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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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793f9b  No.719137

Let's read the entire bible, one chapter at a time:

Genesis 4

1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

d3edaa  No.719138

What version of the bible is this?


793f9b  No.719141

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notes

1. The bible says faith leads to goodness and good works. But Cain obviously had faith because he spoke directly with God and thus knew God existed. He even made sacrifices to God and became upset when his sacrifices weren't blessed. Why didn't Cain's belief in God lead him to goodness?

2. Was Abel's offering better than Cains? Did that figure into God's decision to bless one and not the other.

3. Where did Cain's wife come from and who were the people that Cain thought would kill him after god cursed him?

4. It says Cain went out of the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod. Does that mean God wasn't really looking after the land of Nod? Was there sacred places where Adam and Eve were living?


793f9b  No.719142

>>719138

it's King James, I don't have any special preference, I'm just using it because it's the most widely read and least controversial bible translation


3babb7  No.719173

>>719142

>least controversial bible translation

uhhh


943da5  No.719192

>>719141

Cain knew God didn't like what he was offering and instead of changing his ways he destroyed what God liked which is why he was punished.


c73451  No.719199

Cain is gay.


bf188c  No.719200

>every one that findeth me shall slay me.

How do pre-adamic deniers rationalize this.


bf188c  No.719201

>>719199

Cain behaves just like the left. They’re mad at God for making them inferior in some way so they attack and corrupt what God loves.


1640c1  No.719202

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>>719141

Question, I do I believe Catholics and Orthodox rather attribute the "Faith" spoken of in the bible to "Trusting in God" instead of "Believing in God". Is this true?


17b6f8  No.719219

>>719192

Cain's case was more that God had no regard for his offering, so He did not defend Cain against sin with grace.

If you read the scripture closely, Cain's indifferent offering led to pride, anger, and then into full-blown mortal sin. God even rebuked Cain fairly gently before Cain murdered Abel, "but if ill, shall not sin forthwith be present at the door?"

>>719141

1. Cain's indifferent offering meant nothing to God, and so Cain received no grace. We need grace to resist sin, which only comes about from authentic offering (Eucharist)

2. Yes. Abel offered God the choicest part of his labor, Cain offered Him something that meant nothing, a carrot among carrots.

3. Adam and Eve possibly had many more children off-screen (they lived for 900+ years); or there were pre-Adamic humanoids, who were possibly not blessed with Logos

4. More likely it meant Cain left the tribe that worshiped God and into a strange and foreign land that did not worship God, possibly unpeople at the time.


518b63  No.719229

>>719200

Tell me where it says they had no younger siblings by that time.

Seth was simply Eve's first son born after Abel's death.


02b293  No.719241

>>719173

It's pretty reliable overall. Just baptist,catholic, or falseflagger trolls like to bait eachother all the time over it.


17b6f8  No.719266

>>719241

the majority of Christians don't even speak English dude


793f9b  No.719274

>>719202

I can't speak to Orthodox beliefs but I'm Catholic and I've never heard of anything like that. Catholics do take the bible seriously, and we believe it's divinely revealed, we just believe there is tradition which is divinely guided and is useful in interpreting scripture as well as giving additional guidance. Though I'll admit most Catholics I know don't read and memorize the bibles the way protestants do.


17b6f8  No.719275

>>719274

It's because the means for Sacred Scripture to be wide-spread wasn't around for 1,500 years, and the actual Canon was first created for liturgy, so we when sit in the pews and listen to a reading from OT, NT, and the Gospels, this was how the ancient Church disseminated the teachings of Jesus Christ.

There's a reason why a good majority of the Church Fathers were from or involved with the Priesthood. So in actuality, hearing Scripture in Mass is the classic, authentic tradition for 1,500 years of Christianity.


02b293  No.719328

>>719266

Well most /christians/ appear to.

Similarly I recommend the Reina-Valera as the best Spanish translation which follows the same protocol as the KJB with a masoretic text for the OT and a Greek text for the NT. The other translations I've seen perform less satisfactorily.


8082a5  No.719336

>>719141

Cain didn’t have faith else he would have believed god.


8082a5  No.719337

>>719200

They can’t




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