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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

File: c50dbf30d6d2dc8⋯.png (93.73 KB, 500x316, 125:79, newman.png)

e5d5a8 No.652758

>all church fathers believed and taught in apostolic Christianity (orthodoxy, Catholicism, oriental orthodoxy, nestoranism, etc,)

>every single sect of Christianity believed and taught 90% of the same things until 1500

>3/4th of christian history is only apostolic

>all Churches from western rite, to eastern rite, to Ethiopian church, to the Celtic church in ireland and Greenland, to the German arian churches, to st.Thomas based Indian churches, to nestorian churches in china and parthia, to miaphysites churches, etc. all shared the seven sacraments, had mass, had priests and bishops, had apostolic succession. asked mary and the saints to pray for them, used artwork, etc.

how can anyone be protestant?

d42b1c No.652759

maybe they are born with it


a1be38 No.652760

>>652759

Maybe it's Maybelline


34b623 No.652764

File: 610d36ee76df07c⋯.png (2.51 MB, 1200x3828, 100:319, 1508036775564.png)


9be22c No.652766

>The Seven Sacraments

Practiced by the Lutheran Church and surely some other protestant churches

>Had mass

Practiced by every protestant church

>Had priests and Bishops

Present in multiple protestant churches

>Artwork

There too

The only thing is Apostolic Succession, the power structure of the church, and praying to the saints. Which can be argued against with scripture (Lev. 19:31 & Lev. 20:6)


311f12 No.652767

>>652758

Some of those apostolic groups you mentioned are banned from spreading their views on this board because they aren't counted as Christian by the board rules. Look at the rules and see for yourself.

Speaking as a Lutheran, we have many of the things you listed. The main point of difference is not praying to Mary and the saints to pray for us for anything at all. We have two sacraments because we put having a coherent definition of a sacrament above having the sacraments number a nice number like 7. We still have stuff like confirmation, but it isn't counted as a sacrament. We also have apostolic succession but Rome thinks it doesn't count because automatic excommunication.

I get a feeling that for some reason many on this board think that protestant = Baptist. Meanwhile we here go to a Sunday mass with liturgy where we sing Agnus Dei, the priest prays facing the altar, we take the holy sacrament of eucharist at the altar railing, etc.


435019 No.652772

Welcome to Baptist historical revisionalism


896cc6 No.652774

>>652758

Politicsssss


a2e00b No.652777

>>652766

When do you think Apostolic Succession began being practised?


e88cf7 No.652782

File: 32b645fa10bee0d⋯.jpg (5.69 KB, 444x332, 111:83, 1526196822156.jpg)

>>652758

>www.catholicmemes.com

What type of normie sh*t is this?


9a7b50 No.652783

File: 8b7a5d48bce87ae⋯.png (907.95 KB, 500x1169, 500:1169, ClipboardImage.png)

>>652782

Not bad tbh


9be22c No.652794

>>652777

Let me clarify, I was quoting scripture about praying to saints, not apostolic succession.


d96b9d No.652844

File: 27eb4c1e45f2e7a⋯.jpg (68.7 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, Heresy.jpg)

>>652764

So being illiterate is a requirement?


a2e00b No.652853

>>652794

Mediums contact the dead, are the saints dead? Am i contacting them in order to gain information or power or am i asking for them to pray for me?


0852c2 No.652855

File: c11c653c007807c⋯.jpg (72.06 KB, 595x864, 595:864, 1503883833079.jpg)

>>652764

>Adam and Eve are IFB

>Martin Luther was IFB

>St. Jerome, Doctor of the Catholic Church, was IFB

In all seriousness I truly do feel for anyone who takes this seriously. I'm like 78% certain that the OP and most of the people who repost it don't.


3c6d5a No.652857

File: 2ed1c097b95413b⋯.jpg (13.78 KB, 481x499, 481:499, 2ed1c097b95413bb8e3ab39c8c….jpg)

>>652758

>all of these people believe in man-made tradition so stop believing in the Word of God you protties hahahahahaha

Narrow is the way my friend.


866444 No.652858

File: 0556f38fb053ec3⋯.gif (9.37 KB, 420x420, 1:1, 0556f38fb053ec397c93083b97….gif)

>Counting Arians as Christian

Come on, man.


dae15f No.652893

>>652857

>le man-made tradition

apostolic tradition isn't man-made, do you forget the pentecost? reject these men, and you reject Him who sent them


e8f3a4 No.652898

>how can anyone be protestant?

By reading the Bible

>durr what abot muh traditions

Mark 7

1 Then came together unto him the Catholics, and certain of the Orthodox, which came from Jerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of his disciples baptize, that is to say, with immersion, they found fault.

3 For the Catholics, and all the Orthodox, baptize by sprinkling and of babies, holding the tradition of the elders.

4 And when they come from the market, except they sprinkle they baptize not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

5 Then the Catholics and Orthodox asked Pastor Jim, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but only baptize with full imersion?

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the baptizing of babies: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

10 For Paul said, A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, Not given to wine, One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

11 But ye say, If a man marries they cannot be a bishop, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

12 And ye suffer him no more to marry;

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

>durr whata bot da fact we go back to the time of the apostles

15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.

17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.

14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:


e8f3a4 No.652901

File: d8870d0e42aca76⋯.jpeg (86.87 KB, 1024x837, 1024:837, DDC4BB0F-87B7-400C-8A7A-3….jpeg)


dae15f No.652903

>>652898

is this from the pastor anderson authorized version


dae15f No.652904

>>652898

btw, presenting modified scripture even for a joke is blasphemous, please stop


0852c2 No.652907

>>652901

In all seriousness I truly do feel for anyone who takes this seriously.


0852c2 No.652917

>>652901

Eh you know what forgive me, I shouldn't mock the mockers and I told myself I was going to purge ill will from my presence on this board. But seriously, as a historian in training images like this, especially in leu of actual historical evidence, are just an insult to the profession and only serve to highlight how poor the attempts at historical revisionism from this board's particular strain of baptists really is.


1c478d No.652922

File: 08c82d53f6cc492⋯.gif (1.6 MB, 245x180, 49:36, 08c82d53f6cc4925ceb74a0dff….gif)

>>652758

>allegedly

Strange that historical evidence often doesn't align with those invented human traditions. But sure, yeah…


866444 No.652930

File: 1bdb15807b33e1c⋯.gif (280.5 KB, 554x732, 277:366, 1bdb15807b33e1cd2d85f29180….gif)

>>652922

I know, all the Baptist traditions are totally a-historical despite how they claim to be historical.


1fc367 No.652938

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c06309 No.652951

File: 6af5504a6273dc9⋯.png (402.3 KB, 602x338, 301:169, 1526171857960.png)

>>652930

Only the teatotaler crap.

Infallible men in funny hats however….


e8f3a4 No.652953

>>652893

Where does Acts 2 even imply apostolic succession?


db14f7 No.652960

>>652951

Nice strawman. Tell me - Are all baptists trained to make unintelligent strawman non-arguments or is it just your particular brand of baptist?

Seriously. I don't get it. You guys get stuff explain to you, and the next day you pretend it never happened. To Paraphrase…

>. The Baptist had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.


e1cd4e No.652961

>>652951

>Only the teatotaler crap.

And altar calls..

And sinner prayers…

An revivals…


0852c2 No.652990

>>652961

and sola scriptura


c06309 No.653012

File: f880f01a183658a⋯.png (233.59 KB, 640x640, 1:1, f880f01a183658ae07b3547b45….png)

>>652990

>>652960

We get, you guys are illiterate.

>>652990

I sure hope it's not the equivalent of a "canon" but applied to everything within the church and what it does, rather than a measurement of scripture, as a result of something evil and nefarious….

Surely there was nothing evil that required new ways to combat heresies within the church… right?


2935b7 No.653030

>>652855

Steven Anderson will be a Doctor of the Church in a few centuries just watch


e1cd4e No.653039

>>653004

>but the sinners prayer is the same thing as calling upon the name of the Lord which is Biblical

You are missing the point.

It's still a 18th century tradition born of second great awakening culture.


2b6ff6 No.654559

>>652901

These should be in the meme thread instead


2b6ff6 No.654561

>>652855

It's really the only way if you think about it.

At least Baptists try and pretend they've been like this since the beginning.

Mainline protestants admit to being part of this one church that did the same things for centuries and then one day 1500 years after Jesus they just decided it wasn't the church anymore and they should go off and do everything pretty much the opposite.

It's completely ahistorical, yes, but it's more consistent to just pretend you were never part of the Catholic church to begin with.


6a589e No.654566

>>652960

Nice try, schlomo. Catholicism is just as bad as Judaism.


58746e No.654598

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>652758

>that pic

One does, actually. Because one goes back to the New Testament and laments that one cannot see much of this in much of Christian "Religion" today


7169ce No.654603

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