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>>677316

How can they possibly determine chicken and the egg? To go back to when secularization started they'd have to go back to earlier than economic records, at least in detail, exist.

Making such a strong general statement reveals massive bias. Especially when you can point to communist Russia as massive secularization and the following economic collapse. Or, does this study only apply to too small of a sample size to count that?

>>677316

All I know is that between the three Baltic states, Estonia is by far the richest and by far the least religious. Though I always imagined it was because they have better allies around them and got rid of the communist leftover after liberation from the Soviets in the 90s.

They also have most of the multi-culti propaganda spewed there too.

What are you quoting?

>Following the ruler of this current world made you temporarily and materially successful in this world

Who knew? But what does this have to do with Protestantism besides the one reference to Max Weber and his inane, debunked theory, and where's the source OP?

>>677316

I guess that's why communist countries have the best living standards in the world.

Of course secular societies will chase the god of this world, nothing new. They are more ready to trample good ethic for greater gains

>>677419

I cry everytime.

>>677397

every year thousands of South Koreans try to go North for the amazing living standards.

>>677419

>tfw no incumbent Romanov dynasty

100 years and 2 days ago, lads …

;_;

>abandoning "not drinking too much" can be seriously good for your drinking problem

Is water wet too?

I'm amazed ChristCom Gang hasn't assembled yet

>>677428

They seriously built that a statue?

Good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people. Strong people create good times. And on and on.

>implying personal wealth is more important than spiritual wealth

>Jesus said, "It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven"

>>677636

Daily reminder that the Romanovs forced them to work grueling hours in terrible conditions just so their large cities (Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.) would look a little more pristine. The ate like kings while the populace could barely even get bread. They and their friends practiced weird occult sh*t because Christianity was too boring for them. They lorded themselves over the peasants like they were better and never lifted a finger to help them.

Monarchism. Not even once.

>>677769

He's sick today

>>677769

They have, see

>>678927

>>678927

>Daily reminder that the Romanovs forced them to work grueling hours in terrible conditions just so their large cities (Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.) would look a little more pristine.

Yeah I'm so glad *institutes 19th great purge of party loyalists* that the benevolent Soviets *corralls massed prison-labour to die building canals* changed all of this *confiscates grain to starve nations into submission* for the better.

>They and their friends practiced weird occult sh*t because Christianity was too boring for them.

I'll accept this based on their association with the sorceror Rasputin.

>They lorded themselves over the peasants like they were better

Yeah weird, almost like they were royalty or something.

>Monarchism. Not even once.

<t. stalinist

>>678927

get out leftypol

>>678974

You can say all matters of slander agains't St. Nicholas II, except that he was unchristian and evil.

>>679015

>The Chad Reactionary vs the Virgin Revolutionary

>>679015

>>679020

I should clarify that I'm not talking specifically about Nicholas II. I'm talking about the Romanov dynasty as a whole (and to a lesser extent, the Russian nobility), going back centuries before 1917. The way they treated the common folk of Russia is despicable and should be rebuked by anyone who calls himself Christian. Nicholas II was arguably the least awful of the bunch. More incompetent and unsuited to the position of head of state, not to mention put in his position at the worst possible time in Russian history, than actually malevolent.

>>678915

>Good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people. Strong people create good times.

I freakin' hate this saying so much.

Then why did the Israelites not change their stubborn ways after slavery or wandering in the wilderness. Why is post-Wall Germany, especially Eastern, still atheistic, liberal, and cucking. Why is the Middle East still a hellhole? Why is Latin America still embracing the same policies, morals, and cultural mores that caused their very misery? Why are people, human, angelic, and divine, in Heaven not considered the weakest considering their at their best or almost at their best. Why are people in hell not the holiest of people considering they are at their worst times? This is the stupid worldly wisdom that is foolishness to God. Godly wisdom makes strong people, not mere suffering.

>>678927

>Monarchism. Not even once.

How does the Romanovs acting malevolently have to do monarchical government?

>>679015

>British Liberty

>Liberty, as it ought to, includes obedience

>Loyalty

>Religion

My oh my, how the times have changed, both with Britain and with talk of liberty

>>677316

OP here. I left out some text

>The study found that the loss of religion, rather than the embracing of Protestant values, correlated with future increases in prosperity. Researchers examined GDP figures for 109 countries and the importance of religious faith in those states. They found that a decrease in religious belief was linked to an increase in tolerance for individual rights, including of women and gay people and those who seek divorce or abortions. This may allow more people to play a full part in society.

>>679149

>"OP here"

>Still won't give a source

Good job OP!

>>679149

>gay people

>divorce

>abortions.

And there it is lads

>>677316

Notice how a real data is entirely manipulated by the antichristian media.

They became rich while still believing in God, the generation who grow rich is still faithful: it's their spoiled childs, born rich, that reject God.

The article make it sound as if you become rich once you reject God, it actually is you reject God AFTER becoming rich.

I am speechless by how disgusting these people are.

I dont know but Catholicism always makes people poor and countries poor. Ive heard catholic parts of germany are poorer than the rest of germany.

t. Catholic

>>679253

I see it less that Catholicism makes people poor and more that poor people mostly happen to be catholic or be in bad areas of the world (in Germany this can be blamed on the Lutheran and Secularist majority and Latin America for basically being in one of the most politically contentious areas of the world)

>>679253

>Ive heard catholic parts of germany are poorer than the rest of germany.

It's actually quite the opposite.

>>677316

>An increase in secularisation by one unit

the hell is a unit of secularization

>>686017

to be fair, blue is also largly the former DDR, meaning gommunism and we know what that means for the church

>>686035

They still look like they’re struggling financially after the fall. Hopefully they can get their act together in both secular and religious spheres.

>>686017

>the atheistic part of Germany is also the baste NatSoc anti-immigrant part

color me surprised

>>677316

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bzV4ZwQ2xE

How's that wealth turning out for their culture, let alone their souls?

>>686058

Why import Arabs when you already have dirty Slavs, the Jew cackles while “having fun” with his niece and spitting on an Icon of Christ.