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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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77736d  No.741433

Why are there many different Lutheran denominations in America? Technically speaking, is it correct to say that Lutheranism is undergoing a schism?

a9c6b2  No.741436

it's a natural consequence of protestantism itself, protestantism has been splintering from the beginning


a080a4  No.741443

Sweds would arrive and bring Swedish Lutheranism. Germans would arrive and bring German Lutheranism. You can’t say there has been a schism when none of these denomations been together in the first place.


e6ac5c  No.741445

Denominational splits usually happen over politics and leadership decisions before proper theology

It's my understanding that these are for political reasons, that carry into theology. The ELCA was dominant but has become the faggotest mainline denomination in the US

ELDoNA is another orthodox one worth reading on

>>741436

You're right even though you intended to be pejorative

One of the greatest strengths of the reformation is the rejection of the notion that you need to be affiliated with a certain human institution to be saved, especially when that institution preaches a false gospel


5ef4a1  No.741452

>>741433

Yes, every separate denomination is a result of a separate schism. All this can be traced back to the original schismatics, the Roman Catholics


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3fdf1a  No.741522

It's more or less been in schism since our own "modernist-fundamentalist" controversy that started in the early 20th century and really culminated in the 1970s. So a schism in American lutheranism already happened.

Basically you have two types of lutheran bodies in America, conservative (confessional) synods and liberal (non confessional) synods. The former believes in the lutheran confessions where the latter believes they are "still up for interpretation" which is just modernism (our teachings can change with time).

ELCA is the biggest one and is liberal and pozzed. like 99.9% of the time when you see "lutherans" doing dumb things in the media it is them.

LCMS and WELS are pretty solid, there are only a few minor differences in things like church governance but they are both historically "lutheran" in their theology.

Alot of the synods aren't even in theological disagreement, but are only separated by cultural history, like ELS is a Norwegian immigrant synod, There is a Tennessee synod as well.

Most of them are in communion with each other.

t. LCMS member


bb9288  No.741524

There's only two actual Luthern denominations in America, the evangelical group and the high church group.

Both are pretty much dying in membership attendance anyways.


a080a4  No.741532

>>741524

Most churches are having a membership crisis. From mainline Protestant to Roman Catholics, even the orthodox churches are about to see a crisis.


e94f61  No.741552

>>741445

Bless you for saying what needed to be said




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