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>>669584

>and sexual practices enlightened humanists in the West.

than*

>>669584

I know an article like this can be tempting to prove a point, but I will have to politely sage. These people behave the way they do because of environmental factors; they have to produce as many children as possible or else the tribe will die out. Place these same people in a Western urban environment, and they will more than likely become sexual libertines.

>>669637

No one implied otherwise.

it definitely contradicts the "BUT I WAS BORN GAY" argument

>>669584

>no wageslavery

>no feminism cancer

>no contraceptives

>nothing to do but make fun and have sex

>land and food is virtually free

>children raised collectively by tribe

How do we return to this primitive state while maintaining scientific and medical advancement?

>>669584

>you will never live in pre-industrial society with a young wife your age and as many children as you can have

Feels bad man

>>669637

Not necessarily true, might be a biodiversity thing which they are predisposed to, just like how a massive majority of the African long-distance running champions originate from a single kenyan tribe.

Of course even predisposition can be overpowered by perverse environmental factors like there are in clownworld.

>>670069

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?

>>669584

But are they strictly monogamous? *Ain't nobody got time to read sources, I'm here for shitposting*

>>669584

This reminds me of a research. They put mice in crowded but plentiful environment not unlike cities. Deviancy, violence, etc. Stemming from boredom, stress, decadence, etc.

So, huge cities bad and nice small town good?

>>669584

For Science, let some jews live among them for a while.

>>670094

>How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?

All of them?

>>670094

>How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Does it make sense for non-spatial, non-temporal beings to dance? I'm actually curious because I've never heard or read discussion of the topic outside its use an an idiot to express triviality.

>>670119

*idiom

>>670072

>>669637

This is the primary factor in their culture. Easy living leads to idleness, and idleness ultimately leads to hedonism. Not to sound like an Anabaptist, but that's my observation.

>>670101

>Velma_saying_you_stop_that.jpg

>>670172

The conditions which begat behavioral sink are similar to the conditions that showed practically all rats to be cocaine addicts.

Another researcher gave the rats a cocaine option but also gave them a bunch of activities to do (runnings wheels, rat play stuff) and far fewer percentage became addicted.

I think this sink happens because our culture has no agreeable goal to reach toward. We're not all working for the Mars colony or working to eradicate an enemy so everyone just ends up living for themselves… with this deplorable result.

>>669584

is no one gonna talk about that one tigga who just straight levitating lmao

>>670299

Its like what God said: Those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

>>670172

How can there ever be an overabundance of women though (without a war killing off a lot of men, of course)? I thought the when you look at any population (assuming there hasn't been a war of course), the male-to-female ratio is basically 1:1. If a society can have significantly more women than men then why aren't polygamous civilisations successful?

From my understanding, the entirety of civilisation is built upon the contract between men and women i.e. men agreeing to be lifelong workhorses exclusively to one woman in exchange for women becoming that man's exclusive broodmare and sexual outlet. Without this contract, you get large groups of men who, without families, have no reason to give 100% of their labour. Yes, you can enslave men with a military of sorts and get their labour out of fear but it's never as effective as the 100% you get from a man that's working, happy in the knowledge that his work supports his family.

>>670299

>Did you know that in some african tribes they do not have words for concepts such as "Depression" and thus do not ever experience it?

The explanation I always found is that the reason why people in 3rd world countries never experience depression is actually because they're too busy trying to survive to experience depression. You only really start to question what meaning your existence has when the things that threaten your existence are dealt with. Are you familiar with Maslow's Hierarchy, perhaps? Also, why have you assumed that you need to have a word for a concept before being able to think of it? My argument is essentially that it's not that they don't experience depression because they don't have a word for it but rather, they don't have a word for it because they don't experience it.

There are a lot of things in life that are understood through experience, not through words. Basically, it's like, if you never had a word for the colour you've come to know as "yellow", would you not still be aware of the reality that daffodils and butter were differing shades of the same colour?

I think language shapes our psychology, but not to the extent you're trying to argue. The idea that language either restricts or liberates your mind is an idea which, when taken to its logical extreme, results in people arguing for the globalisation of constructed languages like Esperanto because they believe that by abandoning the languages that naturally evolved out of a people's common experiences embracing this foreign, cerebral creation, they can elevate all peoples to the same level and finally create their leftist utopia.

I agree with your reasons for reading the scriptures though.

>>669843

It's basically been proven that homosexuality is genetic. By exposing fetuses in primates and mice to increased levels of androgen, they become faggots.

>>670503

that would be epigenetic, not genetic. right? i think theres another word for outside conditioning

>>670518

No. Being exposed to androgen during fetal life creates homosexuality in various animals. In humans things like having a homosexual sibling increases ones chance of being a homo by ~25%.

>>670573

Ya that's not genetic if it's caused by external, non-dna factors and it isn't hereditary

>>670119

Yes.

Also, yes, they are limited in time-space, as all of the creation is. Only God is outside of time-space.

>>670575

It is not "external", lad. Androgen is a type of hormone that mothers secrete. This is not anymore "external" than your sister's brain marinating in estrogen when she was a fetus.

>>670591

Genetic: due to the DNA itself. Adding hormones to a fetus does not change the DNA in its cells. The DNA is (more or less) immutable, what your parents gave you is what you have for the rest of your life. Adding hormones can have a permanent effect, but it is in addition to whatever the DNA mandates, it does not change the mandates of the DNA itself.

Think of it like this: the DNA is the blueprint of a house, it mandates how workers are to build the house. But then the workers begin to slack off, use the wrong materials or do shoddy work. The blueprints stay the same, but the house has been altered anyway.

>>670503

Introducing hormones from an external source is not genetic.

In addition, children adopted by a gay couple or 7 times more likely to be gay.

Immutable evidence that it is not genetic.

>>671198

Are 7 times*

source for the 7x number

>>671205

Trayce L. Hansen, PhD, psychologist and cultural commentator, wrote the following information in her article "Pro-Homosexual Researchers Conceal Findings: Children Raised by Openly Homosexual Parents More Likely to Engage in Homosexuality," accessed from her website, on May 29, 2009:

>"I think that although these studies can't be used to make definitive statements, they are suggestive that homosexual parents are rearing disproportionate numbers of non-heterosexual children. This isn't surprising since parents are the primary influencers of children… Based on the average found in the following nine studies, 14% of children raised by homosexual parents develop homosexual or bisexual preferences. These studies reported rates of non-heterosexuality ranging from 8% to 21%. The most frequently reported percentages were 14% and 16% (two studies each). For comparison purposes, data from the best national surveys report that approximately 2% of the general population is non-heterosexual… The preceding nine studies suggest that children raised by homosexual or bisexual parents are approximately 7 times more likely than the general population to develop a non-heterosexual sexual preference."

>>669584

I mean if I had a woman dtf three times a night every night I wouldn’t jerk off either. Masturbation is a temptation that arises from a lack of available physical intimacy

>>670069

You can’t.

>>671174

Literally doesn't change the fact that sexuality is heritable.

>>671198

It happens naturally in the womb.

>>671215

You can literally tell that this person has no idea what she's talking about because she's starting with the premise of the blank slate. The idea that you can raise a child in a certain way and change its sexuality is retarded.

Also, this

>This isn't surprising since parents are the primary influencers of children

is wrong. There's absolutely 0 evidence that parents have any impact at all on sexuality.

Also, nowhere does this say that this is about adopted children.

>>669584

seems like they aren't so primitive after all

>>672201

>Literally doesn't change the fact that sexuality is heritable.

>It happens naturally in the womb.

Being exposed to your moms' hormones in the womb is not "genetic". You don't understand these terms. Genetic means it comes pre-packed in the DNA you receive from your parents.

>The idea that you can raise a child in a certain way and change its sexuality is retarded.

It could be that the sexuality is already there, hidden, and certain exposures bring it out. Like how people acquire fetishes and lose fetishes.

>is wrong. There's absolutely 0 evidence that parents have any impact at all on sexuality.

lesbians can't have babies on their own, so it doesn't explain the disproportionate gay kids reared by faggots.

>>670375

People in third world countries are busy doing nothing. That's why their country is part of the third world.