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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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0be5ef No.651908

I'm a descendant of Japheth. You?

322745 No.651909

>>651908

Sheeeeeeit I'm from Ham.


4a91e3 No.651910

>>651908

Japeth as well here brother. Both Name wise (he's my father in the Bible) and descendant wise based on that there map.


24a621 No.651911

>>651908

Pretty sure East Asians are also descendants of Ham, while the Indo-Caucasoids are descendants of Japheth.


3db76e No.651915

>>651911

Indo-Europeans (basically the Aryan race) are from Japheth. Semitic people like Arabs and Assyrians and the Israelite's were from Shem. Canaanites and black people are of Ham. As for Asian people, I can't find much on that. I've seen Japheth, Shem, and Ham suggested for them. What's the most likely /christian/?


24a621 No.651925

>>651924

>Negroids and Mongoloids (Asians) existed way prior to Adam.

Where in the Bible does it say this?


26470b No.651927

>>651925

It is implicated that Adam is not the first man, and given archealogical findings and research the white man is the youngest race of all, being approximately 10 000 to 6 000 years old. This is why it is said, rightly so, that Negroids are the first men, because they are. Nowhere is it stated in the first chapters of Genesis that Adam and Eve were the first male and female ever alive. They did not procreate through hyper-incest and created for unexplicable reasons different reasons. The men created on day six in the creation were given completely different orders than Adam, who was created after Sabbath. You can take it as you like, but if you take the glasses of modern church narrative off your eyes you will see that there is no fallacious conclusion.

If you want further proof just watch vid related because guy in vid explains infinitely better than I do.


26470b No.651928

>>651927

>*created for unexplicable reasons different races


f184a3 No.651929

>>651928

> unexplicable reasons

Mutations and adaptation aren't magic.

It's how negritos ended up looking like west africans, and how asians can look like everything from pale japanese, to native americans, to brown manlets.

It's how we got blues eyes, for crying out loud.


26470b No.651930

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>>651929

>Mutations and adaptation aren't magic

>believing unironically in evolution

Begone, heretic


f184a3 No.651931

>>651930

It's not macro-evolution.


0a6b2c No.651932

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>>651927

>Not thinking Adam and Eve were the first

>Not thinking that sons of Noah and their sons have spread all over the world in the mythical time before history

>Not thinking that those descendants changes over time due to climate, environment, etc.

>"Be-believe me you backward theists, my *theory* is correct despite other valid explanations out there because the youtube *experts* I like said so"


26470b No.651933

>>651932

>implying I don't believe in the Bible

>saying the current narrative about the creation makes more sense than what the Bible actually says

I don't know what to tell you, man. Believe in your pagan version of Christianity while everyone with a reasonable mind laughs and mocks creationists. It is not detrimental in what version you believe in, but in this day and age, when wanting to convert people to Christianity or at least teach them about the one true God, it is better to get your facts straight.


9a0341 No.651934

>>651908

I think it's likely we all have at least one ancestor from each son, everyone is at least a 50th cousin of everyone else right?


f184a3 No.651935

>>651933

>what the Bible actually says

No one believed this shit.

The first mention of something like this in Christendom was among a really weird sect known as the Familists, in the 1500's.

There is no "modern church narrative", because we can't find any adepts of pre-adamitism among the Church Fathers.


84b06d No.651936

>>651908

None because they didn't exist. Modern readings like that are exactly that, modern


59db75 No.651937

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>>651924

>They are not. Negroids and Mongoloids (Asians) existed way prior to Adam

>It is implicated that Adam is not the first man

hey buddy, I think you got the wrong Bible


26470b No.651940

>>651935

>No one believed this shit.

Still doesn't make the Bible invalid. Read Genesis 1 and 2 at least 100 times without any preconceived "Christian" messages, maybe you will understand, some day.

>>651937

Not saying that Negroids and Mongoloids are the chosen ones, only saying that they existed prior to Adam and the white race.


f184a3 No.651942

>>651940

>Still doesn't make the Bible invalid.

Dude, if you hold an absolute minority position in 2000 years of christian theology, that was unknown for the first 15 centuries, it's far more likely your theology is wrong, than everyone else being a heretic.

And you definetly can't invoke "muh modernist politically theology" if it's a recent-ish invention.


0a6b2c No.651943

>>651940

I think you are confused (or trying to sow discord as the agent of iniquity, or a troll). The man on the sixth day in Genesis 1, and the man after that which until then was specified as Adam who are formed from the ground in Genesis 2 are the same person. The word used for "And God said, Let us make man in our image" in Genesis 1:26 is adam in Hebrew. And after that in 1:27 which says "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." mean the spirit which was given life and made eternal soul by Genesis 2:7, when Adam was shaped out of the ground and dust.


2e3f28 No.651944

This is the shittiest thread I've ever seen on any board


4f1c32 No.651950

>>651944

Gap Theory Fag is always vigilant, waiting for threads to ruin.


ec0399 No.651955

Lebanese, probably a mix of Japheth and Shem. Not a full-blooded Middle Eastern by arab standards, but clearly not European either.


10ad29 No.651957

Everyone in this thread is descended from all of them. Going back that many generations, you're guaranteed to have many ancestors, either or both matrilineally and patrilineally, descended from each of those individuals.


4f1c32 No.651959

>>651957

/Thread.


d345d9 No.651986

File: 5e81f17c1104140⋯.gif (75.63 KB, 1224x768, 51:32, Generations of Japheth.gif)

File: 26cda3b64f1bbe7⋯.gif (93.7 KB, 1024x1058, 512:529, Generations of Ham.gif)

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>>651908

I'm catholic and believe in young Earth (watch kent Hovind honestly; put biases aside and watch)

I'm Ecuadorian, so come from the Conquistadors and the pagan Incas.


e160b3 No.651989


bf9daf No.651995

>>651931

"'Creationists believe in microevolution but not macroevolution.' These terms, which focus on ‘small’ v. ‘large’ changes, distract from the key issue of information. That is, particles-to-people evolution requires changes that increase genetic information (e.g., specifications for manufacturing nerves, muscle, bone, etc.), but all we observe is sorting and, overwhelmingly, loss of information. We are hardpressed to find examples of even ‘micro’ increases in information, although such changes should be frequent if evolution were true. Conversely, we do observe quite ‘macro’ changes that involve no new information, e.g. when a control gene is switched on or off. Importantly, the term microevolution will be seen by many as just a ‘little bit’ of the process that they think turned bacteria to people. In other words, it implies that simply given enough time (millions of years), such ‘micro’ changes will accumulate to amount to ‘macro’ changes. But this is not so…

Interestingly, even high profile evolutionists (e.g. Mayr, Ayala) disagree with the idea that the observed small changes in living things are sufficient to account for the grand scheme of microbes-to-mankind evolution." - Creation Ministries International's Arguments Creations Should Not Use Article

"'Macroevolution' is a favourite word of creationists. In truth, it's simply what you get when microevolution goes on for very a long time." - Richard Dawkins on his Twitter account, Nov. 25, 2015


2ce951 No.652002

>>651995

>Richard Dawkins

Wew.


f184a3 No.652015

>>651995

>We are hardpressed to find examples of even ‘micro’ increases in information, although such changes should be frequent if evolution were true.

Information increase in yeast is why we have beer.

Also, copy-number variation is literally this.


6d5bb6 No.652028

>>651986

These pics show little to no familiarity with the ancient world and subsequent developments and also seem polluted by Christian Identity we wuzism


777168 No.652038

>>651935

This. The only non literal explanation I accept is from Saint Augustine or around that time. And I'm a biologist. Adam and Eve were the first homo sapiens (doesn't matter how they came into being I remember if I'm not wrong that Augustine said that they came from dust or something is allegorical) and everyone who says otherwise (unless I said something contrary to the Faith without realising it) should be excommunicated from the Holy Roman Catholic Church.


777168 No.652040

>>651940

What if Adam and Eve were tiggers?


777168 No.652042

>>652040

*tiggers


f24671 No.652047

>>651908

Yeah, my family is Turkish, so I'm gonna go ahead and say none of them.


cdb9a2 No.652074

>>651950

>Gap Theory

It's more than that, it's Christian Identity pre-adamite theory. It's actually a form of judaizing that concludes whites are jews/israel and therefore should follow the Old Testament and Gospels, and rejects the writings of Paul. It openly contradicts the book of Romans, Hebrews and others. They also cannot explain the book of Acts. But of course they wouldn't start by telling you that.


f87017 No.652075

none, im not a jew


9a470f No.652103

>>652042

/\/IGGERS


22e080 No.652157

>>651915

Japeth or Shem, perhaps even a mix of their descendants.


a6edd6 No.652158

>>651908

I'm not a jew, so none.


5e6108 No.652184


357a0f No.652690

>>651911

>Ham

East Asians are Semites.

so don't be antisemitic to me


404940 No.652866

What about hispanic people?

I have ancestors that are European Spanish and indigenous Mexican (Purepecha, specifically).


2ce951 No.652877

>>652866

Kind of all three, really. The Spanish were mostly of Tarshishan descent ad had some admixture with Shem and Hams descendants, and Mesoamericans are largely Japhethite (from prehistoric Asians over the Bering land bridge) and possibly Ham guessing from shared genes.


e45f47 No.652987

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>>651915

>>652157

>>652690

East Asian here, it's quite evident that East Asians are descendants of Ham (who was also the father of the African people). I've heard arguments that East Asians are "semetic" but I find the arguments to be borderline racist against black people. Pic somewhat related showing Africans and East Asians do look somewhat alike (at least moreso than Indo-Caucasoids and the Semetic race). God made each race unique and ultimately He is our Creator.




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