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>Revelation 22:6: “And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.”

These sayings (sayings is another word for words) are faithful and true. The angel is clearly talking about literal words in this case. Let’s see what this book says about Jesus three chapters earlier

>Revelation 19:11: And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Wow, it really makes you think

>>691958

Wow so the Bible is God? I will bow down in worship then. Praise be to our great God! :)

>>691954

Jesus was the word that became flesh, was with God, while also being him. This in reality is clear proposal of what would later being in trinitarian theology.

>>691961

The Bible says that Jesus is the WORD of God which is also what the Bible is. The KJV Bible must then be Jesus, it shares in his essence according to the Bible itself! Maybe you should pick it up and read it.

Why are Andersonites so retarded?

>>691963

>The Bible says that Jesus is the WORD of God which is also what the Bible is.

Jesus was the word in that what he taught was directly of god, and by god, not that he was literally gods word, it's poetic!

The bible nomatter how true, and divinely inspired it is, is a document, compiled, and written by people, while Jesus's word was literally gods, straight from the horses mouth, think about it.

>>691954

So, there's two words in the Greek, translated as "word" in English. The first, which came from your verse, is Logos. Logos refers to Christ, and it is the reason, or underlying principle of the universe. From it, we get the word logic (which should show how ridiculous it is that some believe faith and logic/reason/science are incompatible).

The second is rhema, as in the "thing said." For instance, Paul says "faith comes from hearing, moreover hearing the word of God [Christ]" [brackets because conflicting scriptures on that minor point]. The Greek word hear is "rhematos," basically, faith comes from hearing the -sayings- of Christ. This is different that the Logos himself, the principle underlying our universe that is transcendent. It's just the words that the Logos spoke.

Logos means Christ, Rhema means things that were said. Both are translated as "Word." If, when you say the bible is the "word of God" you mean it is the Rhema of God - true, if you mean it is the Logos, you are mistaken.

It's especially important to check which "word" was used in the Greek if you intend to quote a verse to see whether it refers to Christ or His sayings.

>>691968

This the Bible is meant to stand in for the Word of our Lord but it is not our Lord worshiping the Bible and not Our Lord is idolatry and is a one way ticket to hell.

Jesus is the Word!! The Bible is God!! The Bible is Jesus!!

>>691975

Wow! And I thought this thread was posted by some jokers… I'm watching this video and I can't believe this is actually happening. These people are not anything like Christians, they are pagans, even worst than pagans.

>>691954

>taking a mistranslation literally

This is why real Christianity is dead. The Greek word used was “Logos” not “word.” If proddies had any knowledge of Greek philosophy they would know why that’s important.

>>692007

I know, right, I made a whole post about it >>691971 but everyone ignores it.

>>691963

Pure idolatry, but let’s entertain it. Why KJV specifically, then?

>>692007

>This is why real Christianity is dead

Get behind me Satan.

>Matthew 16:18 – And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, ```and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.```

>>692030

It's not literally caput, but you have to be delusional to think even 1% of the plebs have a firm grasp of it in this age.

>hey man how many levels of protestantism are you on

>I dunno like 5 or 6 my dude

>you are like a baby, watch this

>>691954

>Jesus

Nehemiah 7:39

Οἱ ἱερεῖς υἱοὶ Ἰωδαὲ εἰς οἶκον Ἰησοῦ, ἐνακόσιοι ἑβδομηκοντατρεῖς.

הַֽכֹּהֲנִ֑ים בְּנֵ֤י יְדַֽעְיָה֙ לְבֵ֣ית יֵשׁ֔וּעַ תְּשַׁ֥ע מֵאֹ֖ות שִׁבְעִ֥ים וּשְׁלֹשָֽׁה׃ ס

KJV

The priests: the children of Jedaiah, of the house of Jeshua, nine hundred seventy and three.

>>691975

>What kind of a name is word

Protestant theology is literally kindergarten level. "Jesus can't be the word that would be silly! Don't talk to me about what "Logos" means in Greek the KJV is the definitive bible and it's in English! Checkmate!"

Why do people fetichize the KJV like it's so different than the others, have you even checked other editions to compare? Some are exactly the same, word for word. Some have omitted sentences but no actual change, they're just badly edited but in no way do they change the intents and meanings. Oh and I find the NKJV to be clearer, again no change just a modernization of language so you don't misinterpret something because you're not used to outdated phrasing.

>>692203

Because they have sub 100 IQ and think that ye olde language makes it more legitimate. Their thought process is that the Bible is old so if the English used is old too then it must be more authentic.