50 years since Pope Paul VI's masterpiece Humanae Vitae

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50 years since Pope Paul VI's masterpiece Humanae Vitae Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 09:03:40 8f93d0 No.680615

I don't know how such a man could have had the courage and clarity of vision to prohibit the use of artificial contraception. He saw the slippery slope before anyone else did. He saw how the use of condoms and the pill would lead to fornication, the destruction of the sacrament of marriage and the breakdown of the family and faith itself and the rise of contemporary feminism and the LGBT "community". Once our conception of sexuality and the human person becomes debased, everything else falls apart.

http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 11:14:52 7caaeb No.680651

>>680615

It was basically right about everything.

No wonder modernists are trying to reinterpret it.

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 13:34:20 27c652 No.680675

>>680615

>pope

>masterpiece

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 19:50:04 743ddd No.680789

I'm a Protestant and I'd recognize it was brilliant.

People like >>680675 will be triggered because of the author.

When I was dating a conservative IFB girl (as in, her Dad was a decently known Baptist pastor, she only wore skirt, wore a head covering at church, at was a voracious defender of the KJV) I made the mistake of bringing up how much I respected Humanae Vitae's values.

She was like,

>Do you read Catholics, anon?

Not really, at least not beyond Augustine's Confessions.

>Why do you like this papal bull? Do you think Martin Luther or the Anabaptists were heretics?

No, I do not. I just think that Giovanni Montini (Paul VI) was visionary in this area.

>Do you consider masturbating a sin, anon?

Of course, I do.

>I don't think we'd do well in a relationship together.

And that was the end of it. I wasn't even mad, tbh, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a misunderstanding. I called her Dad and explained what I was referring to, and that Onanism was specifically condemned, this certainly wasn't a defense of it. He just said, "I understand where you're coming from, she just said she was uncomfortable with you're legalism. I respect her opinions as my daughter and an adult."

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 19:51:14 743ddd No.680790

>>680789

Man, there were a lot of typos. Sorry for phoneposting.

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 21:05:24 b66a67 No.680797

>>680789

>Do you consider masturbating a sin, anon?

<Of course, I do.

>I don't think we'd do well in a relationship together.

Sounds like you might have dodged a bullet.

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 21:37:15 af654b No.680813

>>680615

>>680651

It's even more impressive when you remember that pretty much the all of the Bishops in the US and countless other modernists throughout the world, inside and outside the clergy, pressured him to tone down orthodoxy and "get with the times".

People talk a lot about how the Pope is supposed to be a servant and defender, rather than a master or architect the Tradition of the Church.

This was a perfect example of this in action. It really was a glorious "Vade retro, Satana" to the modernists.

Christanon 07/27/18 (Fri) 21:41:34 9acd97 No.680815

>>680789

>I don't think we'd do well in a relationship together

Sounds like you're better off without her, m80.

Which flavor of Protestant are you, if you don't mind? I'm curious.

Christanon 07/28/18 (Sat) 03:03:46 1ff9e9 No.680876

>>680789

>go away if you don't fap

Hmm. That's a very particular line of questioning, she would have been trouble and may yet be for someone else.

>>680813

>It's even more impressive when you remember that pretty much the all of the [lukewarm] clergy, pressured him to tone down orthodoxy and "get with the times"

Not only that but getting in his grill afterwards in fits of rage (or close to it), in some cases.

Christanon 07/28/18 (Sat) 03:51:59 eb369c No.680891

>>680815

>Which flavor of Protestant are you, if you don't mind? I'm curious.

Well, I currently consider myself to be Reformed Baptist, although by that I just mean the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith and the historic Baptist position from the 17th, 18th, and 19th Centuries, and not the dispensational and fundamentalist additions you see in many modern Baptists. I agree with IFB on some issues, but not others. For example, my eschatology would be Amillennial.

Christanon 07/28/18 (Sat) 03:55:52 eb369c No.680892

>>680797

>Sounds like you might have dodged a bullet.

>>680815

>Sounds like you're better off without her, m80.

>>680876

>Hmm. That's a very particular line of questioning, she would have been trouble and may yet be for someone else.

Yes, I can't say I was crushed when we parted ways after that. It completely changed how I perceived her.