Thoughts on Christian communism?

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Thoughts on Christian communism? Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 16:16:09 6b5309 No.708841

Is communism reconcilable with scripture? Did the apostles practice communism?

(Acts 4:32-35)

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 16:25:51 1fc831 No.708845

By Economic policies, perhaps it is possible

By Social policies, never, because its modus opperandi will always be "religion is opiate of masses"

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 16:27:27 743420 No.708846

Having a capital=/=capitalism

Sharing with others what you got out of love and not by force=/=communism

Ideologies are enemies of God’s order for the most part.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 17:02:05 0a6d78 No.708861

>>708841

You see, the reason why communism didn't work is human corruption.

The people who promised to solve the struggles of the working class, decided to abuse and exploit the working class even further instead.

So real communism HAS BEEN TRIED, but human shortcomings turned it into a living nightmare.

If we could turn humanity into a better species, communism might just possibly work.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 17:10:03 e5dd39 No.708866

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>>708841

>shitstorm incoming

I tried having a rational debate on this once, OP, and it turned into a ragefest with some orthbros presumably fmr-Bloc Orthbros rather than just commie-hating Amerifats comprehensively unwilling to even countenance the smallest acceptability to communism.

The ideal was meritorious. The implementation appalling. Frankly I do not believe any -ism can be ultimately successful because they will always run afoul of that most fundamental of forces: human nature, which is debased and selfish, and if it's not (((the economically powerful))) deliberately corrupting the political state for their own ends and stealing by legal means what does not belong to them, it's megalomaniacs killing every apparatchik who comes close too close to power in their imagination.

Thus, I nod at Paine's observation:

>If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.

This understanding, to my mind, is the best foundation of governmental theory.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 18:00:49 cdefbf No.708873

>>708861

>Not being redpilled on Communism

>communism didn't work

It did. It was made to genocide Europeans and it worked.

It was made to destroy Christianity and it partly worked but there is a revival of Christianity in Russia and Eastern Europe, but capitalism stiffles the revival.

Communist propaganda talks a lot about "muh worker" "muh justice" but look at what they did to Christians. Look what they did to Russians, Ukrainians, the whole Europe. My blood boils in my veins when christians go around praising communist ideology, saying people are corrupt so it does not work. It works, enemies of God created it, my people suffered under it a lot.

So please read Solzhenitsyn or other literature about it, read Marx the communist manifesto. Marx specifically says communism aims to destroy family, nation and religion. Your view is errorneous and short sighted because you do not have any information besides "muh socialism, muh it does not work, praise capitalism".

Christianity and communism have absolutely NOTHING IN COMMON.

nothing.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 19:54:00 b1a2dc No.708893

>>708846

This. Jesus asked us to be charitable and to love each other, but I'd hardly call pointing a gun at someone who can't afford to help others a charitable and loving act.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 19:58:23 0a6d78 No.708894

>>708873

>triggered JBPtard

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 20:12:54 e5650e No.708897

>>708873

>My blood boils in my veins when christians go around praising communist ideology, saying people are corrupt so it does not work. It works, enemies of God created it

This.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 20:23:43 5114a9 No.708898

no, see Rerum Novarum

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 20:28:24 1e4a08 No.708901

>>708841

communism incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, so no, it is wholly incompatible with christianity.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 20:50:00 9b4a52 No.708907

>>708873

>Marx specifically says communism aims to destroy family, nation and religion.

Somehow this is often overlooked in favor of "muh equality"

>>708841

If anything that sounds more like Christian anarchism. Jacques Ellul wrote a lot about the topic but I guess it never really caught on. Or there are intentional communities of Christians that sort of work like that.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 21:02:55 d4c6bb No.708913

>>708907

Probably not Christian but last night an Argentine travel tv segment came on showing Christiania, the Danish anarchist commune.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 21:32:33 df3165 No.708922

Communism is gay. Cathbol on the other hand…

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 22:04:18 774e16 No.708931

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>>708866

>it turned into a ragefest with some…presumably fmr-Bloc Orthbros…comprehensively unwilling to even countenance the smallest acceptability to communism

Good.

>>708873

Well said anon.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 22:22:38 4e3dca No.708934

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>>708873

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 22:48:22 e5650e No.708941

>>708934

Oh, so it's jidf pushing this (((Christian communism))) narrative. It all makes sense now.

Christanon 09/30/18 (Sun) 22:59:01 49a656 No.708944

Theft is a sin.

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 00:16:08 dbbb6f No.708959

2 Thessalonians 3:10

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 00:51:06 c93f6f No.708967

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>>708841

>is threating captial punishment to anyone who doesn't share reconcilable with scripture?

>Is murdering anyone who criticizes communism for "the good of the people" reconcilable with scripture?

>Is putting "the people" (the state) above God reconcilable with scripture?

No

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 00:56:23 7f9ae5 No.708968

>>708861

Even if It worked as intended I'll still oppose It

>>708967

While I agree with your points, I recommend not to use prager u in the future since It has somewhat of bad reputation, and It might lead some to dismiss your argument right off the bat.

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 01:40:29 774e16 No.708978

>>708968

>I recommend not to use prager u in the future since It has somewhat of bad reputation, and It might lead some to dismiss your argument right off the bat.

Well, mainly Prager is a fairly boring US righty, who would automatically only turn off easily offended liberals/SJWs (same thing) or communists. Neither of which are going to accept any gommie results in the first place unless they arrive at the conclusion themselves. People like finding out on their own that they are wrong, they react badly to being told they are wrong (unless they already respect the authority telling them that).

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 01:41:01 774e16 No.708979

>>708978

>Neither of which are going to accept any anti-gommie results

Minor fix.

Christanon 10/01/18 (Mon) 02:17:23 3b9b08 No.708991

Christian communism is unnessecary. If a true christian community comes together, then they should practice charity naturally to the extent that everyone is looked after, without the usual coercion of communist governments.

Im more a strasserite tbh