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This is something I noticed amongst many of them. I have a Syriac friend who says the Bible is only a myth and she's just a Christian cos muh heritage.

It's a prevalent theme in post V2 Catholicism, spreading her Americanism globally, and I don't want to get banned but this just doesn't happen in Orthodoxy.

>>723879

>post V2 Catholicism

>sedevacantist blames his usual boogie-man

>uh, no, he's a Russian orthbro blaming the murkins for all the world's troubles again

Liberalism has been around since the year dot, fam, because people have always wanted out of the commitment they were born into. They never chose it, so it's not real to them. So, they are easily mislead and easily corrupted by the devil to bring shame upon the people of God. The biggest mistake the Church made was in failing to adhere to Paul's wisdom on Church discipline.

Stop blaming your boogie-mans and start looking at yourselves.

>>723813

Maronites sided with NATO during the wars of the 80's.

A documentary I saw from shortly before the current Syrian Civil War showed a portrait of Assad inside of a church for what it's worth.

>>723905

>Maronites sided with

What, against the Soviet-sponsored socialist islamist states. Oh, what a crime.

>… showed a portrait of Assad inside of a church for what it's worth.

because they know Assad is the only thing holding back the islamists from taking power

None of this is liberalism

>>723909

But JEWTO promotes liberalism, thus the possible reason for greater degeneracy compared to their non-JEWTO aligned counterparts.

Just a logical and rational observation in my opinion.

As far as Im aware it's just a middle eastern thing to cling to religion without actually following it. My friend is from Egypt and he said as soon as ramadan is over most muslims will get straight into a six pack.

Im starting to think that no matter how religious a society is generally a certain percentage (around 5-10%) will be genuinly religious and the rest will just go along with whatever is popular

>>723919

Oh well, it's probably just a demonstration of the perpetual mortal reality, that it's difficult to adhere entirely to the ethics of a mostly imperceptible entity all the time and is probably a wonder if it is adhered to at all.

>>723813

What, only Christians? I don't believe you.

>>723924

I know a Maronite girl who sleeps with ten men per week, had more than twenty abortions.

>>723928

She's most likely Maronite by name. I know plenty of "Maronite" girls who are Maronite only because of heritage. They don't follow Scripture, they don't follow the paths of the Saints, and they're extremely liberal. This mostly happens if they were born outside of Lebanon. If they were born here, and were raised with the Lebanese way of life, you most likely wouldn't see that filth happening.

>>723933

Yep it's the nature of the perpetual conflict in the world.

When sides keep being driven to fight eachother.

>I was listening to Maronite chant by coincidence when I found this thread

Honestly though, this doesn’t surprise me. Just remember that for every sodomite who wears a Rosary out of habit, there’s 10 or even 1000 that actually devoutly keep the faith of their ancestors and don’t give in to v2 bullcrap https://youtu.be/BUbKFiZ-ZyU

>>723813

> Two men wearing thongs were literally wearing rosaries as they danced promiscuously.

Catholics are homosexual:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gay-catholic-inside-the-seminary-closet/

>I thought Middle Eastern Christians are supposed to be based. What happened?

They went into communion with Rome.

>>723957

Sister Marie Keyrouz is a talent. Her work is really good.

Guys I would just like to tell you that the sodomites that wear rosaries and dance in their sodomite parades really do not represent the bulk of the Maronite community. They are a veeeeery small minority. These are city dwellers, which have fallen into the trap that is liberalism. To truly see the Maronite community, all you have to do is leave Beirut, and go to any district besides it. Go to the churches on Sunday, and you will see them filled (more or less, of course) with devout worshipers. Please do not get this bad image of us.

>>723961

I'm Orthodox.

>>723907

Are the Assyrians /ourguys/ (Orthodox)?

>>723966

No. They’re literally Nestorians.

inb4 token church of the east poster comes in defending Nestorius

>>723884

>muh vatican 2 boogie-man

You know, if your heretics just didn't change Catholic doctrine you people wouldn't be marrying and apologizing for the fags and pedos in your church.

>>723967

>>723966

There are Nestorians and Chaldean Catholics, Syrian Orthodox, Melkites. There are Greek Orthodox in places like Maaloula.

The Church of the East maintains that they aren't Nestorian as they're accused but that their belief has been misunderstood. This is similar to how the Oriental Orthodox rationalize the circumstances surrounding their schisms.

>>723971

Thank you for correcting me.

>>723973

No problem

>>723966

>I'm Orthodox

Well, it's still an unfounded statement since we condemn homosexuality doctrinally.

It's like saying that orthodox are child traffickers because of the Russian and Romanian mafia in the late 20th century.

>>723988

>Did the Orthodox clergy traffic children?

Not clergy per sé, more the monks and nuns who ran orphanages.

>Because the Catholic clergy rapes children, not even talking about the laity.

Wow so much facts in one sentence.

>>724019

> more the monks and nuns who ran orphanages.

source?

>Wow so much facts in one sentence.

https://www.google.com/search?q=catholic+church+sex+abuse

>>724033

>source?

<Implying that one would keep profile papers of trafficked children

It's kind of know that this happened in Romania.

http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Romania.htm

Lots of these orphanages are/were ran by nuns.

>https://www.google.com/search?q=catholic+church+sex+abuse

<Here are sex abuse scandals within your church therefore everybody in your church is a sex abusing pedophile

Hmm, guess all orthodox are now pimps and sex abusers themselves.

https://www.rferl.org/a/serbia-orthodox-church-bishop-orgies-rape-scandal/24965214.html

http://www.greeknewsonline.com/homosexuality-and-clergy-sexual-abuse-rampant-in-the-greek-orthodox-archdiocese-and-the-orthodox-church-in-america/

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/orthodox-priest-caught-transporting-prostitutes-58597

https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-russian-priest-pimping-traffcking/28852877.html

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/orthodox-priest-caught-transporting-prostitutes-58597

>>723913

The Soviets were some of the first to allow homosexuality and abortion. They were not a force against degeneracy, they were one of its biggest encouragers.

>>724035

>Lots of these orphanages are/were ran by nuns.

Says who? It doesn't say that on the website.

>Hmm, guess all orthodox are now pimps and sex abusers themselves.

Right, but those are just a handful of cases. Sexual abuse of children is certainly most regrettable, whoever the perpetrator, but there's a huge difference if it's almost symptomatic like in Catholicism, or a rare exception like in Orthodoxy.

I though this catholics living in small communities would be faithful unlike westerners. Wtf is going on? I though Eastern catholics were more faithful than the west.

>>724056

>Says who? It doesn't say that on the website.

<He has never talked with Eastern-Europeans

>Right, but those are just a handful of cases

>there's a huge difference if it's almost symptomatic like in Catholicism, or a rare exception like in Orthodoxy

<He really thinks abuse is symptomatic to Catholicism just because that's the most reported by (((mainstream media))) in the West

How rich, why not read facts before you go on accusing a whole group because a small minority is actually abusing.

The orthodox church has a lot of problems of their own, but I guess new converts don't like those facts.

P. JENKINS, Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a Crisis, Oxford University press, 1996.

Read up, then come back.

>>724085

Apparently it's just Beirut according to the Lebanese posting here.

>>723884

>what was the Enlightenment?

>what was the American Revolution?

>what was the French Revolution?

>what was the Turkish War of Independence?

America is the epicenter for the spread of Liberalism by certain interested groups, notably the Freemasons.

>>724086

><He has never talked with Eastern-Europeans

As an actual eastern euro, i feel obliged to intervene.

Our press is just as jackal-like, and loves shitting on the Church(the EO is the main target here) for pretty much anything, so any juicy tale of church corruption and sex scandals will be a boufet for them.

As an almost 25yo, here are the ecclesiastical sex scandals i can remember in my lifetime:

>2 monks probably did it in the butt(they said he was massaging his bones, but whatever);

>a couple of nuns got pregnant;

>ONE pedo priest case;

As for the last one, the media had a field day, dragged that fiasco for 2/3rds of a year, and beat it to death, due to how rare it was, while the Church immediately dropped that priest like a hot potato.

Now, i'm sure those aren't the only ones that have happened, and we also have more financially corrupt clergy than you guys, but sex-wise, we have way less of a problem than you, and retarded CIDF "our boy-rape rates are at normal levels, citizen" apologetics are insane.

The Roman Church def. has a problem with pedo priests, and they need to accept it.

It happened even before the Schism, and God sent you/us St. Peter Damian that fought against this plague.

Medieval rule books also have massively restrictive rules on priest-boy interactions precisely to avoid this shit.

So man up, and accept your issues.

>>724037

Proof?

It's quite understandable that western liberal democracies should have become the biggest advocates for it.

The Soviet film director Sergei Parajanov was convicted of homosexuality.

The track record for it in communist states is enough to give gay advocates plenty fuel for accusations of persecution against them up to this day.

Just conservatards like you equate communism with corporatist social liberalism in your countries and act like communist states are supposed to have been a paradise for gays.

Even laws against it former self proclaimed socialist republics is rooted in legislation of the that era.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_under_communism

>>724187

>As an actual eastern euro, i feel obliged to intervene.

>Our press is just as jackal-like, and loves shitting on the Church

I meant more the stuff you hear from regular folks, not media, and I remember these orphanages being something exclusively Romanian (or even Moldavian).

>So man up, and accept your issues.

I accept the issues, but the guy generalizing that all catholics are gay pedos was just plain wrong and did as if the orthodox church doesn't have any problems whatsoever (which made him sound like a recent convert orthoLARPer tbh).

Our main problem is the corruption and misconduct leading to these abuses, but in all honesty there aren't many cases I know of where I live either (I can name one guy, and maybe heard about two others).

The one I remember was also hot news for the rest of the year.

As far as I know it's mainly an American thing, though the cover-ups happened everywhere.