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Does he acknowledge the resurrection as true?

Asking because that's one of the main reasons I stepped over into the faith from esoteric beliefs.

>>643687

Tell him the Bible is the Book of the Supernatural and he's missing out by not reading it.

>>643687

Gnosticism collapses on itself like a house of cards if you point out the logical inconsistencies.

Tell him he needs to stop being mad at his dad.

>>643687

tell him to stop browsing /asatru/

>>643696

and /pol/

>>643687

Laugh at him the next time he panics when a demon goes to him when he does drugs

>>643692

>>643690

I never asked him directly about resurrection, but he believes that the Bible is full of hidden messages and that Jesus was actually a spirit medium.

>>643694

His parents are liberal uni professors who are apparently also into this kind of stuff.

>>643703

Ask him if he's actually read the bible. Lots of esoteric bois just parrot what gnostics say all the time without any foundation for their belief.

>>643703

>but he believes that the Bible is full of hidden messages

This is wrong due to two verses. The first is 2 peter 1:20

>Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

And matthew 5:37

>But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Jesus means what He says in God's word for His yea is His yea. The meaning is "very plain(ly)" deuteronomy 27:8. Do you think that the Bible has hidden messages? Maybe it is hid to those without eyes to see matthew 11:25

>At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

2 corinthians 4:3-4

>But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

>In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

>>643687

My mother converted after she read a Case for Christ. After you discover that the resurrection is actually one of the best documented events in history, something the media and school never teaches us, it's a domino effect.

There's a movie now, I think.

It's probably brainlet tier but so is your friend.

City of God, by St. Augustine.

Augustine was an all-star pagan student for a good 30 years before he converted to Christianity, and frankly, OBLITERATED most of the pagan "philosophy" quite handedly.

There's also another issue where modern /fringe/ gnostics don't actually teach history, for instance: that most of early Christianity spent a lot of its time waging doctrinal war on gnostic heresiarchs.

I didn't even know until recently that St. John the Apostle argued with gnostics in his time.

>>643708

Movie is good if you want to get an idea of Strobel's journey. Hard evidence stick to the book

>>644211

yea same, when i saw the movie when i was still pretty new to this, i thought this doesn't tell me anything;but when i read the book, i saw his case laid out pretty well and the cases of the people he'd interviewed. Good book would recommend alongside mere Christianity.

>>643687

Kill him. This way he will be forced to see God is not some karma bullshit.

>#420blazeit

>>643911

And Paul also.

Can anyone explain that gnostic Spurdo meeme?

>>643687

You ? You can't. The Holy Spirit can convert him - through you. Pray for insight for both, you and him, and pray that he might convert. Best thing to do that: The Rosary.

https://www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

>>644589

This post is a disgusting promotion of apathy. The apostles weren't murdered for just praying in their homes.

>>643693

What are the logical inconsistencies of gnosticism? I don't know much about gnosticism.

>>644614

Did you even read what I wrote ? Great reading comprehension right there, mate. I'm not saying he shall not do anything. I'm saying he can't do it by himself, therefore he needs to pray FOR INSIGHT for himself as well as the person in question.