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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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99fbab  No.722804

“If his sons forsake my law and do not follow my statutes, if they violate my decrees and fail to keep my commands, I will punish their sin with the rod, their iniquity with flogging; but I will not take my love from him, nor will I ever betray my faithfulness.

I will not violate my covenant or alter what my lips have uttered.

Once for all, I have sworn by my holiness—and I will not lie to David— that his line will continue forever and his throne endure before me like the sun; it will be established forever like the moon, the faithful witness in the sky.” Psalm 89:30-37

If you read the chapter, it's obviously talking about Christ and those of his covenant. So how does this play a role within the church? Is this proof of purgatory if sin still needs to be cleansed after physical death?

8c0b75  No.722887

it means Christ's Church will suffer the presence of reprobates while He puts up with us until the second coming, St. Augustine thought as much


99fbab  No.722968

>>722887

>reprobates

Wasn't Augustine a roman catholic, not a calvinist?


26fe9c  No.722992

>>722968

Reprobate can be found in Romans 1:28, it isn't a calvinist invention. It's just those from whom God has withdrawn grace due to their unbelief.


130ae4  No.723365

>>722804

Neither the sun nor moon last forever and shouldn’t God know that they only last a few billion years


b66251  No.723425

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>>722804

How you would get "proof of purgatory" from this I am not sure. Basically the Lord's declaring at least one of David's heirs – if they "do not follow my statutes" – will live long enough to bear heirs, and the pattern will repeat so that "his line continues forever". Your sons don't need to live eighty years in order to have sons of their own. They can be punished "with the rod" at 30 if they're rebellious and still God fulfils His promise.

This is nothing to do with purgatory. Even if such a thing existed.


8c0b75  No.723435

>>722992

God's regard and disregard for Abel and Cain's sacrifice is also important here, Cain was not given grace to resist his sins, which ballooned into the first murder.

It's almost important to understand the implication in the context of Christianity, because it is only the Catholics that still re-present the Lamb of God as the Sacrifice, the full and infinite sacrifice that destroys all sin and death.


0287f1  No.723436

>>723435

>re-present the Lamb of God as the Sacrifice

What a gross and profane blasphemy. Shame on you, and may God have mercy on your souls


8c0b75  No.723446

>>723436

if we have no sacrifice, then God shall have no regard. what do you offer God? do you offer the Lamb? if you offer nothing, what regard can God offer?


8c0b75  No.723548

>>723534

>making sacrifice obsolete

Burnt and sin sacrifices are obsolete, not the re-presentation of Jesus Christ in His Passion at Calvary.

If you do not eat of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, you shall not enter Heaven. St. Paul knew this, and said if you do not believe the Eucharist is what it is, you shall be damned, even to sickness unto death. What of those who refuse to eat? Or insult God, Christ, and His Church at the same time?


8c0b75  No.723560

>>723548

said if you do not believe the Eucharist is what it is and try to eat of it*

for clarity




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