==Cops blame Satan for spike in homicides...==''THESE MURDERS HAVE BEEN DONE BY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM GOD AND EMBRACED SATAN. WE MAY HAVE NOT MEANT TO DO SO BUT, WE HAVE. IT IS TIME TO ASK FOR GOD’S HELP TO

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Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 20:47:20 0b5832 No.744519

Cops blame Satan for spike in homicides…

THESE MURDERS HAVE BEEN DONE BY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM GOD AND EMBRACED SATAN. WE MAY HAVE NOT MEANT TO DO SO BUT, WE HAVE. IT IS TIME TO ASK FOR GOD’S HELP TO STOP THIS.

http://archive.today/2018.12.20-200313/https://www.al.com/news/2018/12/alabama-police-department-blames-satan-for-spike-in-homicides.html

A rural Alabama police department that used social media to scold community members for rejecting God is coming under fire from a group that opposes mixing government and religious faith. A statement posted on Facebook by the Opp Police Department on Tuesday blames a spike in area homicides on the idea that young people have turned away from God and "embraced Satan." The post followed two gunshot killings in as many days in Covington County, located on the Alabama-Florida line. But the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation says police in the town of 6,500 people are wrongly promoting religion with the social media message. The group says it's illegal for a government entity to endorse or criticize religious belief. Opp police didn’t immediately return a phone call Thursday seeking comment.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 20:52:04 f92e84 No.744520

Those are some cute doggos in that image.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:09:36 c3f849 No.744526

>is coming under fire from a group that opposes mixing government and religious faith.

Disappointing but not surprising.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:17:57 d90b77 No.744529

>>744526

"Freedom From Religion Foundation" is the antithesis of government secularism in the American sense, they want state involvement to remove any semblance of religion (especially Christianity)

"Separation of church and state" was established to prevent govt. meddling in church affairs

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:28:28 c3f849 No.744530

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>>744529

Honestly I'm getting tired of you. I know its you who's doing this. For a few months now you've made as many lies as you can to support your position.

If I remember well, you've made MULTIPLE arguments promoting the separation of church and state and you were wrong in all of them:

>If we didn't have separation of church and state, then

<Actually, the first muslim caliphs being converted in Europe are mostly in Atheistic countries or those that separated form the Church, such as France(female politicians made to wear hijabs before talking to Muslims), or Sweden and UK(Massive Muslim immigration, though admittedly not all demand Muslims laws).

>(Silence)

>If we didn't have separation of church and state, then the state would be allowed to oppress Christians freely. Not allowing religion in the state stops oppression!

<Actually, the State can still indirectly oppress Christians by forcing down laws against "homophobia" or others, and those laws will just happen to make stout Christians suffer.

>(Silence, new thread)

>Separation of church and state was established to prevent govt. meddling in church affairs!

I'm going to save my time since I realize now that you have no intent of turning whatesover.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:34:52 c3f849 No.744532

>>744530

>If we didn't have separation of church and state, then

Ahem, incomplete. Here's what I meant to write.

>If we didn't have separation of church and state, then Muslims and Jews would be able to run to control the state too! Separation of church and state stops that.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:35:32 d90b77 No.744533

>>744530

I've never had that conversation, but my claim here on the intent of govt secularism (establishment clause of the 1st amendment) in the US is easily verifiable

Here's Jefferson himself coining the phrase

>Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:35:51 d90b77 No.744535

>>744533

https://usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 21:55:24 c3f849 No.744539

>>744533

>I've never had that conversation

Oh.

Well, this is a anonymous Imageboard, so I'll take your word as true.

>the intent of govt secularism (establishment clause of the 1st amendment) in the US is easily verifiable

The public claims which they made are easily verifiable, and indeed I believe they are what you're sharing with me.

I'm not sure if he was telling the truth however, and most importantly I personally don't believe it matters since either way the end results have not been as helpful(See: Pink text on >>744530 still covers real life situations, such as the state being able to pass laws promoting homosexuality and the church only being allowed to watch it happen)

Whatever the state can to do the Church is limited by God's Protection, not even killing Priests can really stop Christianity.

What the Church can order the state to do, on other hand, seems to be of paramount importance.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 22:06:19 d90b77 No.744544

>>744539

These situations you're describing are unrelated to the question of the establishment clause. Anti-sodomy laws remained and were enforced in the US at all levels until the late 20th century, in your view this should have been an impossibility.

>Whatever the state can to do the Church is limited by God's Protection, not even killing Priests can really stop Christianity.

In the US it's restricted by law. Under theocratic tyrants of Europe my ancestors were persecuted.

>What the Church can order the state to do, on other hand, seems to be of paramount importance.

You're stuck on the atheistic false notion of "separation" meaning theology can't influence legislation. Churches have since the beginning done all they can to influence lawmakers, there is no prohibition.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 22:19:20 8b7ee2 No.744547

A secular state is inevitably an atheist one, or soon to be. The decay of religious life in the west is merely the consequence of the atheist ideal of secularism. The American founding fathers were wrong, simply put.

Christanon 12/20/18 (Thu) 22:21:43 d90b77 No.744548

>>744547

Why did the second great awakening happen under secular government?

Christanon 12/21/18 (Fri) 02:21:42 dcbab9 No.744673

>>744530

>>744539

>(silence)