Holy Ghost Indwelling

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Holy Ghost Indwelling Christanon 09/23/18 (Sun) 20:23:01 425a04 No.705719

Acts 8:

15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Here we see people baptized in the name of Jesus without receiving the Holy Ghost until an apostle laid hands on them. We see the purpose of the gift in Mark 16:20, and in Acts 2 to spread and confirm the word. In John 14:26 we see the apostles who receive the gift can remember all things said unto them and miraculous memory of the word. Who receives the gift of the Holy Ghost today, if the people in the first century received it by an apostle's hands? How do we have fellowship with the godhead today without a physical indwelling? Through God's word that is now completed and widely available?

Christanon 09/23/18 (Sun) 20:31:02 42f6aa No.705725

You put your entire faith and trust in Jesus Christ to save you from the condemnation that you know you deserve.

When you do that, then you have the Comforter dwelling within you to bear witness to the truth

>13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

>14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Most people get tripped up at step 1 which is understanding and coming to terms with the fact that you are no better than your fathers who killed the prophets and the heir Himself.

Christanon 09/23/18 (Sun) 20:34:32 ed0c6a No.705729

And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? - Luke 11:9-13

Christanon 09/23/18 (Sun) 20:58:12 e00677 No.705747

>>705719

>Who receives the gift of the Holy Ghost today, if the people in the first century received it by an apostle's hands?

Begome Apostolic Cathadox

Christanon 09/23/18 (Sun) 21:00:58 425a04 No.705750

>>705725

Bear witness to the truth in what way? In the Bible it's miraculous memory of the word or speaking in another's tongue, and was received by an apostle's hands, and he fell upon none of them until this happened. I don't see anyone who has the gift today, nor do I find anyone in the Bible who receives the Holy Ghost that does no miracles or knowledge of the word. God does walk among us as we see in parallel passages in Leviticus.

>>705729

So you think anyone who asks receives an indwelling? I think that verse is referring specifically to the gifts of the Comforter for the kingdom of God because of Matthew 7. That's a good verse though, you won't receive without asking.

>Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

>7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Christanon 09/24/18 (Mon) 02:30:13 cdcd26 No.705954

>>705719

I find it likely that the Acts 8 group was similar to the Acts 19 group. They hadn't been given the triune baptism commanded by Christ (Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost), and as such did not have the Holy Spirit. You see in 8:16 it says they were only baptized in the name of Jesus, and so the apostles had to lay hands on them for them to receive the Holy Ghost. Now look at a similar story in Acts 19

>And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

>He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

>And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

>Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

>When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

>And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

>And all the men were about twelve.

I see a definite parallel in the story. Baptism in the apostolic churches is given in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. The priest baptizers are also successors of the apostles. So in this story, people not baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit did not have the Holy Spirit. I think that's all that's going on

Christanon 09/24/18 (Mon) 03:14:51 425a04 No.705971

>>705954

I wonder why the apostles baptized them without the name of the Father or the Holy Ghost then. It's also interesting that Paul asked how they hadn't heard about the Holy Ghost by their baptism, but would then baptize only in the name of Jesus, when Jesus commanded of them to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.