>"leads us not into temptation..."1. Is this a good translation? I don't understand why this is in the prayer, since God is good and even by our own intuition wouldn't do such a thing, and confirmed by James 1:13. It seems like a superfluous thing to pra

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Christanon 09/28/18 (Fri) 11:43:31 5edfa2 No.708105

>"leads us not into temptation…"

1. Is this a good translation? I don't understand why this is in the prayer, since God is good and even by our own intuition wouldn't do such a thing, and confirmed by James 1:13. It seems like a superfluous thing to pray for or worry about….

2. Does rejecting "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" and 'do not cast the first stone' mean that judges shouldn't hand out retributive justice, harsh prison sentences and death penalties? If a convict shows remorse and asks for forgiveness, wouldn't a judge be obliged to just forgive him and set him free? Assuming we're under a Christian theocracy, not some secular court.

Christanon 09/28/18 (Fri) 11:53:20 6ba27b No.708106

It basically means "prevent us to sin, prevent us to be tempted. Do not allow sin to overcome us."

Christanon 09/28/18 (Fri) 12:51:29 43174f No.708122

No, my opinion is that "and bring us not into trialling" would be best.

Temptation used to have connotations of such but it appears that the meaning might have been "scandalized" in later times becoming synonymous with "seduction" and "enticement" in the popular mind today.

Old English used "costnunge" i.e. dialectal British English: costning.

Christanon 09/28/18 (Fri) 14:46:36 e248bc No.708137

>>708105

I think a more accurate translation in modern vernacular would be “don’t let us be tested rather protect from evil (jews).”