, likewise all the implications of atheism are retarded. The worldview is incoherent and no one actually lives like an atheist except for mindless degenerates.

>>761732

Feser, and classical theism in general, does. I really recommend his books for arguments for God that are actually logical and precise. His Aquinas and Five Proofs are a good beginning.

>>758016

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>>761732

>or else existence is pure evil

>Because otherwise existenceis evil

That's not the argument you fagget, actually listen to their arguments before you criticise them

>>758165

>5:10 ish

saint paul's letter to the roman christians, chapter thirteen.

his points on fear were beyond weak. i don't think i have to point you to scripture on what to fear.

i don't know anything about coulombe, but if he's portraying christian beliefs, he's wrong on what i pointed out.

I like bishop Fulton Sheen. The guy is witty and manages to explain things to a wide audience without overexplaining things

https://thomism.wordpress.com/

>>764028

Sheen is awesome

t. Orthodox

>>766561

Yeah Sheen really helped me a lot. He was such a great speaker and he existed in just the right time when Catholic orthodoxy could still be voiced in public, while recognizing the storm lurking on the horizon. He's a great guide for being a Catholic in modern times, and the way he talks about things without needing to walk on eggshells because of PC culture is a breath of fresh air.

>>766606

>>766561

Sheen was very pro-ecunemical though, he praised Vatican II and liked to quote Protestant writers at times.

If anything, Sheen is an example of how you can be loyal to the Church and still hope for the unity of all Christians.