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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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34d616 No.665401

Are there any good numbers about how many people are actually practicing Christians in each country? If you just believe the surveys, Iceland is extraordinarily religious, but only 10% attend Mass at least once a month. Are there any good numbers adjusting for this?

cfdf42 No.665407

>>665401

The Christians in Iceland are pretty liberal but you still wouldn't be able to draw a correlation with Mass attendance and devotion. Liberals, especially Episcopalians, have turned the Mass into blasphemous dance halls. I mean we sure wouldn't count that Beyonce Mass in the tally. Anyway, we would need completely different metrics to measure for Christian devotion.


8ccbfa No.665515

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You really can't go by church attendance, or other public community events for a lot of countries, since cultural and political context affects it. For instance in Russia, the largest religion by far is the Russian Orthodox Church. When compared to France, the people of Russia seem to be miniscule in their adherence to their faith. However, many Russian orthodox christians view the Church as a corrupt puppet of the Russian government, and thus a saying was born in Russia, "Corruption lives in the church, God lives in the heart." Essentially meaning that one would not have to listen to or consisently attend mass in order to believe in Christ. Another example would be Middle Eastern Christians, who oftentimes are religious but unable or unwilling to attend mass because of social tensions. This is especially true in Egypt and Iraq. There's also the fact that 75% of Middle Eastern Christians are diaspora in the West. So it's pretty difficult to narrow down who is religious and whether their belief is authentic. Any study is too subjective, and therefore not always reliable. It's probably best to just judge the result based on the number of people who call themselves Christian. Atheists will be the first to open their mouths and declare their unbelief, don't worry.


8ccbfa No.665516

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>>665515

Muslims do it in an even more obnoxious way. They actually reached the mythical 1.6billion number by exaggerating Islamic populations. In many Muslim nations, they'll simply count the entire population as Muslim even if 20% of 30% are irreligious/christian/buddhist. In Turkey, every child is automatically a Muslim unless there is a specific desire to choose another religion, so many Christians and atheists are born as muslim and never bother changing it. Thus the entire 81million population of Turkey is counted as muslim, when it honestly isn't.


48bf3a No.665544

>>665515

>However, many Russian orthodox christians view the Church as a corrupt puppet of the Russian government, and thus a saying was born in Russia, "Corruption lives in the church, God lives in the heart."

Interesting. Isn't going to mass mandatory on Sundays though? How do they substitute it? And also doesn't that mean that the Church has fallen into error and it's not the true Church anymore?


b38e59 No.665574

>>665516

Not to mention the number of islamic countries with the death penalty for apostasy. You're not exactly going to be honest on the survey.




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