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>>719376

Okay. Also please pray for us too while you’re at it.

Been fighting an urge for a week now. It goes away for good I heard.

>>720051

Nah brother, I've been masturbating multiple times daily for the last couple years. You just have to deny yourself, like I would get thoughts or urges today but I just kept denying myself and the feeling eventually went away.

One of the most useful pieces of information I got is that is assuming complete agency in goal is only strong as your resolve. Resolve is only as strong as your desire, and I assume anybody has a stronger desire for sin, then anything else. Or at least, sin is constant, rather then virtue that has to be embraced in spite of sin constantly. " The spirit is willing, but the body is weak " it's so true, we can't rely on ourselves, we have to give our desire to God every temptation we have to give the burden to God. When you hold it, it get heavier, and heavier, until you notice that if you are not handing it, over what else are you going to do, exactly! indulge desire.

>>720040

its moreso dormant than anything, never think you've "won" and become idle

Numbers 21

6 And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

8 And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery [brass] serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

It talks about the Israelites not being able to control their sexual energy.

Just climaxing to an image in your mind is worshiping a false idol,

and I shouldn't have to tell you masturbating in a relationship is committing adultery in your heart.

Stop watching porn. Stop masturbating.

I haven't masturbated in 4 days. D'you know what I did an hour ago? I ran 1400 meters straight. Yeah.

Masturbation opens up the door to demonic influences. It makes you lazy. Makes you apathetic.

It also changes the way your pheromones smell. Women notice if you masturbate on a subconscious level.

Don't do it.

watching pornography is fornication/adultery

>>720125

i wish that was real

Day 14; I'm inches from going insane… I just want to hug a woman and feel her skin, smell her hair, breathe next to her whilst hearing that sound like of waves coming and going from to the sea which is her breath of life. I'm so tense, and when I loose my patience I feel so guilty for my burst of anger…but at least I haven't voluntarily watched any pornographic image; I am just sorry I still can't say no to cute images on the Internet.

Please pray for this mess which is all I am.

>>722978

>Day 14

>Please pray for this mess which is all I am.

You're just passionate about life.

Sure you lose your patience every so often.

But at the same time you're less socially anxious around women.

Exercise, keep your house clean, share your burdens with Jesus. It's that simple.

This guy's video is worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_7WEBBvKA

>>720083

How does one surrender one's will to God, precisely? It feels like something I understand intellectually, but have not internalized in a practical manner.

I already did it. It´s not really hard to stop watching porn.

Those who are finding it too dificult tend to be those who don´t fap without porn. Stop watching porn first, and you will not have as much stimulation to masturbate. Then, it will be easier to stop fapping.

>>719626

You don´t need to watch porn to masturbate. Cut the porn first.

>>719376

If only it was that easy.

>>723304

This is how I stopped too. Doing nofap november now but I went mastubation free for 3 weeks in october.

I stopped intebtionally watching porn for a while, but I still accidentally bump into some. Also I unironically feel like dating sites are filling the place that porn used to hold.

>>723428

Dating sites are casual sex sites.

Whereas casual sex sites are scam/whore sites.

I think some protestants/Catholics here might have a bit too of a unsympathetic approach to those who are addicted. Satan has truly polluted the minds of more men than ever before through pornography. Never has anyone been this bombarded with nudity throughout history. Not saying it's OK to fap, but like any other sin it is a disease and we need to turn to Christ immediately when we sin and ask for forgiveness living with our wretched souls. Glory to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit unto the ages of ages amen.

>>719376

does hentia count as porn

if so does drawing a dick on a peice of paper count as porn

>>734484

Anything which awakens sexual desire in you, other than your wife in a proper setting, is against God's will and natural law. It may not be porn technically, but it is not good.

>>734563

Naunce: we can not always control when sexual desire awakens, but we should not seek it if it can not be properly brought to its good end.

>>734563

I just thought about something:

>people should never watch porn, even if they are single, because anything not with your wife isn’t allowed

>God will never leave people unsatisfied

>thus, God will either give you the resolve to change yourself to where you can find a wife, or will give you the peace of mind to not need one.

i really hope it’s the first one for me because I feel like I’m developing boarderline and I always feel sick when I fall into the easy trap of talking to sodomites because they’re as desperate as I am

>>734573

>>people should never watch porn, even if they are single, because anything not with your wife isn’t allowed

Exactly, because sexuality has a function/end/purpose (telos) which I understand as being procreation & uniting the spouses. This is exemplified in that women report higher life-satisfaction when they have more children. Aristotle says that happiness is achieved through living out your function (nichomachean ethics).

>>God will never leave people unsatisfied

>>thus, God will either give you the resolve to change yourself to where you can find a wife, or will give you the peace of mind to not need one.

The function/end of mankind is to know God familiarly. This is what he desires, and this is why He created us. If we fulfill this function, which requires collaboration on our part (like marriage), we will not be unsatisfied. This should be the case whether we get married or not.

If my future wife loves me higher than she loves Jesus, I would start worrying about her soul.

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." I think the Lord is talking about comparative hate, such that in comparison to how much we love Him, we hate everything else.

But I still think you are right, in that 2 Peter 1:3 "His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence,". God will not hold back from us what we need, but gives it freely. We receive it through knowledge of Him. So through knowing him, becoming sanctified, we will either receive the strength required for marriage, or we will find peace without it. But ask and you shall receive, fail to ask and you shall not receive.

1. Corinthians 7 is also highly relevant for this question of single vs marriage.

>>734573

>I always feel sick when I fall into the easy trap of talking to sodomites because they’re as desperate as I am

Empty meaningless intercouse is no more "stimulating" than doing things on your own. It is the sin in us that makes the forbidden seem good. It seems good because it is forbidden, because the sin leads us to rebel against God, to desire going against his will for its own sake. This I believe is what Paul is talking about in Romans 7:7-11.

>>722868

You forgot cuckoldry

>>719376

Based and Holypilled.

It's actually easy to stop if you have that real, saving faith.

>>719376

You know, setting this as my phone's background just might help.

>>737913

>imagine having to spin everything you say to be disdainful

I bet you're real saved. God owns you one.

Please stop, brothers and sisters. I stopped very recently and can immediately tell the difference. No, I did not gain magical powers or attract every woman in the world.

However, I've since been able to focus much more on the Lord and on Scripture. Instead of my mind being consumed by filth and sexual thoughts, it's now full of theology and a thirst to understand Scripture.

> but what about temptations

Just pray. Every time I'm tempted, I just pray in my head "Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy" until it goes away. It helps if I imagine Biblical scenery too, like Moses at Mount Sinai or Christ approaching the Pharisees.

Since then, I've had very few sexual thoughts compared to before. Anytime they do appear, I pray them to be gone, and even sometimes rebuke the demons, as their corruption is what causes you to be consumed by lust.

You don't have to sit around feeling guilty and having to sneak around so that God won't see your lust. Be open about your issue, and beg for the Lord to grant you spiritual righteousness to rebuke these sins. You can do NOTHING without the will of God on your side. You cannot defeat lust without the help of the Lord.

>>719376

I'm trying and failing. Pray for me.