/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

There is a bit to untangle here so bear with me.

>I can't do business without without paying taxes to the jew,

You are commanded to pay your taxes. There is a difference between paying them as per earthly commandment, and actively hoping your money goes to Planned Parenthood or local council LGBT initiatives.

Another thing to remember is that early Christians paid their taxes to Rome, despite knowing that this same tax money would be used to fund the games in which their comrades would be brutally murdered. The difference is that they weren't hoping this is where their money would go. Indeed, even the Lord was put to death ostensibly from the taxes which he encourages his disciples and others to pay. The point is, it's not that important. It's a lesson in submission and shearing from you that earthly part which is of no value.

>and if I do that, I serve a society of degenerates and other such filth who openly hates us and our values.

So what? You should expect to be hated because the World hates the Lord, and those who cleave to Him. This shouldn't urge you to hide your light under a bushel. Also, from what you have written, try to be a bit more humble.

>muh ethnic culture, muh heritage

Irrelevant.

As for charities, I think you are being excessively critical. The point is the intent of giving, that's what the charity part is, not where or how much is given (c.f the widow's mites). That or convert your wealth into actual substance. Buy clothes and then donate them to charity shops or just give them into local homeless missions.

Or why not found one yourself? If you are a small businessman, you should have some savvy to begin with. Or donate the money to your local diocese.

>I legitimately don't know what to do with myself, or what I'm turning into. I simply dont care about anything except the aforementioned anymore, this is new. I can't be the only one?

You're not. You just realise that worldly things are irrelevant and not worth caring about as much. The point is then not to get caught in the other end of the spectrum where you get to the edgy, quasi-nihilistic "Death to the World" mindset. St Paul rebukes those kinds of people who take their eye off the ball and just lie back and assume that Judgement is coming and so basic day to day things are worthless and shouldn't be bothered with.

>I can't do business without without paying taxes to the jew, and if I do that, I serve a society of degenerates and other such filth who openly hates us and our values

>I can't be the only one?

Yes, OP, you are the only christian in 2k years that has lived in a degenerate, anti-christian regime.

As a lover of history, i advise you to stop giving yourself importance with idiotic paranthesis and /pol/ memes.

>wat do?

Kavadilas option(thank you, catholic father Larry Bird, for linking this)

https://publicorthodoxy.org/2018/04/27/the-kavasilas-option/

>taxes

Oh another neoliberal, what's the matter not enjoying that yacht cruise along the coast of Monaco with some siliconed escort fast enough yet?

>>677181

>You are commanded to pay your taxes. There is a difference between…

Theres a lot of people who would debate that, actually.

>So what? You should expect to be hated because the World hates the Lord, and those who cleave to Him. This shouldn't urge you to hide your light under a bushel. Also, from what you have written, try to be a bit more humble.

Always good to hear.

>>muh ethnic culture, muh heritage

>Irrelevant.

This I disagree with. God made us as we are, in different places, and of different races. I want nothing to do with the jewish labors to undo this work.

>As for charities, I think you are being excessively critical. The point is the intent of giving, that's what the charity part is, not where or how much is given (c.f the widow's mites). That or convert your wealth into actual substance. Buy clothes and then donate them to charity shops or just give them into local homeless missions.

>Or why not found one yourself? If you are a small businessman, you should have some savvy to begin with. Or donate the money to your local diocese.

Eh, maybe. Its something to consider, thanks.

>>I legitimately don't know what to do with myself, or what I'm turning into. I simply dont care about anything except the aforementioned anymore, this is new. I can't be the only one?

>You're not. You just realise that worldly things are irrelevant and not worth caring about as much. The point is then not to get caught in the other end of the spectrum where you get to the edgy, quasi-nihilistic "Death to the World" mindset. St Paul rebukes those kinds of people who take their eye off the ball and just lie back and assume that Judgement is coming and so basic day to day things are worthless and shouldn't be bothered with.

Verses?

>>677182

>Yes, OP, you are the only christian in 2k years that has lived in a degenerate, anti-christian regime.

>As a lover of history, i advise you to stop giving yourself importance with idiotic paranthesis and /pol/ memes.

>>wat do?

>Kavadilas option(thank you, catholic father Larry Bird, for linking this)

>https://publicorthodoxy.org/2018/04/27/the-kavasilas-option/

I'll read up on that, thanks. I know theres lots of people who have had it lots worse, but I dont really want to do anything more than what I actually have to, for this world.

What's wrong with pol memes? Those guys are fertile soil for conversion and the only real opposition of the jew in this day and age.

>>677188

>Theres a lot of people who would debate that, actually.

There is no debate with the word of God. St Paul commands us to fulfill any obligations or dues we have with any man or institution, and (Rom 13:6-8) St Peter also advises us to fear God and Honour the King, and to obey our masters and not abuse the liberty which the spirit of God gives us (1 Pt 2:16-20).

>Always good to hear.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

>This I disagree with. God made us as we are, in different places, and of different races. I want nothing to do with the jewish labors to undo this work.

It definitely becomes irrelevant if you make it a stumbling block.

You should pray for the Jews, so misled by their father.

>Verses?

2 Thessalonians 3:11-16

>For we have heard there are some among you who walk disorderly, working not at all, but curiously meddling. Now we charge them that are such, and beseech them by the Lord Jesus Christ, that, working with silence, they would eat their own bread. But you, brethren, be not weary in well doing. And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed: Yet do not esteem him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Yeah I feel the same, I kinda just wanna watch the whole world burn

>>677196

>No debate

Yeah, it's not like there were Christians martyred for not obeying laws or anything.

I don't see you losing interest in society. You said it yourself that you're interested in the Christian community, but you do seem to lose interest in the monetary system. The latter is not society.

A good society aims to grow communal humbling of the people in the body of Christ, the Church, and not the financial exchanges between atomized components.

>>677170

As a matter of fact, I've felt just the opposite post-conversion, formerly my life was characterized by pride, sloth and basically ceaseless minor diagnosed depression. However my ambitions remain the same.

Now though whenever I lapse into these sins, I know something else must be wrong

>>677287

**undiagnosed depression

>>677170

Get into homesteading in a rural area. Become as self-sufficient as possible so that you don't have to visit the city much. Maybe find a community that wants the same thing you want.

Starting a family is always the right thing to do, but if you feel the calling to become a priest, just go for it.

Avoid race-mixing and preserve your heritage with a good woman of your own race if you don't feel like the priesthood is for you.

>>677170

I second this, OP. >>677310. We as Christians as a whole are pretty much second-class citizen here in this fallen world. It is not surprising, it happens to me too and I wish to go out into the rural country, have a farm and family, and live out of the society.

For some of us however, are called elsewhere; perhaps to be in the city so one can be the light shining in the darkness of the modern cityscape or other purposes our Lord has planned. Pray often and hope that Lord would give you His bidding to be carried out. Whether it is for you to withdraw and live in peace and carry the vigil and fight here, only the Lord knows.

Ask people to pay by bitcoin?

You can also do transactions on the grey market. Selling off of the books in a way that isn't actually illegal.

>>677255

he's a racemixing christcuck, your children will be fighting his muslim descendants. if he could see the wrong in what he says he wouldn't spew it

>>677170

So, you have to decide how to best serve the Lord. Let's look at some parables on exactly this issue:

<For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

-Parable of the Talents

<Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

-Matthew 24:45 et seq

I'm not suggesting you specifically need to do your trade, but you do have to work for the Lord. Witness the gospel. If your most effective method is making money and using that money to do God's work, do it. If your most effective method is doing less of your trade and knocking on doors, do it. You have to move as the Holy Spirit has called you. But what you're describing is the sin of acedia- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia read up on it and tell me if I've hit the nail on the head.

Thanks everyone.

This is useful anon >>678256 thank you. I'm not to acedia yet, but I'm starting to find some direction here. Thanks again fam.

what's printed on your bills and coins?

>>680429

There's a serial number and a denomination. Also some dude's signature and a picture of an old dead guy.

>>680445

Plus a pyramid, some stars which outline the star of the jew, and some weird occult stuff. Its pretty strange tbh

>>680403

I'm glad you thought it was useful; I went through something similar and had to think about it deeply myself. That's what I discovered when I started looking in the bible and doctrines for answers.

>>677170

Yes, but aphaty is not good.

>>680544

No, that's only on the $1 note.

>>677170

>wat do?

Rejoice. You're finally truly free.