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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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66749b  No.721131

What would /christian/ deem as their top sources (websites, documentaries, books, etc) on the non-religious historical accounts of Jesus Christ?

My brother chose to do his historical figure essay on Jesus Christ for college and asked me if I knew any good sources. I, myself, struggled with Christianity in the past and fell out of it at a point but have since been snooping around after a renewal interest, so this question struck me as something just as important for me to look into as well. Thanks in advance for any good sources and apologies if this question has already been asked recently.

ce5128  No.721138

Try:

Josephus

Tacitus

Pliny the Younger

Babylonian Talmud ( the complied history of rabbinical Judaism )

Lucian

Here’s the simple one that your brother can branch from

https://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources


8b8c37  No.721139


5aafb3  No.721141

>>721131

Make sure if he talks about Josephus he at least brings up and considers the theories about the forgery of the text b/c if it is a college essay the teacher's going to want to pick it to pieces. I ultimately don't think the passages were entirely fabricated but the first one was likely tampered with in at least some way


4902cc  No.721176

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>>721173


8b8c37  No.721177

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>>721163

>This projection


8b8c37  No.721195

>>721189

>refuted

Heh this guy.


786a57  No.721198

>>721163

Epic fellow rick and morty fan


786a57  No.721205

>>721201

WUBALUBBADUBDUB! I'M PICKLE RICK! XD


66749b  No.722110

OP here. Thank you to those who didn't initially present their information/rebuttal with petty name calling.

It's always disappointing when there are people who do come to debate on these ideas but have long stifled any interest to a civil discussion when they've already resorted to overly impatient, childish heckling.


66749b  No.722121

>>722110

(.cont) For an addendum of the presentation, my brother predicted correctly that it almost turned into a shitshow. The teacher was a progressive atheist sort who tries to stuff up shift over anything she didn't like and her with two atheist students who tried to back her up challenged my brother on the validity of Christianity's morality over that there are criminals that kill who are also Christian.

My brother and a few students who spoke on his behalf for the most part answered that this was insubstantial way to judge Christians as the modern core tenants of most churches speak against murder and that it wouldn't make sense to say it's indicative of people who lack faith to result in and thus be blamable for the communist atheist states mass genocides of the past hundred years. From what he tells me, my brother was happy with how the conversation turned out as many of his peers either agreed with him or tried to back him up in the end.




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