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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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5db5ca No.645865

Who's the Martin Luther of Islam and Judaism?

740296 No.645866

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>>645865

>Martin Luther of Judaism

Guess.


230d1d No.645869

>>645866

Luther?


8afdb3 No.645870

>>645865

>Martin Luther of Islam

No one, Islam is to narrowminded and thud denies any kind of reformation.

>Judaism

Perhaps Rabbi Akiva, who played large role in formation of Talmud and reformation of old testament faith to modern day Judaism.

Counterpart of Zionist and Judeophile Christians in Judaism would be Messianic Jews and most notably Rabbi Ignatz Lichtenstein.


f11e97 No.645893

>>645865

>Martin Luther of Islam

Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

>Martin Luther of Judaism

Jesus of Nazareth


230d1d No.645906

>>645893

>comparing Jesus to a heretic who's sent billions of souls to hell

Repent, this is an extremely grave insult


d5cc3c No.645921

>>645906

Why? The Jews consider Him worse.


f11e97 No.645922

>>645906

Jesus of Nazareth literally reformed Judaism.


8afdb3 No.645925

>>645922

>Jesus of Nazareth literally reformed Judaism.

Judaism is a "sister" faith to Christianity, not the ancestor. That would be OT faith.


bbc956 No.645926

>>645906

>not worshipping G-d a certain way means eternal damnation

Wow, such a kind master you have.


081e5b No.645930

>Martin Luther of Islam

Abu Bakr, tbh.

Glorious Ahlulbayt>>>>>>Sunni dogs


f11e97 No.645936

>>645925

Catholicism is a "sister" faith to Protestantism, not the ancestor.

Did you misunderstand OP's hypothetical?


847388 No.645944

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>>645925

>Judaism

>sister faith

>implying we have the same God as (((them)))


b8734a No.645946

>>645944

I think you understood well what I meant by that.

>>645936

No. Judiasm is new faith that emerged from old testament faith after the codification if the oral Torah in Mishnah and Gemara, that is known as Talmud by the Pharisee that were opposing Christians and Sadducees. It would be wrong to say that Judaism is same as old testament faith, though if you insist on using the term, you should say second temple Judaism.


d4b46d No.646026

>>645906

You're giving the analogy more credibility, friend.


3bcdf6 No.646033

>>645865

Who cares? They're both Babylonian bullshit and so is communism. Lots of paranormal forums are filled with jews/muslims/fedoras who drool at the sight of Babylonian symbols. It's creepy.


c4513d No.646047

>>645865

Judaism? Probably Caiaphas. That's where Judaism really began as the splinter heresy of the religion of Israel, with the denial of the fulfillment of the old covenant.


b04442 No.646063

>>646026

What makes you think what I said is incorrect? How is what he did defensible in any way?


b04442 No.646065

>>645922

Luther deformed Christianity with no authority but his own while being a theological brainlet and the results show. Ask two different protestants what do you need to do to be saved and you will receive two different answers every time, for example.


7065b9 No.646075

>>646063

I'm saying that Catholics view Luther similar to how Talmudists view Jesus, with the same fiery hatred.


230d1d No.646086

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>>646075

>you hate a heresiarch so you'd also have hated the objectively correct Son and prophet of God

So tiresome


7065b9 No.646089

>>646086

Do you know what an analogy is anon?


230d1d No.646100

>>646089

Do you know what a bad analogy is anon?


7065b9 No.646106

>>646100

But your Prager post insinuates that you don't understand the parallelism of an analogy. You don't cross-compare the subjects of the relations. It's the respective relationships themselves which are drawing a similarity. Honestly, you seem to be very low IQ and I'm going to end this conversation before you embarrass yourself further.


a8491e No.646109

>>645865

There cannot be a Martin Luther of these two heretic religions because both originate from Babylonian and Talmudic/Jewish mysticism. Martin Luther was against the Jewish infiltration and atrocities that were committed within the Catholic church, this is why he wanted to reform the Catholic church in the first place.


230d1d No.646113

>>646106

>don't you dare point out the inconsistencies which render my analogy a bad example else I'll get offended and call you dumb

How exciting


41ed82 No.646173

>>646109

Wrong. It was because he was a lusty monk, sweetie.


ce2dd2 No.646175

They dont have one because religions behave in different ways. It's like trying to say "who is the caliph of Hinduism".


025cab No.646176

>>645865

Who cares. THis is /christian/ not /genericReligion/

also >>645866

lol


71900a No.646218

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>>645865

>>645936

Judaism is a "cousin faith", that's it. There is a complete difference between Jews nowadays and "Jews" then. Nowadays it is Rabbinic Judaism which is a "Reform" of the Hebrews religion, a reaction against the Christians by the Pharisees. Lutherianism can't be compared, it is the plain NEGATION of major aspects of the faith and the practice of Christians in the middle-ages and the Antiquity, based on the sole anger of a (((fat man))).

>>645893

>Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

True. Especially since his theology was adopted by most of the actual muslims (under the impulse of the Muslim Brotherhood, but not only) because it seemed much closer to the anglo-saxon rational approach of scriptures which (with modernity etc) submitted them (colonialism). They had therefore to "reform" the way they thought and basically started rejecting mystical theology etc.


5ac73b No.647777

>>645922

I know who's getting a 2 on the AP Computer Science.


d15621 No.647782

>>647777

checked




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