e064bd No.670145
a9aa8c No.670192
>>670143
>The call that saved unborn children
068d20 No.670198
>>670197
>>use protection
No.
50e2aa No.670199
What an awesome kid
>>670197
his dying wish should have been
>forced castration
d6f7bf No.670201
>>670197
Or...you know...you can just not be a degenerate and have sex for procreation...you know...like its SUPPOSED to be.
d8e6c9 No.670203
>>670197
Protestant/Orthodox degenerates get out.
d6f7bf No.670205
>>670203
Papist mongoloids,
BEGONE
b4d26a No.670206
>>670143
What a real human bean. We need more like him.
1da2b2 No.670209
>>670197
>No life > a bad life
I suppose you'll be defending suicide next.
0c6bb8 No.670235
>>670198
why do us /christians/ have to be so stupid like this?
>abbortion is bad! pro choice!
Oh okay so lets prevent that!
>NO!!!!! PROTEKSHUNNN BADDDDDDDDD
what the? you want everyone pregnant all the time? next you will tell me
>NO SEXXXXXX EVERRRRR
I'm here all the time and I'm sick of you whoever you are, you're a part of the very problem you're complaining about.
5cbb21 No.670240
8f28a2 No.670241
>>670235
He's right though. Not against concept of ekonomia, but primary purpose of sex is procreation. Pleasure is just an addition to encourage procreation. Protection will most likely encourage more degeneracy and people will forget that primary motive of it is to have children.
450738 No.670247
>>670235
> You need to do this sin in order to prevent another sin
God doesn’t work that way
8f28a2 No.670250
>>670247
Like extermination of Canaanites didn't prevent their degeneracy to spread.
Or Esther marrying pagan king didn't prevent extermination of the Jews.
Also no, it isn't categorised as sin in the Bible.
>Inb4 story of Onan
No, it has different context
2523ba No.670255
>>670235
Just don't have sex. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that?
5428f2 No.670257
>>670143
The only way of reducing teenage abortion is by lowering the marriage age to 14-16 and then have intercourse for the sole purpose of pro-creation (marriage between their same ages of course, don't get any ideas you pedos)
4c1c31 No.670258
>>670235
you're an immoral person
ea54db No.670264
>>670258
I'm immoral? You're pro-life as we should all be but you're anti-protection which amounts to creating new life in situations where it should be avoided. People have sex because it feels good. Some people enjoy sex with a person they love but they do not want babies because they don't have enough money to give them a happy and healthy life. If you're pro-life you have to be pro-protection or you're creating a situation where people who shouldn't have kids are having them and then restorting to abortion because they're afraid. Then you show up again at the abortion clinic holding signs "BAN ABBORTION!" like you're so righteous and high and mighty and holier than thou for essentially getting them into that mess in the first place. You can't have it both ways, That is what's immoral. You're literally playing with peoples lives and THAT I can not stand for as a christian.
2523ba No.670268
>>670264
Are you stupid or pretending to be retarded? Just don't have sex, sex is for creating life, not for hedonistic pleasure. Why are you even here if you aren't even a /christian/ but a hedonist who thinks that God wants you to murder sperm in a condom or slay a newborn soul with a pill?
884b9a No.670269
eed627 No.670270
>>670264
>as a christian
oy vey, as a goy- i mean christian i think we should let the immigrants in, didnt jesus say we should completely destroy everyone gene pool and race so people are atomised and easy to control?
I wonder why 200 years ago every 14 year old didn't need an abortion, what has changed in modern times? Why are these children going out and winnie the pooh each-other relentlessly?
2523ba No.670271
>>670269
I didn't stutter.
ea54db No.670279
>>670268
>Are you stupid or pretending to be retarded? Just don't have sex, sex is for creating life, not for hedonistic pleasure. Why are you even here if you aren't even a /christian/ but a hedonist who thinks that God wants you to murder sperm in a condom or slay a newborn soul with a pill?
Okay but if you don't have sex just hedonistic pleasure then you must go fully hardcore christian and never eat any food that tastes good. you must avoid all spices and only the most bland food without any flavor at all so that you may avoid all hedonistic pleasure from the food.
>>670270
I'm anti immigration and a Trump supporter.
>>670271
whether you have sex or not, eventually the sperm in your system eventually die and are replaced by new fresh sperm by the body. You're a murderer by your own standards as well as by the design of God himself. by that logic at least.
2523ba No.670282
>>670279
>don't have sex just hedonistic pleasure then you must go fully hardcore christian and never eat any food that tastes good. you must avoid all spices and only the most bland food without any flavor at all so that you may avoid all hedonistic pleasure from the food.
Strawman, people who have sex are doing it for pleasure instead of the actual use of it.
>eventually the sperm in your system eventually die and are replaced by new fresh sperm by the body.
Then it isn't murder, it's natrual death. When you rub the snake and release you commit murder.
3ea6d0 No.670284
>itt, people who don't know meaning of murder
Nice
3ea6d0 No.670285
>>670282
Also, during ordinary sex you also commit """murder""" since only one out of hundreds of thousands will fertilize egg, where others will die.
2523ba No.670286
>>670285
If at least one sperm makes it then the rest didn't die in vain, nimrod.
3ea6d0 No.670288
>>670286
Sperm is not alive in the first place, nimrod
2523ba No.670289
>>670288
>killing the beginning of life isn't alive at all
068d20 No.670290
>the mental gymnastics in this thread
201387 No.670291
>>670235
If you are not open to the possibility of having kids then do not have sex. Only intellectually stunted people do not understand this.
2523ba No.670293
>being a hedonist that thinks sex should be the answer for everything
c26ae4 No.670311
>>670143
Look how serene he is, knowing this life is not everything.
This is how a Christian dies.
ea54db No.670321
>>670282
>don't have sex just hedonistic pleasure then you must go fully hardcore christian and never eat any food that tastes good. you must avoid all spices and only the most bland food without any flavor at all so that you may avoid all hedonistic pleasure from the food.
<Strawman, people who have sex are doing it for pleasure instead of the actual use of it.
You don't understand the meaning of the word strawman. You just called me a strawman and completely avoided answering what I said.
IF you avoid sex to avoid pleasure, you must also avoid any and all food that tastes good because it's hedonistic.
>>670285
>Also, during ordinary sex you also commit """murder""" since only one out of hundreds of thousands will fertilize egg, where others will die.
This. You kill every single one that doesn't make it.
>670286
>If at least one sperm makes it then the rest didn't die in vain, nimrod.
>>670291
>If you are not open to the possibility of having kids then do not have sex. Only intellectually stunted people do not understand this.
Then by that logic, when you don't have sex all of them die in vain by not being used.
>>670311
>Look how serene he is, knowing this life is not everything.
So life isn't about everything, so he wants abortion outlawed so that a bunch of babies have to live life and an especially horrible one considering that all the parents who would have aborted (because they didn't love their children or have enough money to give them to have a happy and healthy life) will now have kids and those kids will live a life that "is not everything"
>This is how a Christian dies.
Yea, by making abortion into murder.
>person gets abortion
>convicted of murder
>gets death penalty
welp
2523ba No.670327
>>670321
>completely avoided answering what I said.
Because why should I acknowledge it? This isn't a debate.
>IF you avoid sex to avoid pleasure, you must also avoid any and all food that tastes good because it's hedonistic.
No, this isn't a black and white world where everything must be absolute. Having sex for pleasure is bad because it's a sin. Are you trying to play the gotcha game or something where you try to trap me with your sinful claws and tell me that I'm a huge heretic because I do thing (x) that is fun?
<Then by that logic, when you don't have sex all of them die in vain by not being used.
At least they aren't being ==murdered== in the open air.
068d20 No.670328
>>670321
<IF you avoid sex to avoid pleasure, you must also avoid any and all food that tastes good because it's hedonistic.
>what is fasting
>what is natural family planning
If people don't want to have children, they should control their shit.
<b-but it's hard! I-I love my cummies!
Nobody cares.
You should love God more than your carnal appetites.
59056f No.670331
Good Lord, all the mental gymnastics in this thread are atrocious. One side doesnt even know what murder is, another guy thinks that having pleasure is sin, one guy doesnt even know that one of the prime reasons for marriage is EXACTLY to avoid sin while getting carnal pleasure and preventing lust and we now have another guy, who actually criticizes the main character of this thread for doing a good thing and trying to outlaw abortion, the ACTUAL murder.
If you continue your "holier than thou" idiocy and weaponized autism, I'll simply delete this thread to get over with it.
ea54db No.670333
>>670327
>completely avoided answering what I said.
<Because why should I acknowledge it? This isn't a debate.
So you admit you're wrong. Okay.
>IF you avoid sex to avoid pleasure, you must also avoid any and all food that tastes good because it's hedonistic.
<No, this isn't a black and white world where everything must be absolute. Having sex for pleasure is bad because it's a sin. Are you trying to play the gotcha game or something where you try to trap me with your sinful claws and tell me that I'm a huge heretic because I do thing (x) that is fun?
It seems it's only black and white or grey when it's convenient for you. If you have sex, all the other spem die, but that's okay even though you just killed millions of potential children. If you have no sex at all, they all die, if you masturbate, they all die. No matter what you do, millions of children (sperm) die, but sex is a sin because it feels good. Since no matter what you do, millions of children die then you're basing the sin element on the pleasure you get out of it. Tell me why does something you gain pleasure from have the possibility of creating life? maybe it's because pleasure is good? if you disagree with that then you have to remove all pleasure from your life and not only abstain from sex but also from all your favorite foods. You have to say bye bye to them and never enjoy anything in life ever again until you go to heaven of old age.
<Then by that logic, when you don't have sex all of them die in vain by not being used.
>At least they aren't being ==murdered== in the open air.
Where does it matter where they're murdered? Inside a woman, in the air, they all suffer and die. You can not ignore those deaths if you're a good christian and you can't tell me that doing it one way better than another makes it suddenly "okay" or acceptable.
ea54db No.670335
>>670327
<IF you avoid sex to avoid pleasure, you must also avoid any and all food that tastes good because it's hedonistic.
>what is fasting
Just because you stop eating food all together doesn't mean that you avoided foods that taste good for your entire life. If you avoid sex to avoid pleasure you must eat bland tasteless foods forever until you pass away of old age.
>what is natural family planning
>If people don't want to have children, they should control their shit.
<b-but it's hard! I-I love my cummies!
<Nobody cares.
<You should love God more than your carnal appetites.
Great! I agree with you. With that logic you must love God more than your gluttonous appetites as well and must eat bland tasteless food for the rest of your life. No excuses.
ea54db No.670336
ea54db No.670337
>>670331
>Good Lord, all the mental gymnastics in this thread are atrocious. One side doesnt even know what murder is, another guy thinks that having pleasure is sin, one guy doesnt even know that one of the prime reasons for marriage is EXACTLY to avoid sin while getting carnal pleasure and preventing lust and we now have another guy, who actually criticizes the main character of this thread for doing a good thing and trying to outlaw abortion, the ACTUAL murder.
I'm not criticizing the man who is pictured in the OP. I'm saying that banning abortion is like giving a burn victim a skin graft. why not prevent the injury in the first place?
>If you continue your "holier than thou" idiocy and weaponized autism, I'll simply delete this thread to get over with it.
If you delete the thread It means that christianity is wrong and must quickly hide evidence of that. I'm a christian but I'm also logical and I wont let go when I see that there is a problem with the way we think.
59056f No.670340
>>670337
>I'm not criticizing the man who is pictured in the OP. I'm saying that banning abortion is like giving a burn victim a skin graft. why not prevent the injury in the first place?
Because of this >>670241 and we can already see the results of this.
>If you delete the thread It means that christianity is wrong and must quickly hide evidence of that. I'm a christian but I'm also logical and I wont let go when I see that there is a problem with the way we think.
no, I will delete this thread, because the mental gymnastics here took atrocious level to the point that people are twisting the meanings of the words, like "murder" (despite church fathers just mentioning that its unnatural, but not murder) and generally both sides having holier than thou attitude, not to mention hostile tone and calling others names, like "nimrod". I dont want my thread to be place of such hostile and uncharitable discussion.
ea54db No.670342
>>670340
Okay. I archived the thread and I'm posting it everywhere now to show everyone how /christian/ you really all are.
bye bye
59056f No.670345
>>670342
As I said
>If you continue your "holier than thou" idiocy and weaponized autism, I'll simply delete this thread to get over with it.
I wont, if you both sides will start to behave and argue rationally and like mature people without name callings and word twistings
ea54db No.670346
>>670345
too late, you've proven yourself unworthy.
59056f No.670349
bacb6c No.670351
shieeeeeeeeeeet wrong thread
bacb6c No.670353
lol at the comments with all those upvotes
Can sense the passive agressive in those commenters. Wouldnt suprise me if they like that he is dying
ea54db No.670354
bacb6c No.670355
>>670351
Wait no it wasnt the wrong thead. I am really confused by myself
068d20 No.670356
>>670347
>>670350
>>670351
>>670353
>>670355
Was it autism?
bacb6c No.670358
>>670356
I do have autism. So probably
4dc081 No.670360
>>670235
>Keeping up one's pants and having many children is now problematic
>Rather using shitty items like condoms or pumping your wife full with hormones than using the natural cycle
What a time to be alive.
203faf No.670376
>>670235
>>670264
>hurrr me want peepee feel gud
Human bonobos please reconsider your life
50e2aa No.670466
The edgy fedora made a thread on /b/
>>>/b/8124859
b8ceb4 No.670477
>>670197
How about do not winnie the pooh before marriage and do it if you take care of the children which may be born of this union.
940ebc No.670487
>could have asked for something cool like to drive a tank or meet a celebrity
>instead saved thousands of childrens lives
What a hero. God bless bruh
e46669 No.670496
>>670235
>you want everyone pregnant all the time?
Yes. Understand, understand. For a woman to be pregnant is a holy gift from God. That being said, if for whatever anomalous reason pregnancy is an objective ill in some circumstance, one should refrain from putting benis in vagoo. If you can't handle something as simple as that then castration is the only viable option that I can think of.
>>670255
>Just don't have sex. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that?
Because:
MUH DIK