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>>691423

Meditate on his word, not on a false image of his face.

Not really because I'm open to the idea that his artistic depictions aren't truthful. Gotta think about it, if the Antichrist is going to be believed by most people on Earth to be God, and loved by almost everyone, this implies that many christians will be deceived. And for christians to be deceived by what they see, he would have to look like what we always thought Jesus looked like. That's a theory, maybe he'll convince people through mind control and Jesus really looks like how the paintings depict him or maybe he's completely different, a black man maybe. I'll know what he looks like when he re-appears and from analyzing what he says and does, wether it respects the Law or not.

>>691425

>>691499

>>691500

>The 2nd century anti-Christian philosopher Celsus wrote that Jesus was "ugly and small"

>But, the more mainstream view, as expressed by Church Fathers Saint Jerome and Saint Augustine of Hippo, argued from a theological perspective that Jesus must have been ideally beautiful in face and body

really makes you think

>>691504

Are you trying to bring that forth as a proof that he looks like how he was depicted ? Because that's logically flawed. That one "anti-christian" says he was ugly and small doesn't prove that he is the person depicted, he could be ugly and small or beautiful and still not be the guy depicted.

The end times ask you to be vigilant in order to not be fooled. So why don't you keep a little humility instead of being sure of what he looks like and actually wait for its coming then see if the guy you're watching respects the Law or try to subtly perverts it. Because at this time, there will be 2 figures that are lamb-like in appearance and it will ask for vigilance on your part.

>>691505

Could have easily been falsified. Just like in the end times the synagogue of Satan enters the church and false popes fool the believers.

>>691506

>Could have easily been falsified

No it could not. It is verifiably old, and we do not have the technology to produce the image today.

>>691506

>For Augustine he was "beautiful as a child, beautiful on earth, beautiful in heaven". These theological arguments were further extended in the 13th century by Saint Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologiae based on his analysis of the Perfection of Christ, reasoning that Christ must have embodied every possible human perfection

>meanwhile jews want to prove he was like a muslim refugee

>>691507

It can, if fake flights exist and are never found about by 99% of people, why not a picture that has been "certified" by a few people.

It's all speculations at this point, maybe it is actually him on the picture, maybe not. You WILL have to analyze whoever that appears in a godlike coming to be sure of his true nature. Will you still think it is him because of what you think he looks like if he starts making small exceptions in the Law that will sound "reasonable" ?

>>691509

Again with the logical fallacy. Because x is a lie, then y has to be the truth.

>>691511

Don't worry, I've read Revelation so I know what to avoid.

You can't accidentally pray to the wrong God, either.

When I think about what God would *look* like, I remember Hebrews 12:29. God is a consuming fire. Pure energy. I like to associate God with something that I can't imagine what it would look like. How would an infinite being, the eternal existence itself look like? This is a lot more interesting to think about. How exactly did His face look in human form is not very important.

>>691509

Satan can easily appear (key word here) as beautiful, isn't it how he incites lust or the worship of physical beauty. You can be ugly in soul and appear beautiful to others. Illusions will be in play here, so don't be surprised if the Antichrist is beautiful and looks perfect.

I do think that he will in no way be ugly, that is probably an attempt at blasphemy by that guy. But what is your idea of beauty, can't a non-white man be beautiful ? Or maybe he's still white and beautiful and doesn't look like the guy depicted. We just don't know what he looks like with certainty.

>>691513

>Pure energy.

This sounds rather New Age-y.

>I like to associate God with something that I can't imagine what it would look like.

The Son is the exact image and likeness of the Father.

>>691511

>>691516

>A number of descriptions of Jesus have been reported by saints and mystics who claim they have seen Jesus in a vision

>Reports of such visions are more common among Roman Catholics than other Christian denominations

>And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.

REALLY makes you think

>>691519

Yeah, really makes me think of hypocrisy. If you don't agree that when the time comes, we'll have to observe and listen to know his nature by how he acts and speaks, then say it frankly.

>>691523

>denying all visions of saints and mystics

>>691523

Did you miss the part where He arrives on horseback in clouds of glory from the sky, accompanied by the armies of Heaven, and announced by deafening trumpets heard everywhere? We'll know without a doubt.

>>691423

What do you mean by meditating and how it's different from praying?

>>691527

>still not willing to answer my question openly

>>691528

Then how will the Antichrist fool "almost everyone". Surely "almost everyone" includes christians who have read their Bible, so the Antichrist could as well make the illusion of this vision when he comes down on Earth.

>>691530

No. We are told how the antichrist will come to power, and the real Christ's return will be unmistakable. Christians will be persecuted, since they will not be fooled.

>>691530

>Then how will the Antichrist fool "almost everyone"

people will be convinced that "coming on a cloud" is only a metaphor

>>691423

This is how GOD looks like folks!

>>691606

>They also claim to have received the rosary through a revelation from the virgin Mary

they did, you mad satan?

>>691629

>rosary=beads

Lol.