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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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1eb620 No.652557

Did the catastrophic flooding of the black sea inspired the flood narrative of Genesis?

1eb620 No.652558

File: 0dc973fd08d263e⋯.jpg (136.69 KB, 598x420, 299:210, Black Sea Bathymetry.jpg)


d8cce8 No.652559

>>652557

Didn't the flood affect the entire world enough to be mention in cultures from East Asia and other distant parts? If so I don't how the Black Sea could be the culprit, aside being closest to Noah's Ark.


212cbb No.652560

The flood actually happened


851701 No.652687

>>652557

how would mose have gotten through anatolie to the black zee?


57c11c No.652722

File: 48c919037afc39f⋯.png (19.14 KB, 526x359, 526:359, Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png)

>>652557

I think it's more likely to be Meltwater Pulse 1A. See pic attached, only imagine the trend line at the place marked as Meltwater Pulse 1A going straight upwards as opposed to merely rising steeply.

The idea is that a comet hit the kilometers-thick North American ice sheet, vaporizing huge amounts of ice, which then rained down over the world during the following days while the sea levels rose. This would have been noticed all around the planet.

Advanced civilizations tend to build things at coasts. I think the eretz (land) that was filled with evil was not the entire expanse of the planet bur rather referred to an evil civilization that may have been global in extent but had most of its stuff near sea level. The flood was enough to cause a total collapse, but tribes of primitive hunter-gatherers lived through the flood and passed down stories of what had happened.


86a7e3 No.652728

The rising sea levels 11,500 years ago inspired the story.


db6a70 No.652779

File: 0154d60d1524b1f⋯.jpg (10.26 KB, 552x305, 552:305, Teleports behind u.jpg)

>>652722

>>652557

>>652728

>>The Bible just can't possibly actually mean what it says

>It OBVIOUSLY meant NOT the whole Earth

Let me guess, the Bible borrowed from Pagan myths, right? Just like Jesus is totally Horus, right guys?

How one views Genesis can be seen as a litmus test for ones' faith in God's Word as a whole.


68ae84 No.653061

>>652779

It's actually heretical to take these stories 100% literally.


ac1fca No.653077

>>653061

yeah sure it is buddy whatever you say


dba894 No.653085

File: 755d5e1c1c7e64a⋯.jpg (35.86 KB, 252x291, 84:97, 783658356782.jpg)


d7749b No.653090

>>652557

Flood happened over the whole world not black sea. Nobody but Noah and his children survived it. It was what generated the fossil record, erosion, mountains, etc.


2b2361 No.653293

File: 8fe0338b8ae2ac1⋯.png (336.04 KB, 949x710, 949:710, 1 new light on human prehi….png)

File: 70a3e74e7c9d665⋯.png (686.32 KB, 943x705, 943:705, 2 pishon river.png)

File: 59c84e810b9e519⋯.png (577.72 KB, 947x707, 947:707, 3 extent of flood.png)

File: 470fb2ceaac4efc⋯.png (481.67 KB, 946x706, 473:353, 4 urR2.png)

>>652557

If you believe in a local flood narrative, it's more likely that the story in Genesis describes the flooding of the persian gulf oasis.


b47188 No.653296

File: e5c3be191491a74⋯.jpg (486.03 KB, 1080x1784, 135:223, SmartSelect_20180526-06555….jpg)

>>653061

Whether or not you are presupposing uniformitarianism or not when you approach the Scriptures, you can't deny that when you read the account as if it was a literal, historical event, as Genesis depicts it, it would seem the flood was universal.

This, of course, doesn't mean that it was literal; you can't deny, though, that it's a valid interpretation.


b47188 No.653297

>>653296

Sorry I wrote it like a retard; I'm walking to work.


4aeaa8 No.653299

>>653061

Well you heard it here guys, the Bible said Jesus rose from the dead in 3 days, but it's heresy to believe it.


2b7c96 No.653427

>>653296

Consider as well a few other places in scripture.

>Genesis 41:57

And all countries came into Egypt to Joseph for to buy corn; because that the famine was so sore in all lands.

>Exodus 10:15

For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

>Deuteronomy 9:1

Hear, O Israel: Thou art to pass over Jordan this day, to go in to possess nations greater and mightier than thyself, cities great and fenced up to heaven,

Were the cities in Canaan fenced up higher than anything else on the planet? Think about this for a moment. Maybe this is supposed to be true in the sense of being the tallest thing in sight, the tallest relative to where you are standing. In absolute terms even, this would be accurate as well, because extremely far-off mountains might be over the horizon and therefore not as high relative to your absolute position. Things we can know from the literal interpretation is that Noah's flood was of a magnitude never seen since, and it wiped out all descendants of Adam that were still alive, save eight souls, and of all living substance beneath it. Sorry flood geologists.




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