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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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69520d No.679825

Is trying to find a church that "feels like home" the right way to go?

I suppose I should provide a bit of personal background for context. I was raised the majority of my life as a Baptist. My family left the church in my hometown because of internal corruption (recently learned this) and since then we've been going to non-denominational churches. Over the years I came to despise the idea of church autonomy and derided the Baptist/non-denominational churches for not maintaining the Church's traditions or leaning on the Church fathers for wisdom. My distaste for them solidified in the two years I was a National Socialist due to Baptists staunch support for Zionism. While I am no longer consumed by ideology (praise God), I still strongly dislike the physical state of Israel both politically and theologically. This point of contention, along with my devotion to the Blessed Mother and my patron Saint, Saint Alexandra, largely alienates me from my fellow Protestants. Combine this with my desire to enhance my mystical and spiritual connections with the Blessed Mother/God/Saint Alexandra, I don't really fit in among conventional Protestants.

I've been searching for a church to call my home for over two years now. I'm technically Protestant but have adopted many Catholic traditions such as devotions to the Blessed Mother, the selection of my Saint, and having an altar in my room. I tried becoming a Catholic, but for lack of a better synopsis, it didn't work out. I think something is holding me back from it, like God's telling me to wait or something, or that I'm personally just not ready for that kind of spiritual commitment.

I tried going Lutheran because I figured it was a best of both worlds kinda deal, until I found out about the schism in the Lutheran church regarding homosexuality and transgenderism, and how the church I was attending supported it. As a man who's suffered transgenderism/homosexual tendencies since youth, I understand the struggle better than most people, and how to deal with it, and acceptance isn't the way to go.

I've recently been attending an Episcopalian church. The congregation is great, and the priest (hi Father John) and I get along great. We both see eye to eye theologically and I've been invited to a Bible study group with some young members there. Unfortunately, the Episcopalian Church just declared that bishops are no longer able to deny same-sex marriages, a stance that my Episcopalian Church staunchly opposes but might now face the consequences for.

I asked Father John last Sunday if it was the youth's responsibility to help a dying church or join a living church. I mentioned that I was reconsidering Orthodoxy, and he replied that if he could start over, he would join them too.

I don't know what to do /christian/. I don't want to be a fair weather friend or a cherry picking Christian. I know my faith is true and my search genuine, but I'm struggling to find a place to call home. I need a Church where I can be guided by an older wiser teacher, can join fellowship with like-minded men and women my age, and can grow spiritually in every sense. Do I keep trying different churches/denominations till I get it right? Or do I settle down in the Episcopalian church for the long haul. God guide me, Blessed Mother watch me, Saint Alexandra stay with me.

69520d No.679826

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>pic related is altar


94217e No.679832

>>679825

I think that the best church is like the best rosary. The best rosary for you is the one you pray. The best church for you is the one you go to.


8a9a1d No.679893

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>>679825

> I mentioned that I was reconsidering Orthodoxy, and he replied that if he could start over, he would join them too.

The Eastern Orthodox Church would love to have you! We haven't changed in over 14 centuries, aside from language and mild localization! Our patriarchs are monks! Our priests have master's in theologies! We pray the way Christ and his disciples taught us, with ancient hymns!

You can choose any of our region/language churches! We've got Russians! Georgians! Greeks! And more!

Long live Byzantium!


e8791e No.680129

>>679893

English ?


aac008 No.680141

>>679825

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/inq_anglican.aspx

Talk to the father about joining Orthodoxy. He could join along with his church without changing much. Back during the Anglican schism when homosexual marriages became a thing or something of that ilk, many parishes joined the Orthodox communion and if I remember correctly form the bulk of the western rite parishes in the United States, with the first one entering a hundred or so years ago during(or before) the Bolshevik revolution under the Divine Liturgy of St. Tikhon

"The Divine Liturgy of Saint Tikhon – This liturgy is currently used by approximately two-thirds of congregations in the AWRV. The Rite of St Tikhon was developed utilizing the 1928 American Book of Common Prayer and the Anglican Missal. The Book of Common Prayer was altered by removing the filioque from the text of the Nicene Creed, adding prayers for the dead, the invocation of the saints, and strengthening the epiclesis within the Eucharistic prayer, and by adding the pre-communion prayers from the Byzantine Rite. It is utilized primarily by former Anglican and Episcopalian background parishes."

I recommend you read this Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Rite_Orthodoxy#Liturgy

Here is the orthodox book of common prayer.

https://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Administration-Sacraments/dp/0977709353

>I don't know what to do /Christian/. I don't want to be a fair weather friend or a cherry picking Christian. I know my faith is true and my search genuine, but I'm struggling to find a place to call home. I need a Church where I can be guided by an older wiser teacher, can join fellowship with like-minded men and women my age, and can grow spiritually in every sense. Do I keep trying different churches/denominations till I get it right? Or do I settle down in the Episcopalian church for the long haul. God guide me, Blessed Mother watch me, Saint Alexandra stay with me

Whatever happens to your parish I hope the best happens. My best advice to you would be to talk to Father John and talk to him about entering the Orthodox communion. The choice whether to settle down in your current church or to leave to another church orthodox or otherwise is something that I will admit to being spiritually unprepared to answer, I would advise you to consult the Holy Spirit in all.

Keep in mind that I am saying this as an unlearned layman but this is what seems good to me.

With good intent, and internet stranger.

>>679893

I read this in a salesmans accent and it seems like a passive aggresive attack against Orthodoxy. I am sorry for misintrepeting it if something otherwise was meant.


8a9a1d No.680616

>>680141

>I read this in a salesmans accent and it seems like a passive aggresive attack against Orthodoxy. I am sorry for misintrepeting it if something otherwise was meant.

No, I am Orthodox. I think we are friendlier for conversions than what people think.


e2df25 No.680656

>>680129

It's country based. Orthodoxy is split that way so there's no one religious leader that can command multiple countries.

So there's an American Orthodox Church and probably British too.


e2df25 No.680657

>>680616

The problem is that we don't actually go out of our way to convert, do door-to-door stuff, call people, print off flyers….


2ee884 No.680672

>>679893

False flagging Catholic troll. Thou shalt not bear false witness!




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