/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>665241

They became the Independent Fundamental Baptists.

There are still conservative Presbyterians around but they're far fewer than what the used to be

Methodists/Congregationalists (usually called the 'Uniting Church') are full of liberalism however

Mainline Protestantism is almost entirely pozzed

>>665256

what can we do? I also feel like most Churches are done

>>665263

Make your own.

What you're really asking is why America fell so hard and so fast. The answer ryhmes with shoes.

>>665271

Is this why mexico and brazil is such a beauty?

>>665271

Is that why the Vatican allows and protects sodomites in it's clergy? The Holy Spirit demands it?

>>665241

>What happened to the Puritans?

Mammon.

Hey, guys. Want some conjured up FIAT currency that everybody still uses and therefore is good enough to cheat up an actual worth with?

Low low price, too, only your future, your souls, your nations, your faiths.

>>665274

Do not revel in the great falling away. Your protestant countries have fallen into secularization as well.

>>665248

it's hard to imagine a good Christian and a free market usurer

SOLA SCRIPTURA IN ACTION

>>665241

>ro*ndhead p*ritans spiral out of control because they butcher the concept of god by making it as emotionless and machinistic as them

>How did this happen?

Divine simplicity leaves no way for God to interact with the faithful, which is why it creates atheists.

Why worship a set of rules? Only the aquatic kike could ever be so wicked.

>>665316

He wasn't talking about secularisation, though…

>>665316

His point was that Catholicism is not immune from corruption either, and thinking that it is is folly.

>>665241

It's pretty ironic how the UCC is a direct descendant of the Puritans. Lol Protestantism.

calvinism did this

mencius moldbug the ultracalvinist hypothesis

hbd on northwest european psychometrics

>>665467

>moldbug

shoo shoo christ-denying jew

>>665374

If i would say "Lol papists" i would get banned

>>665473

Moldbug does get pretty retarded a lot of the time (he literally calls the bugman-globohomo superstructure 'the cathedral', comparing possibly the greatest creation of European Christendom to globalist kike sodomy and devil worship is genuinely enraging), but even a broken clock is right twice a day, he's had genuine insights in his time (not familiar with this particular theory though).

Even a literal jew can find valid things to criticize about Mormons, Jehovahs, and other heretics, why not calvinists or puritans? Not bothering even with flawed or often stupid critics is asking to eventually be blindsided by your enemies, because you just didn't take time to really consider or respond to their objections, even if they're wrong.

It's something I myself am guilty of but it bears repeating, leftists and jews are often seizing upon a real problem that's ignored by (((main stream conservatives))), and they'll win if we don't address their criticism and think of a solution that's better than theirs (even if their solution is retarded and evil, if we don't have a plausible counter offer, we lose).

>>665317

>free market usurer

Why is free market considered usury? What do they even have to do with one another?

I love the free market and hate usury. Is that weird?

>>665241

Begome Orthodox.

This was the reason why I converted to Orthodoxy.

It is the only of the Christian faiths to stand up to modernity, progress, time, change, decay, death, etc.

Puritans become gay loving universalists. Most Protestant and Baptist/Non-Denominational churches (my personal background) even 50 years ago at most, longer in rarer cases, have followed a similar trend of liberalization. I needed to find a place that did NOT change, and would still be the exact same thing for my descendants and progeny.

Catholics are going in an increasingly very liberal direction and have been for a while, while also being at the spearhead of the start of many of the problems we see today. Vatican I and Vatican II are both massive distortions. The start of these distortions was even earlier however.

Have mercy on me.

>>665241

fruits of heresy

>>665256

>>665263

>what can we do?

Keep your small flame lit, try to light those around you. Do what little you can with what little you have.

>>665320

THIS. it eventually devolves to a relativist position which goes hand in hand with modernity. if something is (T)ruth, then it is always true and there is really no room for change. the danger, in a sense, is one of confirmation bias. with time and ego, one comes to the text with assertions they want to prove and then reverse engineer/"back into" validations of those assertions.

as an ancillary matter, it gives preeminence to the text when the text actually post dates the beliefs of the church and the liturgy. the liturgy & with it the traditions are older than the codified texts itself and the interpretation of the text was always meant to be in the hands of the apostolic church. you kinda see this problem writ large with creation museums and people bending over backwards to explain that the earth is 5000 years old, etc.