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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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3043a5  No.751309

>As God, Jesus has no mother, only a Father

Now that Sam Shamoun accepted and evangelized the apostolic teaching of the Christotokos, are you guys going to add him to the great book of grudges?

b01fb0  No.751369

The scriptures clearly say "The Word was made flesh." There were not two "Jesuses".

Elizabeth and John also leapt for joy, and Elizabeth called Mary "Mother of my Lord." If Lord isn't God, then what kind of Lord then? The only one that denies it was some other kind of "lord" is the real heretic. The oldest of heretics.

And the prophecy of Isaiah always said it is "God with us."


3043a5  No.751372

>>751369

So you, along with the rest of your sect, believe in a quadrinity of God?


b01fb0  No.751376

>>751372

It was this so called "sect" that first taught the Trinity to begin with. You wouldn't know a thing without it's creeds, councils, or canons. Now you want to define it by things it never believed?

All Mary does is point back to her Son. She isn't divine herself.


3043a5  No.751379

>>751376

>It was this so called "sect" that first taught the Trinity to begin with

Lol. No one expect your sect believes that, expectually after learning about the pseudo isidorian decretals, the ascetic/monastic movement, the almost universal Alexandrian interpretation of the bible nearly after two centuries of the apostles, the Carpocratian "honuoring" of imagines, and much more.

>She isn't divine herself.

Yet that is what title Theotokos demands because God is eternal, thus for her to be eternal she must be God and since there's only one god, she would have to be a member of the godhood. Which is blasphemous.

Please stop and return to the true church that Roma has abandon long ago.


ba163e  No.751383

>>751369

Lord can literally just mean master. Other people in the bible are called Lord


cd6cfe  No.751387

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>>751379

What exactly is your claim?

State your issue if you want to have a debate.


3043a5  No.751392

>>751387

Christian claim that: as God, Jesus has no mother, only a Father.


3ce737  No.751394

>>751379

Mary isn't eternal, she is created by God while still being the mother of God because Jesus is God and Mary is the mother of Jesus


ef69f5  No.751395

>>751392

Why, exactly, doesn't Mary count?


cd6cfe  No.751402

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>>751392

What is Y O U R claim you dumb tigger?

The Orthodox position is that: Jesus is God, Mary gave birth to Jesus, so Mary is Theotokos…the Christ bearer

Now what is YOUR issue?

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ef69f5  No.751404

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>>751402

>Camping with 2 bible quotes and a argument for when OP replies

>Suddenly this reply slides in

Do us a favor and don't come back


cd6cfe  No.751411

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>>751404

Both of us are sitting in a thread with a muslim who wont state what their actual position is…because they don't have one. They aren't here to argue in good faith and wont lay the groundwork necessary for an actual debate.

If you intend to argue with with sophists you will have to force them to explain themselves FIRST. Save your lectures and stern meme faces who for women, they don't work here.


ef69f5  No.751414

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>>751411

>Save your lectures and stern meme faces who for women, they don't work here.

>Someone who doesn't belong here talking about what works here

Where's the mod anyways? Even if you're talking to a muslim you can't breach rule 2.


cd6cfe  No.751416

>>751414

1.I asked the other anon what "his" position was.

2.He responded with something that is not his position and a non-christian position.

He is being fallacious, and I called him out.

Thats it. Im trying to force him to commit to something, anything at all. And you step in like mother-goose. Stop sidetracking this.


ef69f5  No.751419

>>751416

>He responded with something that is not his position

But that is his position


b01fb0  No.751426

>>751383

>Lord can literally just mean master. Other people in the bible are called Lord

Then she called a baby in the womb her master, even when she was already acquainted with the miracle of John's conception, which was amazing on it's own. She's putting Mary's child in a whole other category. And rightfully so. Only an idiot would think a virgin birth was a mere "prophet" or Lord.


b01fb0  No.751427

The doctrine of Theotokos isn't about Mary. It's about Jesus. And every heretic will immediately out themselves because of it. Because they eventually deny the divinity of Christ by doing it. It has nothing to do with Mary.


ff2d64  No.751436


7b8f7c  No.751445

Was God born on earth?

Yes.

Who bore him?

Mary.

Mary is the mother of God, in the sense of giving birth to God's earthly incarnation. Not in the sense of "creation ex nihilo", simple.

Protestants have no reason to reject the "theotokos" title.


f0488d  No.751466

Nestorianism the thread.


592993  No.751473

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>>751379

>assumes limits to God's power

>implies understanding of God's ways


2dd7ce  No.751481

>>751466

Don't say the N-word


c9d06b  No.751526

>>751309

Serious question, how come that lots of American protestants are becoming more and more N*storian in doctrine?


e4a0c0  No.751596

>t. Nestorius

>>751526

Christ is the perfect balance between eternal and temporal, God and Man, Church and State, Nature and Law, etc. Our entire political system and way of life is based on the opposition of the two. These people are trapped on the world and can't get out, through no fault of their own. Pray for them to stop hurting themselves.




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