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>>634382

>Aryan religion

There were no "Aryan" people. Aryan is just a title.

>>634386

Funny. You really think street shitters came up with the so called hinduism? Same people who get cellphones before they get toilets?

Stupida fahkin guy

>>634417

Hinduism isn't exactly a great cultural achievement.

>>634424

Yeah i agree on that

Ex-Hindu here :

I am not much of a scholar myself but I can clear some questions:

1.Why did I left hinduism?

well hinduism follows the concept of polytheism , which did not sit right with me ever since i was born (i was born in india to a hindu family). as in the video hindus do say that there is one god but they are the same people which worship different gods ( 1000 of gods, i am not joking) through thousands of different rituals, which merely reduces them to being hypocrites in my opinion.

Also the fact that god is in us is argued by many people in India, that if god is inside us then why do we commit crime, why are some humans bad, why does the concept of good and bad even exist, to which i have never found a good reply. the bible gives a very good answer to this, you would already know that.

plus what the man in video talked about upanishads, he clearly left out how many diiferent ancient indian books have different opinions about different events and trust me no hindu believes in god existing in a microscopic world, they have their own concept of heaven known as SWARGA and literally no uniformity in their texts throughout history, unlike christianity which has stayed same more or less throughout history.

another fact about hinduism which i feel is that they just have great epics like mahabharats but no substance, which reduces the religion to a childish maybe teenager point of view.

I personally was heavily influenced by the bible and C.S. Lewis book "mere christianity" which kind of has strengthened my faith for the past few months and it now only await baptization.

I would recomend checking out C.s. lewis book " mere christianity" it's a good book in my opinion.

please note that itt i have not referred to hindu people (who mostly are confused and "hypocritical" as a personal point) because there are good people and bad people everywhere and stating the person is bad because of his beliefs would be very unchristian in my opinion.

>>634433

God bless you man good testimony

>>634433

Many thanks for your journey. I had a professor from India that raised the same issues you had.

Here's an interesting you tube channel that illustrates C.S. Lewis work

>>634517

Great channel! Thanks for the find!

>>634517

Thanks for the YouTube channel.

>>634382

I just posted an argument against the vid, not bullet proof just somethings I dislike about hindu philosophies

>No, this video is incorrect. The title is a lie. Hinduism obfuscates God and gives people a false sense of godhood. On the one hand it claims to cure or overcome the ego, on the other hand it tells the ego it is literally God and it is beyond good and evil. And all it has to do is repeat mantras or do certain meditations to "realize it is God"… Hilarious.

We might be made in the image of God and share divine qualities, but we are not 1 to 1 identical with Brahman/God. Brahman never becomes "confused" he doesn't play "hide-and-seek" with himself, he doesn't need to "realize his own enlightenment" etc…This is all nonsense, metaphorically and literally. Fundamentally all the advanced sects of hinduism claim that at the highest level of their practice there is absolutely no difference between God and individual consciousness/awareness. And that "realizing" this claim is sat-chit-ananda aka nirvana aka freedom from all bondage and immortality. Anyone who analyzes these claims will see that they are false and nonsensical.The few folks who have "convinced" themselves of these claims throughout history have become gurus who are literally idolized and treated as God-idols by their followers. And this isn't surprising since their metaphysics identifies realized beings with God itself. Absurd. So you have a system that is essentially solipsistic, absolute idealism, and identifies God with each individual who convinces himself that he is in fact God.

There are so many things wrong with this philosophy I don't feel like outlining everything. But here are some points:

#1 God does not and will never be "deluded" and in need of "realization" to be "free". You are not God, and never will be.

#2 God does not suffer from "maya" or illusions, never has and never will. Your being/consciousness/awareness is not God, never will be.

#3 God is omnipotent and omniscient and beyond time and space, no Guru ever had any of these properties, no hindu will ever have any of these properties.

#4 The world is not an "illusion" your body is not something you have to overcome or detach from, you were actually born, you will actually die, these are not phantasms you need to "see through".

#5 there are no true "realizations" to be had about the Hindu God, only beliefs you repeat and meditate on, and eventually through repetitive self-hyponsis these beliefs convince you and trick you, and you fall prey to brainwashing. You will never have any sidhis and you will never attain moksha. Best to humble yourself and realize you are a creation of God, not God himself. Don't be foolish, flee from this nonsense

>Sanatana Dharma

>Satana Dharma

>Satan Dharma

yep, it checks out.

>>634929

>>634382

true, also there are so many instances in hindu epics where the god has sinned and died as a result from it, which makes you question their authenticity.

Like in many instances 1.Krishna the most famous god :

a) Is a playboy, who likes to play with maidens heart with his flute, i am not joking that is his selling point.

b) This same god commits many sins in a great war mahabharat, like fooling people, telling lies, that in the end he is cursed, loses his family and is killed by a hunter.

c) he is one of the gods who is said to have a 9000 wives and only visits them once. It seems he was written by a lustful person and saying he was a god and not satan himself is a joke.

2.there is also this god Vishnu who kills his own son because his son was protecting his mother and due to a misunderstanding his father vishnu kills him.

3.there is this god of lecherous activities(something like kama from kamasutra) like seriously saying hindus follow a 1000 gods is an understatement .

4.there is this god Rama who is unable to resolve a misunderstanding between his father and his many wives(what's with hindus and polygamy) and gets exiled due to this.

5.there is this god ganesha who cannot stop eating sweets and thats his selling pont rides a rat and practices gluttony. WOW that''s a god or a sinner you decide.

These things sound cool but are no different from lotr or harry potter just a bunch of fiction ,

no wonder hindus and indians have so many problems. rape, crime, lack of basic sanitation.

I tell you they are mad people to believe in such things, not to be mean but come on it's really hard to believe such things.

>>634979

Im more or less talking about their metaphysic understanding of God, theres also a reason why many physicist give homage to Cern. For ex: Cern.

>>634979

>>634985

>>634929

what is their understanding of the Brahman? I know it's framed as the ultimate, true reality and that everything and everyone is a part of it, and that some views see our experience of that reality as a sort of dream of the Brahman (or playing hide and seek with himself like the anon said), but they don't understand him (it) as a personal being, do they? Its more an underlying hidden force, correct? I take it they don't share the concept that that we philosophically use as the 'maximally great being'? Is the Brahman considered perfect as we consider God to be? Another question I can't get my head around is their approach to morality - one of the things that pushed me into looking into asking the big questions and into religion etc is the need to affirm the reality of objective morality in order to not go insane - how does the Hindu approach address this question? There must be a more in-depth answer than 'they don't/can't' but ultimately by the very nature of their metaphysic I can't see how they escape that conclusion? If they do see it as perfect how can they claim it has moral perfection? fwiw i'm so pranged out about my lack of knowledge on other religions i spent a shedload of money yesterday on books from amazon which will hopefully address some of these questions, these two in particular looked pretty promising http://amzn.eu/4EVwxwn & http://amzn.eu/3bZKRM7