/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>670415

Correct. Now what?

>>>/raddle/

>>670415

how do you define the word "racist". you do know that its a relatively new word that got its modern definition from the communist kike Trotsky?

The 'racists' on the board are just the post-boomer newbs from /pol/ trying to be edgy while subtly deciding between paganism and Christianity.

>>670418

Racism as a term, with its modern definition, existed as far back as 1902. Trostsky had nothing to do with coining it.

>>670425

"Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism." - first use of the word racism

Defining racism using its original definition is not unchristian in any way at all, because segregation and classism isnt unchristian

>Trostsky had nothing to do with coining it.

I never said he did. i said he invented the MODERN DEFINITION OF IT.

>>670431

but that has nothing to do with interracial marriage like what was posted in the OP. less than a hundred years ago interracial marriage was banned yet christians still believed that everyone no matter their race should be christian.

Reminder that most modern definitions of race come from Darwinism and evolution and thus anti-Christian.

>>670434

WTF I hate Paul now! What a racist Nazi!

>>670438

>because segregation…isnt unchristian

Depends why you are segregating. For example, even in the modern Church, there's far too few examples of sexual segregation which is desperately needed including in education endeavors.

>because…and classism isnt unchristian

Absolutely untrue!

"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, 'You sit here in a good place,' while you say to the poor man, 'You stand over there,' or, 'Sit down at my feet,' have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor man. Are not the rich the ones who oppress you, and the ones who drag you into court? Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called? If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself,' you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it." (James. 2:1-10 ESV)

>>670438

>i said he invented the MODERN DEFINITION OF IT.

But he didn't. It appeared under the modern definition in the OED in 1903 as a synonym of (scientific) racialism.

>Defining racism using its original definition is not unchristian in any way at all, because segregation and classism isnt unchristian

Going out of your way to defend them however, is. Dying of cancer isn't a sin, but preventing someone from getting treament is.

>less than a hundred years ago interracial marriage was banned yet christians still believed that everyone no matter their race should be christian.

Vain human tradition that makes others "less than" human. It is absolutely unchristian.

>>670443

segregating different races, ethnicites etc is not unchristian. it was done for thousands of years and has shown to be a much better way to govern people rather the alternative.

>"because…and classism isnt unchristian"

"Absolutely untrue!"

>gives bible passage about treating poor worse or different than the rich

i think you and i have different definitions of the term classism or maybe i shouldnt have used that term.

>>670448

>Yes he did.

No, he didn't. It predates him by about 30 years.

>>670450

>i think you and i have different definitions of the term classism or maybe i shouldnt have used that term.

Yeah that's probably the case. I mean if you treated all men from your own nation the same regardless of wealth or social status, and treated all men from other nations the same no matter how wealthy, then you would not be a respector of persons. If you treated all men the same and all women the same, you would not be a respector of persons either. You're just recognizing the differences between the groups.

>Marxist Lucifer King, Jr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PH4iMGbxFc

>>670453

>embed

>>670451

Yes he did. All the propaganda, the usage of, and the definition of racist as it is always used, comes from him. Nobody used it to mean what it means now, but it's nice of you to out yourself as one of them by arguing in defense of it.

>>670455

What the "power + privilege = racism" definition? Nobody outside the Ivory Tower and all clinging arrivistes there use it, because nobody else is taken in by such a narrow self-serving definition. Pretty much anybody you ask still uses the "Viewing a certain race(s) as superior to another" one.

If you talked to people IRL you might find this out.

>>670447

>But he didn't. It appeared under the modern definition in the OED in 1903 as a synonym of (scientific) racialism.

racism as a synonym of racialism isnt unchristian. its literally recognizing that different races exist. Do you think that modern definition of the term racist or racism is the same as 1903? ill answer for you. it isnt.

>Going out of your way to defend them however, is.

Your wrong, modernist. segregation and and a class system was a excellent and much more compassionate way that a society was governed. the way the world is governed now is the cancer not the way it was governed in the past.

>Vain human tradition that makes others "less than" human. It is absolutely unchristian.

where does banning interracial marriage make others ""less than"" human? Why did you use quotations marks when nobody said that? Why do you hate Tradition and old way of doing things?

Lenin, is that you?

>>670456

The supreme court uses it, that's how it defined so-called "protected groups" in the 1960's. These definitions are biased against the American people and need to be struck down. Nobody has the right to tell us who is "protected" from discrimination and who isn't a "protected group". It's absolutely derived from the communistic definition, as such it is discriminatory in its own right, and it needs to be struck down.

The problem isn't race realism and never was. "Racism" only means race realism that could benefit either Christians specifically or whites specifically. But if it benefits any other group, it isn't considered racist. That's why everyone has to have the token beneficiary who isn't in the aforementioned group——— or else. This started with Trotsky, who was a Jewish communist.

Nobody in the west used it to mean what it now means.

>>670457

>Do you think that modern definition of the term racist or racism is the same as 1903? ill answer for you. it isnt.

I think before this discussion goes any further you and/or that other guy actually need to provide the definition of racism that you disagree with, and one you accept, because so far no one has actually mentioned what it is, so we are essentially shadow boxing.

>segregation and and a class system was a excellent and much more compassionate way that a society was governed. the way the world is governed now is the cancer not the way it was governed in the past.

I think there's a little but more nuance to why the West is collapsing than removing the colour bar. I disagree that it was compassionate, too. Can you state why you think this was so?

For the record, I don't disagree on principle of people self-assembling around shared characteristics. If you want to have a straight white male only golf club, go ahead. I don't believe that a state has the right to debar or impose upon this.

>where does banning interracial marriage make others ""less than"" human? Why did you use quotations marks when nobody said that? Why do you hate Tradition and old way of doing things?

Can you provide a legitimate reason for banning interracial marriage that doesn't discount the complete humanity of another person?

>OP 1 post

This is a pagan bait thread.

Sage

>>670463

It isn't.

>>670460

>These definitions are biased against the American people and need to be struck down.

White Americans?

>Nobody has the right to tell us who is "protected" from discrimination and who isn't a "protected group".

I think that that is generally up to the group in question.

>>670467

The supreme court uses the term racist in the anti-American, progressive sense of the word. Meaning what I just described. It's not obscure, it's mainstream and backed up by force of arms by the jews sitting in the court system.

>White Americans?

It's biased against actual Americans. That's why they use the same exact law to "protect" (actually to benefit) illegal immigrants. And whose expense does all this come at? Actual Americans. Who benefits? Jews (their religion is deemed "secular"), sodomites, people who aren't even citizens of the country, and anyone else deemed a "protected group," of which the jews on the courts get to decide who is protected and who is not— And they will never side with the people of this country.

>I think that that is generally up to the group in question.

No it's up to the appointed members of the court system now, and it has been ever since the progressives took over the courts in the 1960's.

>>670415

So every antiwhite faggot is not Christian?

You cannot be tolerant and apathetic and be Christian. The moolies can pray back in Africa.

You don't need to be racist to enjoy white people more than you do other groups. You don't need to be racist to know that white people are experiencing a "soft" genocide in the west.

>>670505

If Jesus does not see race, why do you? Do you not follow Christ?

I never said anything about birth out of wedlock. If two married Christians of different races had children would that be wrong?

The problem is not "race mixing", the problem is the lack of Christianity and proper morals within Western Civilization. There are plenty of white people that engage in out of wedlock sex and have children out of wedlock, and it's just as much of an issue than if it was a white and a black person, or whatever "racial" group they happen to be.

>>670504

So would you rather be around white pagans or black christians?

Is this a Christian board or am I mistaken? Are you white first, and christian second?

>>670510

>So would you rather be around white pagans or black christians?

It depends on what "be around" means. I am a father to a toddler. I would want to raise my children around white people, even if they were pagans. The reasons for this being that it would be much safer, i.e. less crime, drug use, etc.

I really have nothing against black people at all. I respect black Christians who resist the toxic black culture in modern America.

>>670511

>I would want to raise my children around white people, even if they were pagans. The reasons for this being that it would be much safer, i.e. less crime, drug use, etc.

You do realize that the safety, lack of crime, and lack of drug use comes from Christian European culture, right? Look at how the pagans lived before Christianity came, they were dirty, they raped, pillaged and sacrificed animals to demons. Look at how Muslims live today. That's pagan society. What you're thinking of as a pagan is a white secularist that lives in a society based in Christianity and dabbles in spooky occult nonsense for fun.

Raising your child amongst pagans would ensure that they would themselves become pagans because they would have no christians around to worship with them, and inspire them to remain steadfast in their faith.

>I really have nothing against black people at all. I respect black Christians who resist the toxic black culture in modern America.

And yet you don't want to live around them because they're black. You'd rather live around demon worshippers because they're white. Do you not see the absurdity in that?

>>670512

>You do realize that the safety, lack of crime, and lack of drug use comes from Christian European culture, right?

When I think of Pagan culture, I am thinking of Idol-worship, like American celebrity culture, sports culture, the worship of sex, etc. As degenerated as this is, it is nowhere near as dysfunctional as American black culture, or in any of the places where blacks are the majority. Even in Christian parts of Africa, there is mass suffering at the hands of their militias slaughtering "witches" in the thousands and "enforcing" the 10 Commandments.

>they were dirty, they raped, pillaged and sacrificed animals to demons.

Yes, basically every culture did that in the bronze age. Primitive tribes today still do. I don't get what you mean by this.

>>670510

>If Jesus does not see race, why do you?

Where did Jesus say race is not a biological reality?

>If two married Christians of different races had children would that be wrong?

Not necessarily. It would depend on their motives, and whether they considered the medical consequences for the child.

>There are plenty of white people that engage in out of wedlock sex and have children out of wedlock, and it's just as much of an issue than if it was a white and a black person

They're both bad, but the fact that the child of race mixing is going to start their life with a compromised immune system as well as being a bastard seems to make the latter just a hair worse.

Why not both?

Be Christian and acknowledge that a great number of people from one race does indeed do a specific thing.

Not all indians poo on the streets but a great number do.

Not all black and gypsies steal but a great number of them do.

Not all asians work very hard but a great number of them do.

It's not racist to guard yourself against a potential thereat.

>>670472

definitely

>Do you care more about biology or God?

The favorite strawman of retards.

It is completely legitimate to not to allow entrance to a group in a nation, based on race. Feel free to go to non white countries and help them there.

>>670522

>>670522

Legitimate based on what? Your feelings or God's will?

>>670519

>Jesus said that we are all gods children through faith in him, so "biological reality" means nothing.

Is that what you would say to a sodomite?

>Medical consequences should not stop a child from being born, because children are a reward from God.

<Rape should not stop a child from being born, because children are a reward from God.

<Therefore rape is good.

>Do you support murdering babies in the womb

No, and that is a completely different topic.

>There are *(spurious) studies that say mixed kids are healthier and there are *(reliable) studies that say mixed kids are unhealthier

And mixed couples have an obligation to their future children to try, and understand that literature to the best of their ability. To not do so is to sin against them.

>relying on scientific papers before God is insane because science is a fickle thing that changes with time, whereas God is eternal.

And where exactly does God endorse mindlessly race mixing?

Racism is just a tool os psychological warfare against whites. The use of racism in propaganda is meant to create a feeling of guilty conscience that makes one more malleable to liberal propaganda.

It works this way: the "racism" feeling in a sense is a natural one that happens in all people of all races to some degree. It is merely the continuation of the survival instinct, to prefer what is familiar to what is strange and to seek those alike you. Constant "anti-racist" propaganda though creates a feeling that those feelings are a "sin" (one of the modern sins alongside with misoginy), and the one afflicted by this is more likely to surrender to propaganda and bad agendas.

Obama was basically elected like this.

If you effective racism like gassing people, then yes, that would be a sin, but not what I described. And in that case, anyway, the most distinct characteristic of the sin is killing, not really hating someone because of their race.

I'm not even white.

>>670530

Also, OP should be banned, he always opens this thread without even specifying what the hell "racism" is.

This is shitposting.

>>670523

Legitimate based on the authority of the nation to set rules to protect itself and avoid invasions or the loss of the native population.

But at least your intentions are now clear, snake, so you can drop your "Christ would definitely be a leftist like me" garbage.

>>670519

Ok I wasn't gonna say anything but now that you're dragging scripture into this, I have no choice. All you're doing here is acting "holier than thou," because nobody here is advocating genocide or enslavement or any such thing like that. We deserve the right to be able to live in a nation with our own people, just like we can live with our own family and not another, and you are picking a fight against people who are doing the right thing right now.

You're basically saying that we have to live in an open borders society and pretend not to understand the ethnic boundaries that exist, and that is no different than the demands of the most radical feminists and sodomites who insist there must be no difference between man and woman. This is you as well, but cloaked in the degenerated state of modern acceptance. In reality you're no different from the feminists. After all, you use the same scriptures they do, Galatians 3:28 says men and women are equal value, and you turn around and say there must be no recognition of natural gender (even though it's built into us) and we must march for social equality, just like the progressives in the 1960's and the radical feminists today. Only difference is your form of madness is more socially acceptable. In a few decades the same might be said of progressive gender theory. Especially with people like you around. And your kind will be right behind it, pushing the talmudic values behind a cloak of social acceptability, because let's face it, it's the easiest thing in the world to be progressive and egalitarian. And that's all you are, another useful idiot, but the difference is you actually had the nerve to inject scripture into your empty rhetorics. No respector of persons? Did you not read this post? >>670452

>These were all things that white pagans did.

It doesn't matter. I don't want to be forcibly diversified. You can't make me. And according to the Bible, divided into nations is the natural order of things in the world, not what you're suggesting. You're fighting against nature here.

>(we do both believe that Christianity is the true religion, right?)

Yes Biblical Christianity, which is why I take exception to your abuse of scripture when you don't follow it.

>Do you care more about biology or God?

God made biology and made it for a reason. Are you some sort of dualist gnostic or what?

>And it certainly isn't Christian to completely reject a group of people because of their actions

Now you're just railing accusations.

>>670443

>using Ken Ham in any debate

Very ill-advised, given his rather checkered track record when dealing in other matters.

>>670519

>They do that "specific thing" because they have not been properly exposed to the teachings of Christianity.

>And as Christians we should spread the gospel to them so that they stop committing those sinful acts, rather than shunning them.

It is a noble and good thing to have ALL humans on earth Christian. However that is not the case in the real world. So yeah, there will still be pooping on streets and high crime rates.

>And it certainly isn't Christian to completely reject a group of people because of their actions, if Christ had that attitude we'd all be destined to suffer for all of eternity because we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God.

Guard yourself =/= reject people

I doubt you casually stroll in bad neighbourhoods with the latest iphone 10 in your hand.

Listen, i don't know from what soft couch you are writing this but idolatry won't disappear even if the whole world is made Christian. The race debate can be solved through well thought political actions. Christianity can by itself help people get out of mess but that number is lower than expected.

Telling people they should stop seeing colors is stupid.

Facts are facts whether you like it or not.

I've been in very bad places to spread the word of God and let me tell you that unless some actual political actions are put in place there will still be problems.

The fact remains, blacks commit more crimes than whites. Going in the hood and telling people they should stop sinning otherwise they will end up in hell will surely end bad.

>>670546

>It is a noble and good thing to have ALL humans on earth Christian. However that is not the case in the real world. So yeah, there will still be pooping on streets and high crime rates.

The "real" world is the modern world of secularism and degeneracy. We can change the world through faith in Christ. Nothing is impossible through Jesus Christ.

>Guard yourself =/= reject people

You can protect yourself and at the same time welcome people into your fold. We shouldn't just let people live in sin, we should show them the proper way to live.

>I doubt you casually stroll in bad neighbourhoods with the latest iphone 10 in your hand.

That's true, fair enough. Still, we shouldn't simply allow people to sin, they need help and we should at least try to help them, rather than saying, "Let the moolies pray in Africa, I don't care".

>Listen, i don't know from what soft couch you are writing this but idolatry won't disappear even if the whole world is made Christian.

Anything is possible through Jesus Christ, and I'd rather have a world full of imperfect Christians than a world full of pagans, atheists, and heretics. We should strive for this.

>The race debate can be solved through well thought political actions

I highly doubt that, considering we've been trying to do that for hundreds of years and consistently failing.

>Telling people they should stop seeing colors is stupid.

So Galatians 3:28 is stupid? If we are all one in Christ, why care about the colors of peoples skin?

>Facts are facts whether you like it or not.

Empirical facts of men will never be able to match the beauty and truth of God's words.

>I've been in very bad places to spread the word of God and let me tell you that unless some actual political actions are put in place there will still be problems.

Secular politics got us into this mess in the first place. We had a black president, literally the most powerful office in the world, and he was totally incapable of fixing the black community. Only through God can these issues be solved. It may not happen in our generation, or our children's generation, or our children's children's generations, but we must not give up, because the second we do the world will fall into degeneracy, darkness, and sin. Things can and will always get worse unless we remain vigilant in our faith and reject what the lies that the world offers us. Focusing on race over religion will not get us there.

>The fact remains, blacks commit more crimes than whites. Going in the hood and telling people they should stop sinning otherwise they will end up in hell will surely end bad.

I mean, you'd be kind of surprised. Muslims and heretics like the Black Israelites are very successful in the hood because they can manipulate blacks through the "oppressed victim" narrative. We can convince them through showing them the truth, and it doesn't have to be us literally walking into the hood, we can use the internet as a tool in order to show them what God really said and what God truly wants. And also, you act as if black people are this monolith, there are plenty of black christians in the hood already and not all of them are sinful degenerates. I guarantee you that there are many blacks that see the world the same way we do, but are unable to express themselves because this secular Godless society we live in goes against the truth. The internet may be pivotal in giving those blacks more of a voice.

There was a time in this country when blacks were extremely devout christians (basically before the civil rights era in the 1960's) and I believe that we can bring them back to that point because through Christ all things are possible.

>>670540

>Propaganda is only an issue because people feed into it,

You mean like you when you opened this thread with the term invented by an antichrist to be used for antichrist purposes. Don't act all innocent. You yourself are feeding into it every time someone opens this thread and reads that opening post. You made this thread using that language. Don't pretend you aren't pushing progressive politics with that opening line, you wicked, repulsive serpent.

>We need nations that are made for Christians and protect the interests of Christians,

Nation is an extension of the family. You can't redefine words to your liking here.

>I never mentioned anything about borders at all, and that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand,

Yes it does because it's "racist" not to have open borders and you put it in your opening line. Maybe if you wanted to have something reasonable to say you wouldn't purposely inject politically charged, antichrist words in the OP, the fact is you've chosen your side and even now you're trying to defend it.

>Literally never said that and do not believe that at all, but ok.

You're the same as them, I'm putting you together with them.

>Why would I treat another Christian different based on where his ancestors come from? That is insane.

I dunno, why would I honor my father and mother? Why would I provide for my own, especially they of my own house? I guess the word of God is insane to you because you act like this is being a respector of persons when ITS MY OWN FAMILY.

>Divided nations are not the same as divided races.

Nation is an extension of family. That's why when they merged a nation with a state they called the result a nation-state, because originally, the two weren't the same thing. Rather nation-states are the result of saying states should be divided by nation, and in order to do that, you have to first know what nations the people are in, thus proving their objective existence as nations are tied to blood outside of being a mere piece of territory.

>"Made it for a reason", how could possibly know why God does what he does? You're not God.

I know it exists for a reason, just like man and woman exists for a reason. You are fighting against nature to demand that people go against it and enforce political exactions against those that stand in your way.

>I'm saying that if Christ had that same attitude, he'd want nothing to do with us because we all do sinful things that damage each other and the world as a whole.

Guess what though, Christ also protected those whom he was given from the wicked ones. John 18:9. You are attempting to tell people this is wrong because it's considered "racist" to protect the weak and innocent that were entrusted to you from outside invaders which have hostile intent. And you want to overlook that, at the expense of our own, who can't stand up for themselves. And really just to make yourself look good and tolerant because it's very socially acceptable to be that way and to shirk responsibility and play dumb to it.

>>670551

>Secular politics

When i say well thought polical actions i am thinking about a Christian-ethostate :))) .

You have a big heart christanon and the blacks going in hoods to spread the good news actually works BUT never think the whole world will at one point be Christian. It is a sad truth and i agree that it would be posible if God wills it. God wants all people believe in His son Jesus but free will has it's downsides.

We live in a post -Christian era and the leaders of the most powerful countries are either softcore atheists or hardcore satanists. That is why we can't have nice things. Start believeing in conspiracy theories (not all of them, i recommend the jewish and masonic ones).

The solution to the world problems? Make as many people good Christians. Many but not all. If you go full DEUS VULT these days you will end up scaring people. As for the race thing, it takes a lot of funds and voluntary work for someone to start trusting you. Braging about a guy on a cros is not what starving people want to hear. I've been places. They only listen to the preachers in order to recieve aid not because they acutally are interested.

Also if you really want to evanghelise make sure you teach children. You'll find adults are stubborn. Educate children and make sure they get the right message and are offered a chance. Other than the things i said there is not much to be done. Convertion is a hard process and doesn't involve only knowing the Gospel, it's also politics, economy, hard work and education of future generations.

>670552

So using a term to describe something makes me a "wicked repulsive snake"? We all know what racism is, it's the notion that distinct races exist and we should treat people differently based on those perceived differences, you'd rather argue against the term rather than argue against the notion.

>Nation is an extension of the family. You can't redefine words to your liking here.

Right, we need a nation made up of a family of christian brothers and sisters. Unless you consider family to be only those that are literally blood related to you, which is goes against the bible. Matthew 12:50: "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother". Any Christian that truly has faith in Christ is a brother to me no matter where they came from, especially in this atheistic time we're living in.

>Yes it does because it's "racist" not to have open borders and you put it in your opening line.

Never said that, don't agree with that. We need a closed borders nation based entirely in Christianity that only allows Christians to live within it. You're arguing with an imaginary liberal progressivist.

>Maybe if you wanted to have something reasonable to say you wouldn't purposely inject politically charged, antichrist words in the OP, the fact is you've chosen your side and even now you're trying to defend it.

Lol, come on dude, you're just being autistic over the word "racism" at this point. We know what racism is, you can try and twist the definition around, but in reality people know what I'm talking about.

>You're the same as them, I'm putting you together with them.

I'm not, and you have no proof of that.

>I dunno, why would I honor my father and mother? Why would I provide for my own, especially they of my own house? I guess the word of God is insane to you because you act like this is being a respector of persons when ITS MY OWN FAMILY.

Literally never said that you shouldn't do those things, I simply said that you shouldn't treat people differently because of their race. Once again, you're arguing against a point I never made.

>Nation is an extension of family. That's why when they merged a nation with a state they called the result a nation-state, because originally, the two weren't the same thing. Rather nation-states are the result of saying states should be divided by nation, and in order to do that, you have to first know what nations the people are in, thus proving their objective existence as nations are tied to blood outside of being a mere piece of territory.

That may have been true in the past, but is it true anymore? By your definition of nations being founded in blood, most of them came into existence before Christianity, so why should we still adhere to those older standards? We should create a truly Christian nation now, not try to continue nations based in tribalism.

>I know it exists for a reason, just like man and woman exists for a reason

"A" reason, but you don't know "THE" reason, all you can do is guess and pretend you know, because you're not God. You should follow the bible and stop assuming the reasons God does what he does.

>You are attempting to tell people this is wrong because it's considered "racist" to protect the weak and innocent that were entrusted to you from outside invaders which have hostile intent. And you want to overlook that, at the expense of our own, who can't stand up for themselves.

I literally have not said that at all, I'm simply saying, once again, you should not judge people purely based on where they happened to have come from. Not everyone that is of a different race than you has "hostile intent", and you shouldn't walk around with this paranoid outlook on life. Love God, trust God and spread his word. I also stated that we should expel muslims from our nation, so I'm definitely not against the idea of protecting us from outside invaders, I just base "outside invaders" on what they believe rather than their particular race.

>And really just to make yourself look good and tolerant because it's very socially acceptable to be that way and to shirk responsibility and play dumb to it.

Dude, if I wanted to "look good" in the modern world, why would I be a Christian? I don't care about being tolerant, I care about being a good follower of Christ. I'm totally against "shirking responsibility", I see it as our duty to spread the word of Christ because I see how it improved my life, and other peoples lives. If a lost person like myself can find new life in Jesus Christ, anyone can, and we should help them get there.

>>670560

>You have a big heart christanon and the blacks going in hoods to spread the good news actually works BUT never think the whole world will at one point be Christian. It is a sad truth and i agree that it would be posible if God wills it. God wants all people believe in His son Jesus but free will has it's downsides.

Indeed, this is true.

>We live in a post -Christian era and the leaders of the most powerful countries are either softcore atheists or hardcore satanists. That is why we can't have nice things. Start believeing in conspiracy theories (not all of them, i recommend the jewish and masonic ones).

I'm already there with you when it comes to the Jew and Freemason conspiracies. Still, I feel like we can defeat these evils, I mean look at how much has changed in the world in the last couple of years, it's now common sense to most people that the elite are fully corrupt, exposing their disgusting satanic ways can bring people closer to God. I never would have thought 10 years ago that we'd be living in a world where a politician was exposed for worshipping Moloch, things have changed immensely.

>As for the race thing, it takes a lot of funds and voluntary work for someone to start trusting you. Braging about a guy on a cros is not what starving people want to hear. I've been places. They only listen to the preachers in order to recieve aid not because they acutally are interested.

>Also if you really want to evanghelise make sure you teach children. You'll find adults are stubborn. Educate children and make sure they get the right message and are offered a chance. Other than the things i said there is not much to be done. Convertion is a hard process and doesn't involve only knowing the Gospel, it's also politics, economy, hard work and education of future generations.

Fair enough, you have more experience in that than I do.

>>670418

/thread

>>670497

>Do you honestly believe that Jesus Christ, god in the flesh, would tell people of two different "races" to not have children because their children wouldn't be "pure"?

Why not? What is so bad about not racemixing?

>Some of you on this board seem to care more about your race and nationality than Jesus Christ

Every sane person cares about both. History has proven that Christian morals are best upheld in ethnically homogenous societies, and are absolutely annihilated in melting pots. USA and Brazil are the best examples of zero Christian virtues.

>>670415

I cannot be a Christian and hate others because of their race.

I'm perfectly fine acknowledging they are more stupid in average compared to whites.

Hate and discrimination are wrong, accepting truth about them is not.

We as western christians have a duty to guide our inferiors for their best, while allowing the best among them to emerge.

>>670512

Literally the Herodes Law. Either get sacrificed by pagans or get killed by gangs.

>>670569

>History has proven that Christian morals are best upheld in ethnically homogenous societies, and are absolutely annihilated in melting pots.

BUT DONT WORRY GOYS DIVERSITY AND MULTICULTURALISM TOTALLY ISNT SATANIC OR ANYTHING

>>670415

God Forbids Mixing Of The Races

>>670701

I like how Christians can't explain the correlation of diversity and the rise of atheism. Reminder that racial diversity + neighbourhood = distrust + asociality = atheism

>>670707

Christian liberals*

>>670716

>Christianity is a minority among whites now.

no it isn't

>People are waking up and returning home to their roots, the real European Faith's.

Unless by "real European faith's" you mean gay atheism, no they aren't.

>>670718

Pew Research Center already broke the news bud. Christianity is dying among whites. There are plenty of other paths for us to follow that doesn't involved following a foreign deity and their "chosen people" who happened to be the most vile, disgusting people on Earth.

Just look how your fellow black Christians think about you, if you happen to be white.

>>670540

>There is a massive difference between being born of a certain race, or "mixed race", and being a sodomite.

Aaaaand you missed my point. We are talking about whether the actions of the parents are righteous or not, we are not talking about the value of the child which is not diminished by the circumstances of its birth. My point was that just as a man must consider the biological facts concerning a potential sexual partner to avoid sodomy, so must a black man consider the biological facts concerning a potential sexual partner to avoid doing harm to his future children.

>So, no, I would tell the sodomite to repent for his sins and to stop choosing to sin.

And I would say the same to someone who is considering race mixing without thinking of the consequences for their children.

>So do you think we should murder children because they happened to be born of rape?

No I wouldn't, I'm 100% pro-life. Stop overlooking what I've already addressed when its convenient for your argument >>670528

>so why bother appealing to science when you could go by the word of God

Where does scripture specifically address the healthiness of mixed race children?

>I asked you if two Christians of two different races get married and have children, how could you possibly, as a christian, have an issue with that?

If they've considered the consequences for the child, and done everything in their power to prepare for them then its probably ok, though I'm still suspicious. However as I said before this is probably less than 1% of race mixing today.

>You appeal to science and the world, I'm going by the word of God.

Again, where exactly does the scripture address any of this?

I think your problem is that you're trying to turn me into some kind of child hating radical when its clear that I'm not. I just want people to put a little thought, and preparation into having children.

What's the consensus on mixing races?

>>670760

There is none, but its still wrong in most cases.

>>670569

That was a dishonest way of phrasing that question. You can choose to breed with whatever race you please, but don’t proclaim it as unlawful in the gospel dispensation.

>>670415

>Martin Looter Coon, the atheist, communist adulterer and model of Christian living

>>670461

>Can you provide a legitimate reason for banning interracial marriage that doesn't discount the complete humanity of another person?

Very simple, ethnic identity and nominal homogeneity are the bedrock of stable social relations and cohesion, and thus of functional society, and thus of public faithfulness, and thus of personal Godliness on a societal scale, etc, etc. A better question honestly would be, what's a popular reason that DOES deny the complete humanity of other races? Unless you directly declare them sub-human, even the rationale of "I hate n iggers, racemixing should be banned" doesn't deny their humanity.

>>670540

Are you purposefully dishonest or just dumb and obtuse? Every one of your posts ITT is just so much projection and blather about any concern which anyone in their right mind knows is legitimate being "of the world." Well newsflash, we live in the world and ensuring the welfare of our family who live here with us is our moral responsibility, and the fact that you deny what all evidence and sense says about this issue proves you an idiot or a liar (who's spent the entire thread casting aspersions on the faith of the majority of the board baselessly, no less).

tldr; You cannot be a retard or a faggot and make threads on /Christian/, pick one or the other

>>670476

>If you get triggered when you see mixed-race couples you're goofy.

i do get triggered by this

Im mixed race

>>670869

Sorry, I thought this was Christian board, but now I see it's basically just a typical white nationalist chan board that larps as Christian, I'll leave you all to your hatred.

>>670882

Thats nice.

>>670540

alright, commie faggot, if you believe all that shit then you're free to do whatever and have your afterlife if you're so convinced. but leave the rest of us out of it, we don't need braindead dipshits like you shilling for the genocide of your own race

Daily reminder that the sin of the Tower of Babel was pride (trying to build a tower to Heaven, beyond arrogant), not that all the races were united.

God confused their languages as a punishment for their gross arrogance, not their unity.

Besides, Pentecost reversed Babel.

Not that I condone race mixing in general. There are plenty of valid reasons not to do so.

>>670951

even if christianity were true and all that shit that you faggots believe, why would the god want people to destroy what he created through race mixing? saying race mixing isn't a sin is like saying burning the rainforest isn't a sin- sure, the bible might not mention it, but it's still objectively wrong

>>670952

>why would the god want people to destroy what he created through race mixing?

Friendly reminder all humanity stems from the same primordial parents.

What matters to God is repentance and faith, not blood at the end of the day.

Besides, if we're going to be fully consistent, people of different ethnic and cultural backgrounds shouldn't marry and have kids together.

Americans shouldn't marry Canadians, Germans shouldn't marry Swiss, Russians shouldn't marry Ukrainians, etc.

But hey, I don't ever see people condemn cultural and ethnic mixing.

>>670955

>What matters to God is repentance and faith, not blood at the end of the day.

literally everything does not revolve around god, ffs

and even if it did, that doesn't mean we can't take good care of the Earthly realm while also addressing spiritual concerns. I wouldn't be so bothered by christcucks if they didn't insist on this "welp we're going to heaven anyway so who gives a fucc about anything? let the white race die lmao just pray"

>Besides, if we're going to be fully consistent, people of different ethnic and cultural backgrounds shouldn't marry and have kids together.

>Americans shouldn't marry Canadians, Germans shouldn't marry Swiss, Russians shouldn't marry Ukrainians, etc.

they shouldn't, everyone should stay within their own ethnic group, even down to localities like villages

>But hey, I don't ever see people condemn cultural and ethnic mixing.

because it's not nearly as bad to mix two different peoples that are both of good quality than to mix one of good quality with one of bad quality

>>670951

True, but God still created humans to be attracted to others of their own race. Widespread race mixing is a relatively new phenomenon brought about by anti-Christian ideas of multiculturalism and everyone being exactly the same. I'm not one of those who thinks the white race is the most important thing in the world, races superior to any race living today probably existed and went extinct millennia ago(just look at the lifespans of the antediluvian people or even even many succeeding generations of postdiluvian people), but every race and culture exists because of God and to completely destroy any of those cultures, let alone erase all of them by mixing them all together, diminishes the breadth of God's creation.

>>670415

What about a racialist?

race realism is true. races are different.

racial preferences are fine.

racial hatred and racial animosity is evil, specially if it dehumanizes the other.

anyone who hates other races has a twisted worldview, no way around it.

>>670869

>Martin Looter Coon, the atheist, communist adulterer and model of Christian living

Not an argument

>Very simple, ethnic identity and nominal homogeneity are the bedrock of stable social relations and cohesion

Wrong, a healthy, Godly society is established by one thing alone, the same thing that establishes families and home: fear of the Lord and acquiring His wisdom (Deut. 7:12-14, Jos. 20:14-15, Prov. 1:7, 3:33, 8:15-16, 11:11). Ethnicity does not factor in at all.

> "I hate n iggers, racemixing should be banned" doesn't deny their humanity.

The audacity of your delusions! Instead of praying for your enemies, you just call them a nig***. encourage non-white eugenics, and call it a day. Such hatred, without even a possibly just reason such as sin, is anathema to God (Mat. 5:22, James 3:9) At least hate a person because of the sins he commits and not because he's black, blue, or whatever spectrum of the rainbow his skin color is or wherever Ancestry.com claims his great-times-7-grandfather came from. You delude yourself if you think you have Christ while expressing this hatred (1 John 3:10-18). Turn to Christ and live!

>>670959

>literally everything does not revolve around [G]od, ffs

How do you sleep every night?

>I wouldn't be so bothered by [Christians] if they didn't insist on this "welp we're going to heaven anyway so who gives a [dam] about anything?

You are deluding yourself, you and every pagan-larper on this site. Even the few dispensationalist Christians, God help them, who expectantly wait for a rapture don't entirely ignore duties God commands them to accomplish, including taking care of neighbor. Maybe not at the extent that God himself desires, but better than your imagined boogie-man.

> let the white race die lmao just pray

Prayer is powerful, but you don't care anyways, so why try convincing the mental-spiritual equivalent of a brick wall.

>because it's not nearly as bad to mix two different peoples that are both of good quality than to mix one of good quality with one of bad quality

Read this gem from Steve Hays: https://triablogue.blogspot.com/2018/07/freakasaurus.html. This is your mindset in what you just said. Madness, God save you.

This >>671051

Race realism is nowadays condemned as racism. Basically implying there are any differences at all is condemned as racism.

Also >>670415 go back to reddit. This is a shit thread. You don't even define the word 'racism'. Today the 'definitions' vary from 'there are differences' to 'hatred'. Racist is a nonsense term since it has no stable definition and most people think only europeans can be racist.

Go back to reddit instead of creating bait threads

>>671232

What about Samaritans, they were once related but act in an entirely different manner.

>>671234

I hadn't known they still existed. On wikipedia it says their current population is less than a thousand, as such I wouldn't know of their influence and their acts. If the Samaritans are however trying to act like Biblical Jews then they would treat foreigners with kindness, something that the Talmud believing 'Jews' wouldn't be able to comprehend.

>>670515

>Even in Christian parts of Africa, there is mass suffering at the hands of their militias slaughtering "witches" in the thousands and "enforcing" the 10 Commandments.

I see a similar dysfunctional understanding of Christianity when looking at liberal 'Christians' who support abortion and homosexuality. I have my own theories as to why blacks commit more crime than anyone else but I hope I'm wrong in them. God will reveal everything in the end and we are to preach to all the nations.

>>670415

Good point. All Christians are exempt from being accused of racism because its not possible.

>>670515

>militias slaughtering "witches" in the thousands and "enforcing" the 10 Commandments.

You mean the LRA that's led by a self proclaimed spirit medium? The one that goes against the teaching of the Ten Commandments

>>671237

>be swamptigger

>for 10.000 years of Civilization literally the most backwards place on earth

>get Christianity

>become leader of Civilization

>lose a world war because you're stupid

<muh Christianity has destroyed us

German anti-Christians don't have a leg to stand on.