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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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428a5e No.668399

Is there any circumstance in any time by any reading where it's acceptable? My dearest friend and I are having a serious problem reconciling our beliefs and it's causing potentially permanent emotional damage. She doesn't even believe in it, but can't endure the fact that I consider something she considers part of her heritage an evil act. She wants to do it as a sort of self-searching thing, but I don't even want it in the house. And she doesn't see the difference between receiving information from random spirits and God, as long as the spirits aren't malevolent.

I expect I already know the answer, but this is killing me, and her.

05e584 No.668405


d75922 No.668416

>>668399

Divination kills free will.


66e860 No.668417

>>668399

It is witchcraft/sorcery. Nope. Not even for fun, and most horoscopes and "readings" are just hot or cold reading or written to appeal widely as a whole so when one thing came true people would assume that it was the reading that was spot-on. So either you give praise to charlatan or sorcerers. Bad either way.

>But why "readings" are sorcery but "prophecy" is not?

The main difference is who is behind it. Prophecy was given to prophets by God for a reason. Readings are either psychological trick or sorcery borrowed from the enemy.


3fd42b No.668425

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>>668399

no, it is and will always be witchery.


057cfb No.668430

>>668399

No, one must search knowledge from God, and He shall inform one when it is needed. Also, what guarantees you have that one wouldnt went up in contact with Demons or Damned? In fact, the only time known in church history, when it didnt "fail" completely was at summoning of Samuel… who CURSED Saul, for consulting with a necromancer.

So no, its a big no no.


4a87b3 No.668527

I practiced "divination" through tarots, don't do it. I will shortly explain why it's better not.

-Most of the times you will only be deluding yourself into reading random results, this will make your understanding of the situation more chaotic.

-Fatalism. Blindly believing the prediction can lead to delusion. For example expecting easy luck but then you get kicked in the face by life.

-Future is not fixed, assuming it works divination can only tell the probable future based on your current will. Trying to act to change the future can make the situation worse.

-God's plan. Sometimes things must go in a certain way, even bad things. Not cooperating with God's plan is a serious act of hubris, it hints lack of faith, and in the long run it will not be the best for you.

-What is exactly the force that let's you see the future. Can it be demonic? I don't know but it's better to leave it alone. If God wants you to know the future he has his ways, as shown in the Bible.

-What if stars/tarots/whatever you are using correctly predicts the future but also suggest you to take a certain path? What if the omen says "big disgrace" and you do everything to avoid it, but then realize it was not a disgrace at all and you actually made the situation worse. It has happened to me, the cards said the truth but gave bad advice.


428a5e No.668950

Conversation's over. I'm not sure we're still friends. She was the most important person in the world to me. I think I'm going to go drink.


ceb99a No.668960

>>668950

>She was the most important person in the world to me. I think I'm going to go drink.

Please don't do that-

hiding the bad feelings for a short while will only make them worse later. I know this from my own experience and my mother's decades long struggle with alcoholism. Just cry it out. Call a friend or family member you can talk to, and have a good cry. It'll be better for you than drinking.


428a5e No.668965

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>>668960

To be honest, I feel better than I thought I would. I'm a manic depressant co-dependent (on this friend, in fact) that ranked in the 100th percentile for human susceptibility to negative emotion. I've barely eaten all week and have had multiple panic attacks at work. I think maybe I burned out my negative emotion receptors before the final conversation even happened, which is something I do when things are really bad, and it let me kind of coast through in a sort of zen melancholy instead of full blown anxiety attack. I still feel awful and anxious, but only a fraction of what I should.

Honestly, I probably should be an alcoholic at this point, but I'm not and can't imagine being one. Hangovers are winnie the pooh horrendous. I think I'm just going to sip on one serving of liquor and hit up my little brother to play a game. I appreciate your post, Anon, and I'll see if I can let go a bit more when the tension has come down. I feel knotted up inside still.

I feel like I've endured something meaningful to my faith, in any case. It doesn't feel good so much as right.


0f34b5 No.668966

>>668399

Drawing lots is scriptural if done in a prayerful context.


0f34b5 No.668968

>>668966

But generally no.


ceb99a No.669162

>>668965

> I appreciate your post, Anon, and I'll see if I can let go a bit more when the tension has come down. I feel knotted up inside still.

>I feel like I've endured something meaningful to my faith, in any case. It doesn't feel good so much as right.

*Hugs*


32b839 No.669168

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>>668965

God is and always be with you, and will always love you, anon. Remember that all the time, it helps me to cheer up, when I feel sad.




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