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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

File: e4fc4d746a6e7ae⋯.jpg (1.33 MB, 2400x3104, 75:97, John_Henry_Newman_by_Sir_J….jpg)

d72747  No.734463

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/11/28/second-newman-miracle-confirmed/

IT'S HAPPENING

SAINT JOHN HENRY NEWMAN

Everyone should read Newman, by the way.

f5356f  No.734488

Saint Newman, pray for us.


f06728  No.734532


c5a6ca  No.734535

>>734463

>Everyone should read Newman, by the way.

No thanks


4b8353  No.734594

FINALLY.


4b8353  No.734595

>>734532

I don't get it anon.

The Church hates liberalism.


3948f6  No.734596

Brainlet here. Who is this Newman. What miracles has he done?


302294  No.734599

>>734596

OP's post contains a link to one.


e14937  No.734604

File: bf2f9fb9ea3590d⋯.jpeg (38.42 KB, 850x400, 17:8, 2F55385AC8B8438A967673890….jpeg)

>>734596

Newman was an Anglican theologian that started reading the church fathers. He made a movement trying to make Anglicanism more close to Catholicism but eventually he along with othera converted to Catholicism during the so called Catholic emancipation in the U.K.

He then was a very good apologist against the prots.


6e0dc0  No.734636

File: 7c5a8874c97d99c⋯.gif (34.97 KB, 174x240, 29:40, VLADIMIR_GUETTE.GIF)

>>734604

To be deeper in history is to cease to be Roman Catholic. The RCC was founded by Adrian I and raised by Gregory VII.


eefe93  No.734642

>>734636

Why shit up the thread man


f321ba  No.734644

File: 21ceee8a95e642a⋯.jpeg (47.35 KB, 324x315, 36:35, B0C691B1-C33D-4395-8FC5-9….jpeg)

>>734636

To be knowledgeable on history is to cease to be Modern Russian Orthodox. The Russian church died when Nikon made his reforms ;^) .


6e0dc0  No.734648

File: 475f40c34601a28⋯.jpg (56.78 KB, 500x548, 125:137, babushkot.jpg)

>>734644

Nikon did nothing wrong.


2a7dce  No.734657

>>734636

Now THIS is ortholarping!


d72747  No.734722

File: 395eba4e25af643⋯.jpg (19.13 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 42sVHBVM_400x400.jpg)

Literally everything Newman wrote is fantastic. Even the stuff he wrote when he was a Protestant is good. I think the best place to start with him are the sermons he preached at Oxford.

https://www.amazon.com/Fifteen-Sermons-Preached-University-Between/dp/0268009961/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1543612118&sr=8-5&keywords=john+henry+newman+sermons


bf75ad  No.734755

File: 498c4d652c4c32e⋯.png (231.78 KB, 634x348, 317:174, TOorCNR (1).png)

File: b28e783e3e517c2⋯.gif (218.9 KB, 1772x2250, 886:1125, KJV-Only-Chart.gif)

>>734644

To be esoterically woke in history is to cease using non-KJV Bibles. Other manuscript traditions were corrupted by the Roman Catholics through the centuries and the 47 translators of the KJV were expert scholars who used the Textus Receptus which is the only divinely inspired set of Greek texts based off of the divinely preserved Byzantine manuscript tradition. Amen.


654415  No.734756

>>734755

>reading the Kike Jew Version of the Bible

nice try Rabbi, you can keep your filthy Masoretic


bf75ad  No.734757

File: f0f4c7bbb47d356⋯.webm (628.95 KB, 632x718, 316:359, f0f4c7bbb47d3567e7c923ecb….webm)

>>734756

>implying the lxx wasnt written by kike filth who deliberately corrupted God's word in multiple places and added in their own fanfics


035f2a  No.734760

>>734757

>tfw even though I know you’re joking, KJVtards conveniently forget literally all Kabbalistic spells and invocations to summon demons come from the Masoretic text.


bf75ad  No.734761

>>734760

>implying the lxx doesn't encourage superstition and kabbalistic magic like in the book of tobit


035f2a  No.734765

File: 21662386475f7d6⋯.jpeg (132.42 KB, 750x423, 250:141, 38ADAA93-B747-469E-BB2D-2….jpeg)

>>734761

>implying Tobit using fish parts like an angel told him to is any different from the instances in pic related (taken from Catholic Answers forum)


bf75ad  No.734768

>>734765

>equating jesus's miracles with magic like the talmud does

Nice try Rabbi.


035f2a  No.734770

>>734768

Nowhere do I see child sacrifice and the use of magical incantations. Also the fact you think a rabbi would defend a book that has myriads of antetypes to Jesus Christ is laughable.


bf75ad  No.734772

>>734770

Your cover has been blown, Shlomo. Go home.


b118ed  No.734778

>>734772

I’ll leave, but I’m still not the one using the Jewish Cano and the Jewish version.


f321ba  No.734781

File: d75fef9d5eb7f1b⋯.jpeg (160.52 KB, 512x800, 16:25, 4919D0F5-7F36-4BD7-8F5F-C….jpeg)

>>734778

No on second thought I’ll just leave this here:


2e800e  No.734788

>>734636

>VLADIMIR_GUETTE

That's my boy.

Great man with great arguments.

t. catholic hoping for the re-union of the churches


c80d11  No.734888

>>734636

>>734788

Who is this Vladimir Guette? I can't find anything on him


0b47dd  No.734897

>>734781

I'll just leave this here:

>16 It was also determined that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in the Church under the title of divine Scriptures. The Canonical Scriptures are these: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two books of Paraleipomena, Job, the Psalter, five books of Solomon, the books of the twelve prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two Books of the Maccabees.

Council of Carthage 397AD

Vs

Protestant Canon circa 1520AD

I wonder who's right. The early Christians or a bunch of retards who follow the council of Jamnia.


2e800e  No.734900

>>734888

Wladimir Guettée (René François of it's original name) was a french theologian (mostly historian of the Church) who loved his church, the gallican (french) Church. And he believed in the autonomy it had (defended by people like Bossuet, defended by the immense majority). He left the catholic church when ultramontanism, with the jesuist, won with the proclamation of dogma of the infaillibility. Indeed, at his time, the gallicanism, defense of the local church, have been destroyed because of a political manipulation, the jesuits using the fight against jansenism as a pretext to impose the doctrinal autority (not ratified the gallican church) to France. He destroy it, showing it can't be a dogma since it have not been held everywhere everytime in the Church, using the definition of saint Vincent of Lerins (father of the Church). He use the Church fathers (including Gregory the great in his letters) against the primauty of juridiction of Rome. He also fight what can be considered prelest in the catholic church. Indeed, he is against the new dogma (cf saint Vincent of Lerins) of the immaculate conception of Mary. So, he says Lourdes can't be used to define a dogma since it is a private revelation, so the content of the revelation can't be sure 100%. He destroy the new concept of "living tradition" invented in this context, and theorised by the ultramontanists and omnipresent nowadays. Here is some things I have seen about him. That's quite an interesting figure.

Some link :

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Vladimir_(Guett%C3%A9e)

Here in french, if you speak it :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Guett%C3%A9e


242ae3  No.734907

>>734463

This is great.

Always loved this guy.

T. Orthodox


e3d3c0  No.735001

>>734463

Doctor of the church when?


ae11a8  No.736272

>>734532

Well that's rather more damning of Francis than I would venture, because as the article points out, Newman's liberalism was code for doctrinare secularism, not the quality of an open and unprejudiced mind which deserves the title of "liberal." If you want my two-cents it's that Francis thinks that he is liberal in the latter sense and is oblivious to liberalism as secularism.

He's a bit fuddled too when he criticized American libertarianism having mistook it entirely for some kind of Sadean libertinism.


335c89  No.736284

Wasnt he a catalyst for vat2?

Also pretty sure the formal saint process means nothing these days. Everyone gets canonised


9f5cc8  No.736315

>>736284

He was basically a crypto-modernist, or maybe a moderate modernist if such a term is meaningful.


91ae72  No.736323

>>734642

Why respond to valid criticism with namecalling man


88e0ab  No.736382

>>734755

nice wall of text. liberals can't do anything right


0c04ce  No.736403

>>734897

>Observe, further, that there are two and twenty books of the Old Testament, one for each letter of the Hebrew tongue. For there are twenty-two letters of which five are double, and so they come to be twenty-seven. For the letters Caph, Mere, Nun, Pe, Sade are double. And thus the number of the books in this way is twenty-two, but is found to be twenty-seven because of the double character of five. For Ruth is joined on to Judges, and the Hebrews count them one book: the first and second books of Kings are counted one: and so are the third and fourth books of Kings: and also the first and second of Paraleipomena: and the first and second of Esdra. In this way, then, the books are collected together in four Pentateuchs and two others remain over, to form thus the canonical books. Five of them are of the Law, viz. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. This which is the code of the Law, constitutes the first Pentateuch. Then comes another Pentateuch, the so-called Grapheia, or as they are called by some, the Hagiographa, which are the following: Jesus the Son of Nave, Judges along with Ruth, first and second Kings, which are one book, third and fourth Kings, which are one book, and the two books of the Paraleipomena which are one book. This is the second Pentateuch. The third Pentateuch is the books in verse, viz. Job, Psalms, Proverbs of Solomon, Ecclesiastes of Solomon and the Song of Songs of Solomon. The fourth Pentateuch is the Prophetical books, viz the twelve prophets constituting one book, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel. Then come the two books of Esdra made into one, and Esther.

> There are also the Panaretus, that is the Wisdom of Solomon, and the Wisdom of Jesus, which was published in Hebrew by the father of Sirach, and afterwards translated into Greek by his grandson, Jesus, the Son of Sirach. These are virtuous and noble, but are not counted nor were they placed in the ark.

- St. John of Damascus, Exposition of the Orthodox Faith: Book 4 Chapter 17


62cb05  No.736488

>>736315

Absolute nonsense


9f5cc8  No.736637

>>736488

He tried to undermine the Syllabus Errorum and was slightly opposed to Pius IX generally.


62cb05  No.736667

>>736637

Saints often disagree with each other, often bitterly. St. Hippolytus and several Popes of Rome, so far as to be schismatic, but was reconciled to the Church before his death; Pope St. Stephen and St. Cyprian disagreed on the subject of baptism, though they’re both Saints. In the end, Newman was made a Cardinal by that saintly Pope, Leo XIII, died in good standing with the Church, and was endorsed by the Bishop of Limerick and Pope St. Pius X. All this despite his disagreements with Pope Bl. Pius IX.

It is worth noting that he agreed that the Errors listed in Syllabus Errorum were errors; and that it ‘is to be received with profound submission, as having been sent by the Pope's authority to the Bishops of the world.’ (Letter to the Duke of Norfolk)


f5356f  No.736689

>>736667

the mark of a true Saint is obedience, I wish others would understand this


e6dcb6  No.736736

>>734755

>chart doesn't have a big fat line from douay-rheims to kjv (through an intermediary or two, yes)

trash post


793a07  No.736762

>>736689

I wish the faithful would understand it mostly.




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