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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a1f266  No.743701

What do you guys think of postmodernism applied Christianity, even since I saw through the strawman arguments put forward by people online about postmodern philosophy I took some time to read the source materials myself, and lately I've come across some postmodern theology literature aspired by Heidegger, most notably JL Marion's compilation of essays

tl;dr: it takes a more radical approach than what Kierkegaard sought to achieve, while the latter tried to detach faith from reason, seeing God as an entity that is outside the realm of our reasoning and all endeavors of trying to base faith around an objective existence of God are fruitless since it defeats the purpose of faith, Postmodern christian thought takes from Derrida's work in order to deconstruct the binary of faith/reason in itself, positing that reason and faith, and subsequentially objective reality and a transcendent one can only be understood in reference to each other, and that such a binary only undermines itself, asserting that a full appreciation of the physical world is only possible through a belief in transcendence.

I would really like some further reading recommendations, I asked in /lit/ but sadly my thread got derailed by Jordan Peterson posters

dbad6f  No.743711

I would recommend you read the writings of St. Edith Stein. She was a student of Husserl and most of her later work was in bridging the divide between modern phenomenology and classical thomism. She's much better known because she was martyred during WWII because she was an ethnic jew, but I know her works are respected in both catholic and secular circles so you should check her out.

Also it's worth noting that faith and reason have never been considered a binary in classical thomism or really any classical christian philosophy afaik. The cleaving of the two is only an enlightenment phenomenon, and as such arose purely out of a context of antagonism to Christianity. To think that the theology or philosophy of the middle ages sacrificed faith for reason or vice versa would be absurd.

Also Kierkegaard's definition of faith was pure invention and his butchered understanding of the binding of Isaac is likely one of the reasons a butchered understanding of it is used as a strawman to beat christians over the head with. Isaac was a child of a grand national prophecy born to two centenarians; if he didn't know the stakes and didn't have faith that he would live to bear children another day then he could and would have just walked away. There is no moral absolute to be transcended if the essence of the sin is assured to be absent by essence himself. Fear and trembling my braying ass.


efcb06  No.743713

>>743701

>>743711

>Poohing DERRIDA

>Poohing HUSSERL

>modern phenomenology

Shouldn't you two be eating avocado brunch?


862967  No.743720

>>743713

Idk is avacado even a meal? I could for a a buffet w/ mimosas at rn, at midnight before a final, if that's what you mean.


f229d9  No.744248


f229d9  No.744249

>>744248

Is postmodernism even compatible with religion? I thought they rejected "meta-narratives" and objective morals




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