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HRE Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:21:30 5593b2 No.755550

Do you consider the Holy Roman Empire to be Roman?

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:23:48 b85a54 No.755551

>>755550

They were Greeks LARPing as Romans.

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:26:34 5593b2 No.755552

>>755551

Are you sure? I thought they were Germans

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:27:25 3df08e No.755553

>>755552

They were in the end, but they were't Roman then.

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:31:55 5593b2 No.755554

>>755553

>Mind

>Blown

But weren't the Romans the ones who were LARPing as Greeks originally?

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:31:56 b85a54 No.755555

>>755552

I actually just got them confused with the Byzantine Empire. Now I must do the walk of shame.

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 14:32:48 5593b2 No.755556

>>755555

Your get is a sign that you're forgiven

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 15:05:00 e5378b No.755559

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>>755550

LARPers at best, they wanted to be the 'spiritual' successors to Rome.

>>755554

Romans had a long-lasting tradition to take over anything they liked about others and Romanize it.

They did it with the gladius from teh Iberian tribes, their iconic scutum shield from the other Italian tribes, chainmail from Etruscans and Gauls, Greek culture and pantheon, eventually also other pantheons, wore socks and trousers when campaigning in the north, hired skilled cavalry and other mercenaries from local populations etc.

>>755555 (checked)

Quints in 5, wew.

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 17:34:08 a5607d No.755593

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>>755550

>Rome is conquered by Ostrogoths

>Ostrogoths are conquered by Franks

>HRE grows out of Franks

>Pope himself crowns every HRE ruler as the Holy Roman Emporer

<dude they weren't even real Romans lmao

<but Russia as the successor to Rome makes perfect sense btw

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 18:33:49 18250d No.755611

>>755550

At first yeah, but then the false prophet Martin Luther rose up and started an entirely new Germanic religion unrelated to Christianity which formed in the Roman empire.

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 20:12:57 e22c06 No.755634

>>755611

Weird way of spelling John Calvin but ok.

Also to answer op, their claim is as valid as Byzantium or Moscow, since the pope (who was the ecumenical patriarch presplit) gave them their title like he did with the others

Christanon 01/13/19 (Sun) 21:07:41 5593b2 No.755655

>>755634

Byzantines never claimed anything tho. They were Romans, their fathers were Romans, grandfathers were Romans, their ancestors as a whole were Romans and the whole world was calling them Romans (see Quran - Al Rum)

The Christians in the middle east are still called Rums, by themselves as well as by the muslims and Jews. This is an undisputed fact.

Germans on the other side were Germans, the ones who sacked the western part of Rome. If we agree that they were Romans then we must also agree that every Turk or Arab who lives in Europe today is European.

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 02:23:22 910fcd No.755769

>>755550

they're both roman in a way

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 04:08:57 4fe8de No.755820

reminder that all baptized christians are roman citizens

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 05:25:22 be7c54 No.755860

>>755820

Cool, where can I collect my CaesarBucks?

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 05:29:29 be7c54 No.755861

Also, obligatory

>

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 06:20:41 88bece No.755883

>>755550

No. It was primarily German but started as a French thing before there really were "french" things

>>755551

wut?

>>755555

quints of copious forgiveness

>>755861

wut?

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 08:35:15 df9eda No.755926

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>>755593

>Not proclaiming Finland as the true successor of Rome

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 11:09:56 5593b2 No.755948

Also can someone redpill me on the Pseudo-Isidorian decretals and the "Donation of Constantine"? Why would some Germans need to create false documents to prove that they are Roman (together with some other made up church laws and canons)?

>>755883

French (Franks) were Germans too.

Christanon 01/14/19 (Mon) 14:08:50 9d6057 No.755990

>>755861

>voltaire

into the trash it goes

Christanon 01/15/19 (Tue) 05:24:47 ee95bf No.756223

> Holy

>> Roman

>>> Empire