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No but I doubt God would say no if you asked for your doggo once you get up there.

>>676310

Do dogs even have imortal souls? If they don't I think there isn't a way for them to go to Heaven or Hell

Some people who have, supposedly, had out of body experiences mentioned seeing their dogs in Heaven.

No. They don't have rational soul.

>Its this thread again

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I want my doggo to go to heaven

nobody has used scripture that answers the question.

in genesis 1 and 2, there is a difference between when God MADE his creation, and when he FORMED his creation.

also it is declared that it was man and woman who sinned having been beguiled by the serpent.

in the nt the bible talks about a literal resurrection, some unto life and some unto death.

since no instance illustrates that fauna and beasts have sinned other than, say, the serpent, it stands to reason that all of the oher beasts COULD be resurrected.

and also, in revelation the armies of God are on horses are they not?

all doggies go to heaven

>>676316

This is pretty much how I think it'll be too.

If God willed it you would see your pupper in heaven.

If he didn't will it, his decision would be flawlessly just and you couldn't argue the matter with him because you'd be wrong.

> But as it is written:

>“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,

>Nor have entered into the heart of man

>The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

>So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

>no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

I feel like no one on this board actually reads the bible…

>Revelation 22:15

Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates. 15But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

>>676310

Do insects go to heaven as well? I've killed a lot of spiders and ants.

>>676428

>he thinks they mean literal canines and not the human scoundrel interpretation

>>676430

Dude, it's literally written canine… κύνες

>>676432

Well I guess you're right, every animal can go to heaven except ones in the Family Canidae.

>>676433

Animals don't have souls, anon-kun…

>>676310

Can? Yes. With God all things are possible.

Will? I don't know. I'll find out at some point.

guys this dog literally understands the intrinsic value of fiat currency

but we don’t

NO DOGS ARE THE DOGS OF THE UNDERWORLD AND THE THREE HEADS OF THE BEAST THAT GUARD THE DOORS JUST LIKE OWLS AND SERPENTS THEY ARE THE ENEMIES TASTE OF BLOOD YUMY YUM YUM YUM TASTE TAHT TASTY BLOOD THEY THINK THAT THEY WILL FOOL YOU BUT THEY ARE DUMB MUTTS A TRUE CHRISTIAN AND A TRUE TRUTHSEEKER KNOWS THAT DOGS AR ELITERALLY SATAN THE BLACK DOG OF CURSED IMAGERY

>>676480

>no dogs are the dogs of the underworld. and the three heads of the beast that guard the doors, just like owls and serpents, they are the enemies taste of blood. yumy yum yum yum. taste that, tasty blood! they think that! they will fool you, but they are dumb mutts, a true christian, and a true truthseeker.

knows that!

dogs are eliterally,

satan the black

dog of cursed imagery

>>676501

>>676480

>Not sure if pagans or Muslims

>>676429

>spiders

Not in my paradise they don't

>>676537

>>676536

Calm down man. Seriously.

>>676544

I AM CALM

Isaiah 11:6-8

The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,

and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,

and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;

and a little child shall lead them.

The cow and the bear shall graze;

their young shall lie down together;

and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,

and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.

Assuming that isaiah 11 refers to heaven.

>>676428 does make a very good point, and dogs aren't on the list (even if wolves are). Knew that cats were better.

>>676316

I really hope this is true, my doggo (who was also my best friend) passed away suddenly and without warning during the night yesterday and really I'm in a terrible place right about now.

Would really appreciate some prayer fellas.

>>676583

Remember what Christ said, through God all things are possible. Don't give up hope bro

On one hand, only men bear the ancestral sin, so only men need redemption. Not animals.

Furthermore, only man is created in the image and likeness of God, and made to become by grace what God is by nature.

But at the same time, the apostle is clear that it is all of creation that is redeemed, glorified, repaired in Christ. That would necessarily include beasts too. And there are serious issues with the notion that the soul of animals ceases to exist when they die - God has created all things and declared them good, thus nothing can cease to exist or else God would be working against goodness.

I think that all living things - from your pet dog to that annoying mosquito from the other day - will be part of the new creation. How that will work, I don't want to know yet. I don't think they will be resurrected though, but re-created alongside the rest of the cosmos.

All dogs go to heaven :^)

Do you think doggos in heaven can talk? What would your doggo say to you?

Nope. They go straight to the resurrection.

>>676310

All Dogs go to Heaven. At lest according to a movie released in 1989

>>676583

Will do. May Christ's peace be with you

>>676583

I just sent a prayer to you brother in Christ.

I've got a dog (A Jack Russel) who now lives with us after my grandmother passed away earlier this year. I love him to bits and we've really grown close over these past months. I'm going to uni in a few months and i'm really not looking forward to being separated from my dog.

But enough about me. you'll be in my prayers through the rest of the day, and I hope it gets better for you anon. I truly do believe that our dogs, just like our loved ones in Christ, will be renewed at the Resurrection and the Return of our Lord.

May the peace of Christ be with you.

>>676460

underrated

No because they don't have a spirit to worship God see john 4:24, they do have souls which are entirely seperate things since they breath see genesis 6:17, revelation 16:3, and 1 thesselonians 5:23.

Only stupid Protestants think animals go to heaven

Animals don't have souls

I think I read something once about animals having reincarnating souls and traveling to the heavens to be messengers on humans' conduct. Would account more satisfactorily for the far greater level of death and suffering animals endure. If one were to get into a metaphysical discussion over it perhaps one could deduce that all the souls of the animal kingdom may perhaps be gathered into a singular spiritual mass like Goku's spirit bomb or distributed through some other manner assuming an end of the world scenario. In any case it's more satisfying than Pastor Anderson's view and similar views of other churches like the Laestadians about animals being just stupid souless beasts who don't deserve anything.

Well they probably don't go to heaven but recognizing an animals spirit is still good practice.

Modern mass consumer slaughter certainly isn't very honoring, that's for sure.

Back then, when famine was still a thing, and you couldn't just facelessly buy some meat in the supermarket it was a big deal to kill an animal, prepare it to be eaten and used for tools and fur.

Especially if it was something like a bear or a boar. People revered those and treated them with respect. Apologizing and thanking it for taking its body but promising to not ensnare its spirit or taint it otherwise.

They respected their quarry.

>>676932

>Well they probably don't go to heaven but recognizing an animals spirit is still good practice.

>Especially if it was something like a bear or a boar. People revered those and treated them with respect. Apologizing and thanking it for taking its body but promising to not ensnare its spirit or taint it otherwise.

Pooh off, fagan

>>676310

All dogs go to heaven. It was man's nature who fell by sin. Animals just followed us by God's will to serve us.

Source: actual Orthodox priest i once asked

>>676310

Soul of Dog is not immortal. And since it is not, they cease to exist the moment they die. So no Dogs in heaven. Nor some kind of resurrection of dogs because soul is form of body and since form is gone, there cannot be recreation of matter proper to form.

>>686373

>Nor some kind of resurrection of dogs because Jesus assumed only Human nature

FTFY

>>686384

Also this. But I meant resurrection in broader sense as if you could call recreation of soul resurrection..

>>676480

hoot

dogs can't share the beatific vision, but there may be 'creation' of some sort in heaven, perhaps we can just will creation into existence. however whenever i see a dead animal on the road i put the sign of the cross over them. i guess i'm just respecting the creature of these magnificent creatures.

also many dogs are bad, my dog bit me. i still have a scar from it. i later found out the dog was a jew though.

>>688590

*creator of these magnificent creatures.