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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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6654c3 No.680828

Yesterday I had a small revelation about the nature of prayer.

Essentially my theory is that prayer changes reality from a non spatial, non temporal perspective. Because that's God's perspective of things. That means that prayer can alter past, present and future (from our point of view) regardless of when they occur. Prayers can modify reality in a fluid way independently of space-time. It's like a soundwave going in every dimension, from past to future, resonating in God's limitless power.

We live in a multidimensional, quantic universe, where the observer defines the result. So we really shouldn't be too surprised about it.

726317 No.680847

Give us an example of this in action and why you believe prayer can change the past/define reality


726317 No.680848

I like Kierkegaards idea that prayer isn't meant to change God's plan but to change the nature of the one who prays.


6c7e86 No.680931

>We live in a multidimensional, quantic universe, where the observer defines the result

That is not what that means. PopSci mag editors should be hanged in the streets.


014e7a No.680972

>>680828

I think there is more to be gained, and more opportunity to grow closer to God in believing in an objective reality that we can count. If God can change the past, which he certainly can, it is irrelevant to you because, the moment he does so, you cease to exist and the new you has different memories- in which case, the new you can't even remember praying for the thing God granted.

Because the Logos was in the beginning, I believe the Christ has ordered events that created His own birth. Yet, I think God only went back to the beginning once and arranged everything, and it has already happened. I don't think he keeps dipping in the past- such an idea would contradict the promise of eternal life in the way I understand it because the "me" I am could be snuffed out at any time by a change to the past- yet Jesus promised me eternal life. So, under time-loop theory, even if you're right, the past has already been adjusted to conform to any prayer you will ever make that God would be willing to engage with, which is the same as saying God isn't changing the past based on your prayers but rather, ordered the past based on foreknowledge of us all.


dc4623 No.680992

>>680828

I would say that this is more a definition of faith than an observation of prayer. With faith you can move mountains. With total faith man can walk on water; neither of these are possible with prayer (however one should pray for the will/insight to have greater faith).

However I personally do believe that faith truly creates reality.




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