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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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b4a944 No.682742

It seems plainly obvious that, apart from intricate word games and circumlocutions about how X isn't really magisterial because W, Y, Z, Church doctrine has changed. The current papacy has only shown a light more clearly on this fact.

Take the death penalty, by itself. The current catechism treats it as theoretically permissible but in practice almost never. Compare with medieval Christianity? They did it frequently, with the church's blessing. You're telling me that all of those people couldn't be kept in a dungeon for the rest of their lives? Couldn't be forced into servitude or something? Hogwash.

That people can be saved outside the church. If you went back to like, Pope Boniface and told him, "Oh yea, some prots and jews and buddists get to heaven too. That's what we decided you meant when you said that outside the church there is no salvation, cause, see, they're really inside the church, they just don't know it." He'd have flipped his pope hat.

Only by the most creative play of semantics can we pretend there is continuity of doctrine on all fronts in the church over the centuries. How long until doctrine "develops" to where this specific heresy of mine is no longer heretical? Sorry for the rant but I am just fed up with this. It's like you just put blinders on and say, "NO CHANGE NO CHANGE NO CHANGE!" over and over again while you sing cold play songs and receive communion in the hand from a priest who openly argues for gay marriage.

952483 No.682758

But anon, you gotta trust in Peter and the keys!

Don't worry that it took them until 1950 to dogmatize the bodily assumption of Mary.

Don't worry that it took them until 1870 to dogmatize papal infallibility.

Just keep trusting good old Peter and the Keys.


54d259 No.682767

>>682742

>receive communion in the hand from a priest who openly argues for gay marriage.

And this right here is why people winnie the pooh hate Vatican 2 say all the other shit. Vatican 2 was an attempt to destroy the church.

>gotta get rid of the Statues of Saints might alienate people

>gotta let gays into the clergy

>Hey don't do the Latin Rite Mass anymore and if you do we'll shut you down

>gotta cover up the fact the gay clergy we let in are molesting boys

>gotta undermine the faith at every level we should be more like the Protestants

>gotta elect weak or heretical Popes

At least it seems like the Lord has lit a fire under Francis' ass since he is apparently annoyed the clergy is full of homosexuals and told Bishops stop accepting Gays into seminary.

>>682758

Have you not read Acts where the Apostles all gathered together and changed Dogma? There is a reason you can eat pork and not cut your dick off.




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