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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a11310 No.675506

No man with crushed or severed genitals may enter the assembly of the LORD.

c11668 No.675508

…why would they be crushed. Did someone crush your wang, son?


d1e474 No.675510

By these are meant, in the spiritual sense, such as are barren in good works.


a11310 No.675513

>>675510

No, I believe it applies to eunuchs. Maybe it had to do with them swearing their allegiance to some king and not God.


308f6d No.675515

>>675513

But if it applies to them then it must also apply to people who simply lost their genitals in an accident or an attack from another man or animal.


2f5043 No.675520

>>675506

>The ceremonial law

>Relevant


6742bd No.675537

So, eunuchs can't be Levites. Noted.


b9433f No.675546

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/8z2p31/im_leaving_catholicism/

>Waaaah why won't the mean Catholics applaud me for mutilating myself by cutting my dick off!

I'm getting real tired of these people


5f56ec No.675548

>>675546

lol this is a black trans woman who recently converted to. these people seriously should just be stoned/killed. chrysostom was right. they do nothing useful for this world.


308f6d No.675550

>>675548

>these people seriously should just be stoned/killed

Repent heretic. Pray for them, debate them, help them find God, but don't torture and kill them. God doesn't command us to kill sinners, he commands us to bring them to him.


5f56ec No.675551

>>675550

shut up you idiot. st. john chrysostom, doctor of the church is a heretic? hahaha sure buddy.

>God doesn't command us to kill sinners

are you some pacifist prot? God literally has commanded people to kill sinners. Death penalty is totally fine and was literally commanded by God. you're actually using the word heretic to say there is a death penalty?

this is your brain on modernism


d8d93f No.675554

>>675550

Didn't Chrysostom say that homosexuals should be put to death?


308f6d No.675555

>>675551

>dude God commands us to have a blatant blood lust and kill sinners so they God can never be reunited with his own children

this is your brain on /pol/


c1022e No.675556

>>675550

>God doesn't command us to kill sinners

What? Have you ever read Leviticus? Almost every sin gets the death penalty, God has no qualms with capital punishment.


308f6d No.675560

>>675556

>>675554

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."68


93e8a9 No.675561

>>675520

>muh new testament covenant


cafa77 No.675562

>>675546

<It sounds like you agree with Pope Francis, but are disturbed by Catholics who attack him. That means you are a good Catholic. It is the Pope who is our shepherd and guide in this life, and every Catholic is obligated to submit to his judgment. So stay loyal to the Pope, and pray for the other poor sheep in the Church who have been disturbed by the wolves attacking our Supreme Pastor.

PAPISTS YES! this is a friendly joke btw

In all seriousness though, this is the top comment, and why trans people and those that support them are unironically shit. I pray that everyone on that cursed reddit will repent. It's all I can do at the moment.


308f6d No.675563

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>>675561

>literally putting the Talmud over Jesus


c1022e No.675565

>>675560

>Using the modernist post-Vatican 2 catechism

The catechism of the Council of Trent is far less handwringy over it

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/TenCommandments-fifth.shtml

>Another kind of lawful slaying belongs to the civil authorities, to whom is entrusted power of life and death, by the legal and judicious exercise of which they punish the guilty and protect the innocent. The just use of this power, far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this Commandment which prohibits murder. The end of the Commandment­ is the preservation and security of human life. Now the punishments inflicted by the civil authority, which is the legitimate avenger of crime, naturally tend to this end, since they give security to life by repressing outrage and violence. Hence these words of David: In the morning I put to death all the wicked of the land, that I might cut off all the workers of iniquity from the city of the Lord.


2f5043 No.675566

>>675561

>Muh I thought he meant mutilation by accident or disaster, not trannies

>>675563

>Confusing the Torah and the Talmud


d8d93f No.675567

>>675556

I'll point out that sin was removed by death before the New Covenant. Purification had to happen through death, so that sin would perish alongside man. This is the curse that Adam put on himself, and although death is not the will or the creation of God, God used death to cleanse creation (see: the Flood, the death penality under the Old Covenant, the merciless removal of the Canaanites…)

But under the New Covenant, purification happens through fire. There is the fire of the Holy Spirit, that cleanses our filth, forgives our faults, and divinizes us. There is also the fire of the Gehenna, where all evil will be sent and eternally destroyed, the second death.

As such, I don't think that the death sentence has room in the New Covenant, because Christ has defeated death by death and now purification of creation happens not through taking the life of sinners, but through Jesus, Who justifies some and condemns others.

It doesn't mean the death sentence is intrinsically evil (or else God wouldn't have commanded it before) but I don't think there's justification to be found for it under the New Covenant.


308f6d No.675568

>>675567

>expecting /pol/ larpers who just want to 'kill tiggers and faggots like based Hitler' to actually know about Christianity


d8d93f No.675571

>>675568

I mean, several great theologians of Christian history have been in support of the death sentence, usually for heresy. I'm not going to pretend I'm a more holy and smart man than any of them were. I just don't think that we can say "the death sentence is commanded under the Law of Moses so we should have it".


308f6d No.675619

>>675565

Vatican 2 is valid.


946fd6 No.675632

>it's a "let's execute sodomites but not the other offenders according to OT law" episode


eeee40 No.675696

>>675506

What was the context for this? You really couldn't go to church anymore if a camel squashed your balls off?


6742bd No.675698

>>675696

The "assembly of the lord" is the priestly class of Levites.


27d7da No.675700

>>675696

Priests cannot be physically maimed or disfigured in any way.


e69892 No.675704

>>675506

Y'all are slipping (Acts 8)

26 An angel of the Lord spoke to Philip: “Get up and go south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is the desert road.[d]) 27 So he got up and went. There was an Ethiopian man, a eunuch and high official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to worship in Jerusalem 28 and was sitting in his chariot on his way home, reading the prophet Isaiah aloud.

29 The Spirit told Philip, “Go and join that chariot.”

30 When Philip ran up to it, he heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you’re reading?”

31 “How can I,” he said, “unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. 32 Now the Scripture passage he was reading was this:

He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,

and as a lamb is silent before its shearer,

so he does not open his mouth.

33 In his humiliation justice was denied him.

Who will describe his generation?

For his life is taken from the earth.[e]

34 The eunuch said to Philip, “I ask you, who is the prophet saying this about—himself or someone else?” 35 Philip proceeded to tell him the good news about Jesus, beginning with that Scripture.

36 As they were traveling down the road, they came to some water. The eunuch said, “Look, there’s water. What would keep me from being baptized?”[f] 38 So he ordered the chariot to stop, and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him any longer but went on his way rejoicing.


836dc9 No.675705

>>675704

wheres acts 8:37?


e69892 No.675724

>>675705

Knew that was coming. It isn't present in.early Greek manuscripts but was known to some early patristics. Fair?


836dc9 No.675728

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>>675724

you know what im going to say: but the dra.

how could the romish church deceive so many people at the time for thinking it was in there?


e69892 No.675733

>>675728

I'm not a papist, Rome can do as it likes.


f45495 No.675734

>male genital mutilation is okay to base catholics!!!!


00310e No.675746

>>675563

>confusing the OT with the talmud

>thinking we should let trannies into the assembly of the Lord


00310e No.675747

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>>675632

Agreed. Race mixers and religion mixers get the rope too. Do it for Chad Jesus.


a11310 No.675754

>>675746

I'm sort of new to Christianity. I'm confused why there is a number of people who say the OT is null and void. Are they pulling wool over my eyes. The OT is the word of God, I see why I shouldn't follow it. Peter applied capital punishment to Ananias,

Doesn't Mathew say: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Unless Jesus says otherwise, such as divorcement laws and how all meats are clean now, we should continue to follow the OT, that's the way I see it.


e69892 No.675755

>>675754

What do you see in Acts 10 and Acts 15 on this?


e69892 No.675756

>>675754

Also, read Romans. The whole thing.


a11310 No.675757

>>675755

I'm only up to Acts 6 right now


e69892 No.675759

>>675757

Keep going. You'll see more as you read more.


00310e No.675760

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>>675754

>Unless Jesus says otherwise, such as divorcement laws and how all meats are clean now, we should continue to follow the OT, that's the way I see it.

The Catholic church and some Protestant sects see themselves as the Spiritual continuation of Israel. Israel was subject to the laws of OT. Therefore, the followers of spiritual Israel are also subject to those laws. And if anyone disagrees with me I'll start posting white Israelite stuff until you get it one way or another.


00310e No.675764

>>675754

>>675760

Just to clarify I do agree Jesus has authority to override stuff.


5b4b84 No.675765

Homos, trannies, and such are not just sinners. They didn't just have impure thoughts or tell a lie. They succumbed to the devil. When you chop your manhood off or let men pound you in the rear you're too far gone for redemption. they are agents of the devil. And the Jews are their priests. This heretical "turn a thousand cheeks for the demonic hordes is sickening. Kill them all. Let God sort it out.


a11310 No.675769

>>675765

Thou shalt not kill :p


6ba921 No.675771

>>675769

The correct translation is thou shalt not murder.


6833bf No.675789

>Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

>The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” (Acts 15:5-11)


1182bb No.679777

>>675632

>>675747

You two joke around about this too trivially for my liking. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Do not defame Jesus by ironically posting a picture and a post that misrepresents Him.


3ffb06 No.687731

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>>675506

>cutting your dick off


6fcace No.687739

>>675510

no

>>675506

It was about priesthood. Castrated could not be elevated above the level of Levite




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