ecc365 No.669047
>'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. - Leviticus 18:22
>If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. - Leviticus 20:13
>And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to reprobate mind to do what ought not to be done… Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. - Romans 1:27-32
Should homosexuals, who have rejected the Gospel and are confirmed given over into reprobate mind, be put to death by the government? St. John Chrysostom does say that reprobate faggots ought to be stoned
>For I should not only say that you have become a woman, but that you have lost your manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which you had, but you have been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. - Homily 4 on Romans, St. John Chrysostom (390 A.D.)
So, should faggots be given the death penalty?
7ac280 No.669051
>>669047
bump
also would like to add where celibate virgin gays fit in
8837b3 No.669052
Well, I'm all in for love thy neighbor and love thy enemy part, and 'hate the sin but not the sinner" and after all, they are also humans, made in image and likeness of God…
…but if government would impose death penalty on pederasts, to be honest, I wouldn't really object it. They have proven that they are like oil: as one drop of oil pollutes several liters of water, so does small group of pederasts corrupt entire society.
5e1abb No.669054
>>669051
If a person with homosexual attraction who has committed themselves to Christ then there is absolutely no reason they should be put to death and ought to be thought of as any other brother or sister in Christ. I think that should be established and agreed upon by everyone only Andersonites might object but they're heretics anyway so their opinion does not matter.
But as for the main question of this thread I want to see some discussion on this too and see what consensus is reached.
9d359b No.669055
>>669047
If someone is reprobate their demise is inevitable, it's not just a matter of public safety with such individuals but one of justice
e73d16 No.669056
>>669047
if they are open and unashamed about it yeah why not
if someone is struggling with it and knows it's bad and keeps it on the low i think it's alright. if someone is so blatant that there are multiple witnesses to their acts yeah, stoney stone time
83f75e No.669058
>>669047
Capital punishment should be reserved for extreme cases of abuse/violence/murder ala Gen 9:6.
For non-violent homosexuals our hope should be for their eventual transformation, not their death. That being said public displays of homosexuality should be criminalized as well as sodomy, flogging would be the better option than wasting money on imprisonment.
>>Should homosexuals, who have rejected the Gospel and are confirmed given over into reprobate mind, be put to death by the government?
We can't objectively confirm someone's destiny and state of their soul; but we can confirm that with God all things are possible, and that faith hopes for all things, and Christ called for mercy, not sacrifice. And that even the worst of sinners and homosexuals were transformed by the Holy Spirit, pic related.
>>669051
celibate gays need to battle their lustful thoughts and desires just like straight celibates do, that's about it.
83f75e No.669060
mods plz delete the gay pic.
1165dd No.669062
>>669047
Burn them all
>>669060
>Din't let me see just how messed up the world is! Protect me mods!
8837b3 No.669065
>>669062
>Din't let me see just how messed up the world is! Protect me mods!
nice, why wont we post actual porn while we're at it?
83f75e No.669068
>>669062
This is a christian board anon, we should treat it like we're in Church. No degeneracy/lewds/gayshit
3c9350 No.669071
If they are private about it, leaving it to the confines of their home? Let God judge them.
If they are public and vocal about it? Denounce them, but let God deliver the final judgment.
If they try to proselytize their sexuality to children, make a public display (ex. pride parades), or are public about their sex instead of their preferences? They should be put to labor for life, if not sentenced to death.
24bc46 No.669119
>>669058
>That being said public displays of homosexuality should be criminalized as well as sodomy, flogging would be the better option than wasting money on imprisonment
Some of them might be in to that…
f9461a No.669132
>>669047
It highly depends.
Young people who are quiet about it and keep to themselves are like regular sinners with still time to convert.
People who's whole life revolves around sucking dick and showing it to the whole world (even literally), attend pride parades and whatnot not only are proud of their sin, but scandalize others with it and try to persuade others to be like them.
The latter one should get a sentence.
c27053 No.669137
>>669071
Brilliantly put. Well said.
46741a No.669139
>>669071
Well that escalated quickly.
c27053 No.669140
>>669139
Feel free to explain how.
46741a No.669142
>>669140
>Do nothing
>Denounce
>Suddenly, hard labor/put to death
Personally, I think we should do more than just be vocal on the second one. The fall of grace begins with blasphemous propaganda after all.
a7fce4 No.669148
Keep one part of the law, have to keep the whole law.
ce6836 No.669151
>>669051
>where do the celibate gays fit in?
We put them in the back of the oven :^)
But on a more serious note, if we as a society tolerated "celibate faggots" we are still tolerating wickness. Faggotry is not an identity. It would make us hypocrites to put the unrepentant ones to death. In my perfect world, said "celibate faggots" would be given a choice:
Either mandatory psychological reversion (via accredited professional) or to the ovens with the rest of 'em.
ce6836 No.669153
>>669151
>tolerating wickness
>wickness
Lmao, I ment wickedness. I need to get more sleep. Self sage for spelling mistake
31881d No.669161
OKAY SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A FU¢KING JOKE!
As Christians, we should pray for the conversion of sinners, not their destruction. What saith the Scriptures on this matter?
Luke 9:54-56
<54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
<55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
<56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
Some of you should be worried about being so eager to call down curses (wishing evil on others) on people for their sins. Look in the mirror and see what faults you have. Clean up your life, then you can worry about how you can judge and punish others. Your rabid desire to kill people under the pretense of “divine justice” only reveals your malice-filled hearts. Shame on you.
7ee9ec No.669180
7279e8 No.669186
Put to death? No.
Forced to give up whatever demon (literal or metaphorical) that convinced them telling young boys and girls to join their lifestyle is ok? Yes. Fact of the matter is, homosexuality is a fetish, just like cuckolding and BDSM. All of it is a perversion of God’s norm, and even the most atheistic person can see how these fetishes can ruin the lives of the participants and those around them. Yeah, vanilla heterosexual sex might seem boring compared to anal fisting on a sex swing, but the point is to have kids, not to seek after the orgasm that makes them.
8837b3 No.669191
>>669180
He's right, y'know
12cb0e No.669216
>>669161
This needs to be posted in every "X should be killed" thread
92a9bd No.669299
24bc46 No.669300
>>669151
You can't punish people for just having temptations that they don't even give in to. That's ludicrous, and alien to the Bible. Or, if you are going to execute gays for just the temptation to sin, you would logically have to execute every dude who ever got horny seeing a girl in a bikini since that's spiritual adultery according to Jesus, and adultery was a capital offence in the OT just like sodomy was.
25985d No.669301
bb5898 No.669349
>>669148
Learn what moral law is then try again.
>>669299
Too bad you're just virtual signalling yourself, and passing off problems to someone else. And that's assuming you're not just another progressive. In any case, shirking your duty is wrong, even worse making others shirk theirs and even lying by pretending there isn't a massive problem here and twisting scripture to argue people should shirk. I guess there is no depth you progressives won't sink to.
bb5898 No.669350
>>669161
>Look in the mirror and see what faults you have. Clean up your life, then you can worry about how you can judge and punish others. Your rabid desire to kill people under the pretense of “divine justice” only reveals your malice-filled hearts.
According to your logic you just judged someone else. You should first follow your own advice then and just not post here, then maybe you won't look like a massive hypocrite.
1bd428 No.669355
So if we're going to start executing sodomites, are we going to execute people for adultery, incest, bestiality, blasphemy, idolatry, and such?
Also, will we begin following kosher?
5f4e0c No.669377
>>669300
If they suffer from SSA and admit they have a problem, we can help them. If they start rationalizing their wickedness and adopt it as their "identity" (or worse "God made me this way heresy ) than we will have to allow the reprobate sodomites have their identity. Which is UNACCEPTABLE! Tolerating wickedness is still wickedness!
If the "celibate faggots" which to keep their sinful identity, than they will have to be willing to die for it. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
31881d No.669399
>>669350
Wow. Talk about missing the fu¢king point. The point I was making is that if we have to kill homosexuals, then we all deserve the death penalty because no one is sinlessly perfect. It is YOU who is the massive hypocrite, because you want to kill a certain type of sinner, bur you’re excusing your own sins. Fu¢k off, you sanctimonious piece of $hit.
31881d No.669400
>>669216
“X should be killed” threads should warrant a permanent ban. These types of threads DO NOT illustrate the love of God in the slightest. It breeds nothing but self-righteousness and pride.
6a4768 No.670693
>>669186
but how do i get rid of that demon
881b0e No.670747
>>669186
This may not be the thread for it but I must ask, since the purpose of sex is reproductive and pleasure is to encourage the notion of reproduction, what exactly is wrong with BDSM so long as the sex involved is being used for its intended purpose?
2cbd16 No.670750
>>669161
The death penalty is perfectly legitimate, hippie
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3011.htm#article3
Catechism of the Council of Trent
The power of life and death is permitted to certain civil magistrates because theirs is the responsibility under law to punish the guilty and protect the innocent. Far from being guilty of breaking this commandment [Thy shall not kill], such an execution of justice is precisely an act of obedience to it. For the purpose of the law is to protect and foster human life. This purpose is fulfilled when the legitimate authority of the State is exercised by taking the guilty lives of those who have taken innocent lives.
In the Psalms we find a vindication of this right: “Morning by morning I will destroy all the wicked in the land, cutting off all evildoers from the city of the Lord” (Ps. 101:8).
Your heart, filled with malice, wants people to reject just punishments.
a229cf No.670759
>>669399
So do you not believe any crimes ought to be punished by the state? If it's okay for the state to punish murder, why do you draw the line at the state punishing prohibited sex acts? Just secular libertarian reasoning about it being victimless? Was Moses wrong to punish these acts, as God told him to? And if not when did punishing these acts become wrong?
b73d7a No.670868
>>670759
I’m against the death penalty, actually. If you guys would drop your medieval larping crusade fantasies for just a minute, you will notice that capital punishment does not deter criminal activity and potentially results in the execution of innocent people. Who cares about what ancient Israel and Moses did; they acted under the direct authority of God. You are placing a secular government in the position of God by saying that they have the power to execute criminals. Again, we should punish people, but killing them in this day and age is just not expedient.
a229cf No.670876
>>670868
>I’m against the death penalty, actually
Not what I asked, but okay. What other laws would you support to restrict homosexual acts, then? Assuming a Christian government and majority Christian population.
343b2f No.670878
3c11bd No.670983
1cc062 No.679346
For some reason Christians are for corporal punishment, but i don't think homosexuals should be put to death, part of the difference between God and Satan is that God gives you a choice.
c6e0fd No.679347
>the Bible is a state constitution
The state has responsibilities that clearly fall under the "give to Caesar" clause. Fags are poison to society and should not be tolerated in any healthy society. Christians should help conflicted gays, but the ones that are open about it should be subject to whatever the state determines needs to be done about them.
The current pedo situation could have been prevented if people would socially quarantine fags.
c28272 No.679355
4ea5e9 No.679372
>>669186
>the point is to have kids, not to seek after the orgasm that makes them
That's a good quote anon.
c5c045 No.679708
I just had a thought: do you think porn producers should get priority over fags? What do you think?
Pic unrelated
691ff9 No.679717
The fact that we have this thread every so often should tell you something's wrong with how people are being taught about scripture.
1cc062 No.679726
>>669047
>should homosexuals be put to death?
It's better for them to be saved. Pic is a joke.
658eec No.679732
>>669047
If it's curable it should be cured, otherwise it needs to be quarantined.
2b2a63 No.679743
I believe most modern homosexuals are created by a traumatic event, such as a trusted person sexually voilating them.
They then justify this event by choosing to be gay.
bd31ed No.679753
>Catechism paragraph 2267: If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority should limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity with the dignity of the human person.
039bf8 No.679884
By death I think he means hell, faggots have fun in this life but they're put to death when they have to face judgement.