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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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752697  No.732971

I'm doing a report on homosexuality and the Church, I've tried to find a few good scholarly sources, but everything I'm finding through (((Google))) are all advocating for it to be accepted. Any good books that I should absolutely use?

66061d  No.732978

Look up Bella Dodd


e53ae2  No.732979

File: 251523942ed8461⋯.jpg (720.55 KB, 1671x2560, 1671:2560, 916xf tBbOL.jpg)

>>732971

The Homosexual Network: Private Lives and Public Policy by Enrique T. Rueda


4db02f  No.732990

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752697  No.733292

>>732978

Seems like her only work was against communism, and not particularly towards the gays.


b51fc4  No.733298

>>732990

lol, ok Saved. Just because i like my Fallout references. Especially ones that revolve around probably the best Modern fallout game to day. Literally you'd have to go back. To probably older fallout1 or 2, to find a better story from what i've heard.


387aca  No.733299

>>732971

I'm a fag, if you got questions, ask away.


082980  No.733383

>>732971

vigano


082980  No.733384

>>733299

why do you hate God?


d6b98e  No.733675

>>733384

I don't. Anything else?


579920  No.733708

Vigano.

Also Church Millitant on youtube has a LOT of videos about the subject.


96a0c0  No.733723

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/12/gay-clergy-catholic-church-vatican/amp

Utterly shit source, I know, but it shows just how far V2 took the Catholic church from her roots and how Satan can slip in anywhere there is a crack in faith.


9e3219  No.733726

>>732971

>homosexuality

Ah, this board's favorite topic.


96a0c0  No.733727

>>733726

It’s something a lot of us struggle with. Instead of being snide, please pray that we all will overcome this.


8327e1  No.733804

>>733675

Do you love God, or your desires more?


881d08  No.734767

Why does God make people gay?


6ebe4e  No.734769

>>734767

he doesn't


4fa8b4  No.734785

>>734767

God doesn't make people sodomites, satan does.


1b22da  No.734854

>>734769

>>734785

If God doesn’t make people gay, but they become gay through abuse, then why would God punish them?


9841fc  No.734858

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>>734854

Every gay has chosen to be that way

You're right that it would be unjust to be damned for a circumstance out of ones hands


20eaa4  No.734946

>>733804

I don't like my desires at all. They have a tendency to make me fat and weak.

Desires are bad because they slowly erode your self-control.

>>734858

>Every gay has chosen to be that way

>Literally quotes a verse that says that God made them that way.


48fb2b  No.734953

File: 05186cfb58c6a9b⋯.png (1.45 MB, 750x1334, 375:667, B38F1358-28D9-4D20-B535-C6….png)

Did you mean homosexuals within the church? Catholics are the only ones you will find writing about that because they were having such a problem with it right now. See the attached image. That fellow has also written some excellent articles recently that you can fine by searching his name for news articles. There is also a good amount of research done in the last 15 years that indicate that 80% of the abuse victims in the Catholic Church are teenage males, that points to a homo issue instead of anpedo one. Let me know if you have a more specific information request. I could likely help.


9841fc  No.734988

>>734946

Exactly the opposite. The quotation says God was keeping them from becoming reprobate, but eventually just lets them


387aca  No.735096

>>734988

So you are basically saying that we are all gay but God sustains heterosexuality within us until we behave ourselves?

So how come there are incredibly evil heterosexuals?


7dcf5a  No.735143

>>735096

No. The normal man is non-homo, but any individual man can choose to become a reprobate and God will reluctantly allow it

just read the text again


2a9f69  No.735260

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>>735096

>So you are basically saying that we are all gay but God sustains heterosexuality within us until we behave ourselves?

No. The text means that God wants you to not be a sodomite, but if you chose to live the life of a sinner and make no effort to come back to God, He hardens your heart and allows you to prolapse your anus and condem yourself to hell.

>So how come there are incredibly evil heterosexuals?

>Who God allow bad things to happen?


c19c41  No.735297

>>732971

Steve Bruce on the catholic church


91a465  No.735792

File: 94ba1623b024cc7⋯.png (572.64 KB, 1506x3976, 753:1988, 1537484956085.png)

Hopefully this is of any help.


881d08  No.735932

If no one is born gay, then all of them somehow were at one time "infected", perhaps by sexual abuse.

If that is the case, how could God punish them for being homosexuals if all of them are simply victims of abuse?


3e7138  No.735936

>>735932

>how could God punish them for being homosexuals

They are punishing themselves because they feel unworthy. They feel unworthy because they were tainted by abuse. The real curse is self-hatred. It tells them that this happened to them because they deserved it. It is a cruel, evil lie that only Jesus can help dispel. But you have to ask Jesus to help you, and pray to him for his grace and mercy. He will help. Maybe not the way we expect him to, but he always does.


9f27ff  No.735937

>>735932

God hates the sin, not the sinner. Anyone who has committed homosexual acts can repent and stay celibate, which is also applicable to any other mortal sexual deviancy. Christ died for all sinners, it's on them if they do not repent.




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