/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

according to E. Michael Jones, he was a swindler that worked over FBI contacts at TIME magazine and New Yorker Jews

complete fraud imo, he was amusing when i first encountered him on art bell though

>>719305

>1-2% of Catholic priests are practicing satanists who are involved in ritual abuse

Hmm

>”Many of my collaborators who fight with me (against paedophilia) reassure me with reliable statistics that say that the level of paedophilia in the Church is at about ‘’’two percent.’’’ -Pope Francis, 2014

>>719305

>Pius XI was murdered by the Italian facist regime

Possibly

>Pope John Paul I was murdered by the USSR

He was murdered by the Freemasons who were in charge of important Vatican offices before he could remove them. For example Cdl. Villot (Secretary of state) and Cdl. Marcinkus (head of Vatican Bank) were both Freemasons, other than the Pope there is a trail of blood in Italy if you follow the money of the IOR in the late 70s, early 80s.

>Satanic rituals had been practiced in the Vatican and the pedophilia we see in the church is often a part of satanic rites

Pedophilia can be ritual, yes. The same thing is happening in Hollywood, British parliament, etc…

It's possible he's mixing truth and lies to confuse the waters. For example blaming the death of JPI on the wrong persons.

>>719306

>E. Michael Jones

You mean the fag that's constantly butt mad that he's not more popular or considered a modern prophet. The guy so starved for exposure he went on a daily stormer podcast. Yeah, I'll really take his word on things.

>>719365

you should, he usually backs up what he's saying with sources and research

>>719410

Last time I listened to him he was bemoaning the fact that the trads weren't lock step with him and didn't hang on his every word.

>>719431

most trads are fake catholics and don't even attend Sunday Mass

>>719432

Oh. I get why you like him now. Good luck being g butt buddies with your prophet.

>>719437

the only reward for disobedience is hell

>>719305

He fits the narrative of Christian/pol/.

He says all the things about Catholics that Christian/pol/ believes.

So, what does /christian/ think? Obviously /christian/ worships this man and believes he is God made flesh.

>>719439

So you're raising Jones to godhood now. Whatever floats your boat.

>>719440

He's full of garbage and nobody should take him seriously.

>>719445

Go away already. If you really want to stick it to me, attend Mass every Sunday. I went to a TLM Mass and was astonished, there were only a handful of young men there. "Tradcaths" are people who talk the talk but don't receive the Eucharist every Sunday.

>>719440

What are you even talking about? Father Malachi Martin gets very little play here.

>>719448

>Go away already.

Boohoo. No one's a real catholic unless they suck you and your prophets dick.

To bad, no one cares.

>>719449

I bet he will now.

>>719451

Brother, are we in the same Church?

>>719453

If you are so willing to fling anyone out for for your stupid trad stereotype I believe we aren't.

>>719456

So you have said. I will stop doubting trads when they quit acting doubtful. A traditional catholic is an obedient son, you do not see Vigano or Edward Feser excoriating others in the Church as you or any of the "trads" do. Even Vigano is exemplary in his conduct towards Francis, unlike you towards me, or any "trads" vs any Catholic.

Sedevacantists, when will you learn?

>>719459

Yes, how dare we mock your prophet. If we just got in line, and give him the attention he so desperately wants then everything would just be dandy.

So basically you can do exactly what you accuse others of. What is that again? Oh yeah, hypocrisy.

>>719462

>So basically you can do exactly what you accuse others of. What is that again? Oh yeah, hypocrisy.

You put words in my mouth, and then speak against as if I say them. When did I ever call EMJ a prophet?

then speak against me as if I said them*

>>719463

>When did I ever call EMJ a prophet?

>the only reward for disobedience is hell

The only one you could in any way say I was "disobeying" is Jones. If you want to act like not following your cult of personality makes me not a catholic then I don't want to be your type of catholic in the first place.

>>719467

>The only one you could in any way say I was "disobeying" is Jones.

You called him a prophet first, my rebuke about disobedience was concerning your endorsement about "trads" which are all about being disobedient, and being pseudo-sedevacantists.

>If you want to act like not following your cult of personality makes me not a catholic then I don't want to be your type of catholic in the first place

you're not a Michael Voris fan, are you?

>>719471

>my rebuke about disobedience was concerning your endorsement about "trads"

No I said Jones was mad that they weren't up his ass like you seem to be.

>which are all about being disobedient, and being pseudo-sedevacantists.

Maybe in the world you and Jones made for yourselves.

>you're not a Michael Voris fan, are you?

Not really but it is funny you bring up the guy Jones is most pissed off about taking the spotlight off of him.

Go be a fanboy someplace else.

>>719480

>No I said Jones was mad that they weren't up his ass like you seem to be.

Except, the only times Jones has rebuked "trads" was when he made a video attacking Voris.

I remember you, weren't you that one guy who said Jones loved Donald Trump, but obviously never watched any of his videos where he dumps on Trump for being pro-Israeli constantly? It is you.

>Go be a fanboy someplace else.

Try to be charitable, making up lies isn't Christian.

>>719483

>Except, the only times Jones has rebuked "trads" was when he made a video attacking Voris.

Never said that. I said, in essence, that he is pissy that the trads in general haven't crowned him king and given all of their attention to him.

>I remember you,

No you don't. Not liking Jones isn't so rare here you can pick us out because of it.

>Try to be charitable, making up lies isn't Christian.

So making up the spiritual habits of a huge group of people is being charitable.

>>719492

>Never said that. I said, in essence, that he is pissy that the trads in general haven't crowned him king and given all of their attention to him

Prove it.

>So making up the spiritual habits of a huge group of people is being charitable.

sure, go on churchmilitant.com and look at "tradcat" twitter

>>719524

>Prove it.

Prove what, that he acts likes he's entitled to more attention then he gets. Seeing he trains his pets like you to be rabid shitbirds anytime someone doesn't like him is proof enough for me.

>sure, go on churchmilitant.com and look at "tradcat" twitter

Doesn't prove anything you said. Just because you have a hate boner for a group doesn't change your lies into truth.

>>719539

>Prove what, that he acts likes he's entitled to more attention then he gets.

No, friend. Prove that EMJ has actually ever publicly rebuked or railed against any "trad" except Michael Voris. Unless you can provide it, you're being uncharitable.

>Seeing he trains his pets like you to be rabid shitbirds anytime someone doesn't like him is proof enough for me.

There's only myself and a few other people who even bring him up, friend.

>Doesn't prove anything you said. Just because you have a hate boner for a group doesn't change your lies into truth.

Proves everything. Look at the Church Militant, look at the people who post, observe their attitude, their habits, and what they say. Sede-vacantists are in a state of mortal sin.

>>719564

>No, friend.

You're no friend of mine.

>you're being uncharitable.

I don't care what some liar thinks is uncharitable.

>There's only myself and a few other people who even bring him up,

/christian/ doesn't encompass the entire internet.

>Proves everything

Just like many other words you use, you must be using "prove" with your own personal definition.

>Church Militant

They are one of the most normie catholic group out there. sspx are still pissed at them for rebuking them when they told people to stop going to the novus ordo mass. They are also not sedevacantists. That seems to be something you hurl out as a catch all.

>>719431

I have watched pretty much all of his videos and I have never seen him do that even once.

>>719583

He's been on other stuff. Like I said he was stupid enough to go on a daily stormed podcast.

>>719573

>Just like many other words you use, you must be using "prove" with your own personal definition.

I keep asking you to show me videos or whatever you have that proves that EMJ is attacking trads, hurry up and provide evidence.

4th time now.

>>719305

I don't listen to him, to much shadiness surrounds his name for me.

>>719819

Why should I sift through hours of video and podcasts. You would just hardwave it away like the good little fanboy you are.

But it's funny that you can lie about the spiritual habits of a huge group of people with nothing more than "check twitter" as proof.

>most trads are fake catholics and don't even attend Sunday Mass

I'd like to see you prove this but we both no you can't because you are a liar and a hypocrite.

>>719819

>provide evidence

And seeing you wanted to smear Father Malachi Martin with only "Jones says", you are the last person here to be demanding evidence.

>>719926

>Why should I sift through hours of video and podcasts.

Why would you make a claim you cannot back up?

>You would just hardwave it away like the good little fanboy you are.

No, because as a little fanboy, I've seen most of his videos and know that you cannot find any proof for anything you're saying! He never said it.

>But it's funny that you can lie about the spiritual habits of a huge group of people with nothing more than "check twitter" as proof.

and church militant, and "trad" communities, where the line between Catholics and schismatics are blurred! even reddit catholicism has this issue.

>I'd like to see you prove this but we both no you can't because you are a liar and a hypocrite

I attend the only TLM Mass for a few hundred miles in my area, the Church was half-empty!

>>719928

Jones himself supplies enough backpages of evidence and sources to justify himself, maybe you should buy Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and educate yourself?

But, we know you won't. You'll keep making up a claim you cannot back up, just like you (or someone suspiciously like you) claimed EMJ loved Trump.

Take a rag and clean up your mascara tears, I'm done.

>>719975

>Why would you make a claim you cannot back up?

Why do you.

>as a little fanboy

See, told ya.

>and church militant, and "trad" communities, where the line between Catholics and schismatics are blurred! even reddit catholicism has this issue.

So basically "cuz I said so". I got it.

>I attend the only TLM Mass for a few hundred miles in my area, the Church was half-empty!

So personal anecdotes are proof now.

>Jones himself supplies

Till he comes here himself I couldn't care less.

>You'll keep making up a claim you cannot back

Until you prove any of the shit you have said I couldn't care less about your crybaby fanboy bitching.

>just like you (or someone suspiciously like you)

Still not that guy.

>Take a rag and clean up your mascara tears, I'm done.

Oh boo boo, I can't take someone not liking my prophet.

Go along and be a liar someplace else.

>>719305

He's interesting. I listened to him back in the day, and his exorcism stuff was fascinating. But, at the time I wasn't entirely sure about some of his perceptions on other things. After all, in more worldly spheres there's many voices like and opposed to his in and around Rome.

Of course, that was 20 years ago. Since then, some of the stuff he said would occur has been borne out. Ireland went apostate (rather dramatically considering recent events), the background issues regarding pedophilia/homosexuality that he was bringing up even at that early date have exploded, other internal issues are much more to the forefront. And the nature of the direction the world was heading generally was more or less accurate, although I think he didn't really account for all the positive and negative aspects of the Internet (which was still rather new, and he wasn't). Also called the modern Jesuit spade the spade that it has become.

As far as himself and his reputation, well, that's up in the air. Some of it might have been stuff he brought on himself…but I am also quite certain that some of it was from the Lavender Mafia at the Vatican since they were quite vicious even back then. So that muddies the waters. I do get the sense he was on board with V2 and then regretted it, the first part being a knock against him. Also some of the more supernatural-related prognostications have not borne out, yet, but then he said they might not so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Personally, I certainly wouldn't rely on him as my only source on church affairs given he's got a bit of a cloud over him. And if for no other reason, he's a bit out of date. A lot's happened since he kicked the bucket and the ground game in Rome isn't quite the same as it was a generation ago. But, I wouldn't wholesale discount him either; I'd at least keep him in mind. Certainly, I'm most concerned about his (secular-side) statements regarding "auto-demolition", which seems to be going on right now with prelate against prelate in the open.

>>719440

What a silly statement. He only said Rome's going to be in a state and everyone else is a heretic or an apostate. Has something like that not been seen over and over again here, far before this thread even came up?

>>719353

>He was murdered by the Freemasons who were in charge of important Vatican offices before he could remove them. For example Cdl. Villot (Secretary of state) and Cdl. Marcinkus (head of Vatican Bank) were both Freemasons

What? Source on this one please.

I read In God's Name and I don't remember a Freemason connection which seems like a big thing to leave out of a conspiracy book.

>>719365

You are a fool. The man is a true scholar and has shown exceptional courage to expose the enemies of the church.

If he has at anytime seemed bitter about his limited exposure (which I have never seen), it is totally understandable since he has dedicated his life to his research (a lot of it groundbreaking), while most of academia are lazy cowards and get all the rewards being so.

>>720247

>You are a fool.

And your a fag

>The man is a true scholar

He might be a decent academic type guy but I never really touched on that. I talked about his personality and character. And neither will I take "Jones says" as proof on it's own to smear someone's name.

Just like his nemesis that the other fanboy brought up, Michael Voris is a decent journalist type but I wouldn't take anyones eceleb kiss ass or "voris says" as proof of anything.