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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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f86ec2 No.658798

Southern Baptist #MeToo reckoning…

"Many women have experienced horrific abuses within the power structures of our Christian world," Beth Moore, an evangelical teacher, wrote in a letter

http://archive.today/2018.06.08-195034/https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sexual-misconduct/metoo-goes-church-southern-baptists-face-reckoning-over-treatment-women-n880216

The Southern Baptist Convention, the country's largest evangelical denomination, is headed for a showdown over its treatment of women that could not only have far-reaching ramifications for the church but also influence the broader secular #MeToo movement. At its annual meeting next week in Dallas, delegates called "messengers" will decide whether to approve a resolution acknowledging that, throughout the church's history, male leaders and members of the church "wronged women, abused women, silenced women, objectified women."

"The #MeToo moment has come to American evangelicals," Albert Mohler, president of the flagship Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, wrote last month. "And I am called to deal with it as a Christian, as a minister of the Gospel, as a seminary and college president, and as a public leader." The convention is meeting in the wake of several widely publicized scandals in which prominent Southern Baptist leaders have been accused of or have admitted inappropriate behavior toward women. "Many women have experienced horrific abuses within the power structures of our Christian world," Beth Moore, a prominent evangelical teacher in Houston, wrote in an open letter last month.

Most recently, the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in nearby Fort Worth fired Paige Patterson, a pre-eminent figure in the denomination's conservative resurgence in recent decades, who had been its president since 2003. The seminary's board cited allegations that Patterson counseled a female student not to report that another student had raped her at a seminary he was leading in 2003 shortly before he took the Southwestern job. The board also said his history of remarks about women in general — for example, in a 2014 sermon he described telling a woman that her son's "ogling" of an attractive teenage girl was an appropriately "biblical" response — was "antithetical to the core values of our faith." Patterson's attorney accused the board of having "misrepresented" his client's actions in the 2003 case. In a statement, Patterson said, "I do not believe there is a woman or girl ever associated with me who would allege any abuse on my part" — an allegation that no one appears to have made. The Patterson revelations came on the heels of Frank Page's resignation in March as president and chief executive of the Southern Baptist Convention's executive committee over what the church described as a "morally inappropriate relationship in the recent past."

Also in March, Andy Savage resigned as a teaching pastor at Highpoint Church, a nondenominational congregation attended by more than 2,000 worshipers every week at three campuses in the Memphis, Tennessee, area, after he acknowledged that he had been involved in an inappropriate "sexual incident" with an underage high school student 20 years ago as a youth minister at a large Southern Baptist church near Houston. Such episodes aren't surprises to women who have recounted their own experiences in the Southern Baptist Convention, which declares that they must "submit" to their husbands and doesn't allow them to be pastors or to teach men in any official capacity. On the second day of the annual meeting next week, a coalition of women — many of whom organizers say are Southern Baptists — plans to rally outside the hall to protest what they characterized as "the prevalence of abuse and its enablement within the Southern Baptist Convention."

b1d09f No.658816

As scandal came to Roman Catholicism in the early 2000s, so scandal comes to the Southern Baptists.

May God have mercy on them, and may he bless them with strength and repentance.


d0524e No.658823

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>>658798

>changing the church to accomodate modernist ideas

For shame


56f834 No.658826

>>658823

>ogling is biblical

No, quite the opposite. He who looks lustfully at a woman commits adultery. What's different here is that modernists turned it into a witch hunt.


e4bfbb No.658827

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>Secular rhetoric

>Golden rule

>Covering for sin

>Encouraging sin

>Sin, and citing more examples of sin

I don't see the problem here. God, in his glory, has been known to use secularists and sinners to accomplish His will. In this case, His will appears to be the restoration of the dignity of this church.

I pray that this will cause the Baptists to re-examine their practices, and clean house of some of their worst offenders. The same way I applauded when we (Catholic) had every bishop in Chile submit resignation for covering up child abuse.

God sustains his church. This is a part of him doing so. Hopefully, the council and laymen's reaction will improve their theology. Otherwise, I say vote with your feet. Our door is always open.


e2e624 No.658845

>>658827

>God, in his glory, has been known to use secularists and sinners to accomplish His will. In this case, His will appears to be the restoration of the dignity of this church.

Pretty much.

Sexual abuse is wrong, no matter who does it or blows the whistle.

Some forms of PC'ism and feminism actually have broadly similar logic to christian morality(and sometimes ally with us), except without a guiding hand from above, they turn neurotic and weird, as >>658826 says.

You can sometimes even see sex-negative feminists feeling marginalized for saying women should be feminine, sex work is degrading, sleeping around is objectifying for women, burqas are bad, transmen are not women, and not getting support for it.


7d39cf No.658846

>>658823

>not death penalty

Not far enough.


7a17f4 No.658856

>>658798

Southern Baptists are still a thing?


287abf No.658914

>>658856

Not for long. Russell Moore(who took church money to fund a mosque) seems determined to turn it into another Episcopal Church. More and more leaders of the sbc are diving into social justice stuff and critical race theory(see the MLK50 conference). There is also a rumor that Beth Moore might be nominated as denomination president in the 2018 election.


c108ee No.658944

>>658823

Why spit on gays and not convert them and get them to repent their wicked ways?


20675e No.658958

>>658944

Reprobates dont care about being converted or repenting. They are too busy getting their cummies and getting anal fissures to care about God.


5841bd No.658959

>>658958

Yeah you really destroy them when you use words they made.


20675e No.658969

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>>658959

<you can never use the c word!

<thats our word!

<stop telling me the inconvenient truth!

<my pastor said the God loves us gay people, and there is nothing you bigots can do about it.

<Ill have you know, Dr Goldstein said that I contracted only 7 STDs, and ergo in perfect health.


c108ee No.658984

>>658958

Not all gays are reprobates


20675e No.658987

>>658984

The fact that they identify as gay makes them reprobate. If they realize they have a mental disorder and seek professional help, than there is hope. One cannot hold onto their sin and expect God to be okay with it.


c108ee No.658990

>>658987

I know but they can't realize they're just suffering from perversion and can work through it if all they're ever told is "you're born this way and jesus hates you, so keep doing what you're doing. "


0dd0ff No.659000

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>>658990

<you were born this way

Is a filthy prot LIE!

God does not make people faggots, people make people faggots!

Thats why Im saying they have to realize what they have is a mental disorder. A very strong and bad mental disorder. But if they are so far gone they wont accept the truth,

THEY ARE REPROBATE


98abbb No.659010

>>659000

You don’t seem to know what a mental disorder is.


c108ee No.659022

>>659000

I know it's a lie and that's what I'm saying.




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