A question to Roman Catholics.I remember hearing that one of the standards of sainthood in your church is whoever commits at least two miracles can be titled a saint.So if a priest preforms the miracle of sacrament of the mass by transubstantiating the

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Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 01:20:07 433232 No.690990

A question to Roman Catholics.

I remember hearing that one of the standards of sainthood in your church is whoever commits at least two miracles can be titled a saint.

So if a priest preforms the miracle of sacrament of the mass by transubstantiating the bread and wine as the body of Christ at least two times, would the priest be considered a saint?

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 01:23:04 5fe311 No.690991

it has to be a miracle after death

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 02:16:28 433232 No.691004

>>690991

Oh.

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 02:26:11 de5954 No.691011

>>690990

>one of the standards of sainthood in your church is whoever commits at least two miracles can be titled a saint.

ehhh that's to be declared a Saint by the Earthly Church. Technically speaking, a saint is anyone who has successfully made it to heaven.

But yes, >>690991 is right. The Miracles must be performed after death.

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 02:29:01 9adb3f No.691014

>Two verifiable postmortem miracles

>Note: Canonization (sainthood) requires two miracles, whereas beatification (blessed) requires only one.

>Evidence of having led an exemplary life of goodness and virtue worthy of imitation, having died a heroic death (martyrdom), or having undergone a major conversion of heart where a previous immoral life is abandoned and replaced by one of outstanding holiness

If I recall the church is actually nonchalant about miracles performed by living Catholics since it it treated more like a "Obviously we you can perform miracles the Lord told us we could so stop making a big deal about it." Postmortem miracles are different though because it shows the Grace of the Lord was so strong in the person that their body literally radiates it meaning they are assuredly in heaven. Or something like that.

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 02:33:04 20ab38 No.691017

>>691004

So, who is this priest?

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 03:26:23 67a495 No.691038

It's not that miracles make them saints (or that they perform the miracles), the miracle is seen as proof that they are actually in heaven and prayed on your behalf to God (who then performed the miracle).

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 04:18:09 f94e1a No.691056

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>>690990

First, that rule isn't always strictly followed, it's just a general rule to help in the usual circumstances. It's all practical considerations, not some belief or dogma.

Second, the miracles in question are to happen after the person in question has already died - if they happen during life, they don't conclusively prove anything, because as long as a person is alive, they can sin and abandon salvation.

Christanon 08/22/18 (Wed) 08:58:34 e4de7c No.691097

>>690990

confecting the eucharist isn't unusual to a priest, but levitating by the power of God for example wouldn't be