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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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73d7ad No.632413

Why is fornication a sin? I understand one night stands are morally wrong but what’s wrong with sex in a straight monogamous relationship before marriage?

b5bcbf No.632416

That its before marriage, read your Bible


dc93a8 No.632418

>>632413

if you can't wait until marriage it means sex for you is more important than marriage. Marriage is a Sacrament. Of course putting sexual desire over a Sacrament is a sin, anon


137919 No.632420

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>>632413

Because God says so.


936e81 No.632423

>>632413

Just get married.


8f16dd No.632425

>>632418

>Marriage is a Sacrament

nice meme


dc93a8 No.632426

>>632425

it's not a meme


9295be No.632431

>>632425

Traditional marriage is.

Not the perversion of future no fault divorces our legal system supports.


8a2fe8 No.632446

>>632420

>nor homosexuals

what false bible translation is that from?


f3867f No.632447

>>632418

I used to agree with that but now that whole “it’s more important” thing seems silly to me now. If two people love each other why not? What is marriage in the eyes of God even?


abd9b2 No.632448

>>632447

Sex is not only about love, it's supposed to create kids

Sex is also restricted to marriage in order to minimize illegitimate offspring


c92a7f No.632455

>>632413

Does anybody have the infographic with the correlation between cohabitation and intercourse before marriage and increased rates of divorce?

Asking for OP.


4a0a03 No.632458

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>>632455

I have a few so take your pick.

(One picture contains the same graph twice but with more information in it).


77654a No.632470

>>632455

>>632458

I’m not talking about doing it with random people. Two in a monogamous long term relationship.


4a0a03 No.632472

>>632470

>Two in a monogamous long term relationship.

OK, but what's stopping them getting married though?


dc93a8 No.632485

>>632447

>If two people love each other why not?

you are equating sex with love. If you love someone you can wait until marriage; if you think not putting benis in bagina will make you stop loving them then you clearly don't love that person. Furthermore, and more importantly, if you love God you fill follow his c commandments. Fornication (i.e. sex outside the Sacrament of marriage) is against his commandments. Rejecting it because you love yourself and coitus more than God is clearly disorderly and sinful.

>What is marriage in the eyes of God even?

It is a Sacrament. Marriage is a pact between three, that is, between you, your wife and God.


77654a No.632486

>>632485

Again. You’re making huge assumptions. Someone can desire to have premartial sex but put it off because of a relationship. Wanting sex doesn’t mean putting it above the other person.


4a0a03 No.632490

>>632486

So, again, if two such people are in a (supposedly stable) monogamous, long-term relationship, why would they not just get married?


9b5865 No.632493

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>>632446

>Condemnation of homosexuality is not biblical


b3b5b5 No.632494

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>Why is fornication a sin?

God says it is so then it is.

Also it's bad for you.


dc93a8 No.632496

>>632486

Are you functionally illiterate or just b8ing? I hope for you it's the latter.


b3b5b5 No.632497

>>632493

Hebdidn't say that. He just asked what version it is.


168c94 No.632502

>>632413

Sex is rightly ordered to its unitive and procreative purposes. The proper place for procreation is in a family. Easy.


0f9a89 No.632510

>>632490

>why would they not just get married?

Not to be that guy, but nowadays there is a huge divorce industry going on.

It has become profitable for many THOTs to make tactical fast marriages and get handsomely rewarded in cash after divorce.

If divorce was forbbiden I would agree with every anti-fornication post ITT. But we don't live in such a time.

But with divorce industry going on delaying and being very reluctant about marriage saves your family assets.


a13ea0 No.632525

Because you're not in an actual committed relationship under God. It's easy to jump from relationship to relationship having sex. Sex was created by God for procreation and the ultimate act of love. Sex without a marriage bond cheapens the relationship to something animalistic. It doesn't last and prevents love from developing.

So commit already instead of having the benefits of marriage without the hard part!


168c94 No.632530

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

You wanna know why? Here's why. Because consequence free sex necessarily leads to consequences. Because biking in Europe and making money is no exchange for raising a child. Pray for this woman.


4a0a03 No.632533

>>632510

>Not to be that guy, but nowadays there is a huge divorce industry going on.

>It has become profitable for many THOTs to make tactical fast marriages and get handsomely rewarded in cash after divorce.

Only because the men they married were spineless enough to let them walk all over them, or aggravated their spouses to wanting nothing to do with them (and honestly there is no shortage of this today). And yes, I know that we can extrapolate the causes this whole issue from the man and women themselves, their families, friends to society, but as much of a patriarchalist as I am, if a marriage fails, it's probably the man's fault for being weak and refusing to take control, or being ecessively zealous about it (which is in turn just another form of weakness). If you are a married man and don't look to St Joseph as your guide and inspiration in the married state, then forget it.

>If divorce was forbbiden I would agree with every anti-fornication post ITT. But we don't live in such a time.

This is a defeatist attitude. "Once upon a time" is not a legitimate defence, and it's the same one used by any lukewarm sort when confronted with a controversial topic.

<I don't know man, I mean in the 19th century you bet i'd be opposed to gay marriage and female ordination, but times have changed …

Never, ever give up! By the grace of God we can reverse this!


137919 No.632555

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>632530

I thought it would have a pro-life ending, but she shows absolutely no remorse. Even wanted to look at the bloodied aborted fetus when it was taken out and dumped in a bag. Amazing.


f57892 No.632606

Look at what Thomas Aquinas wrotr back in the middle ages. That should at least give you an outline of an argument.

http://dhspriory.org/thomas/ContraGentiles3b.htm#122


563f06 No.632692

>>632470

and if those two don't end up being married the partner they were sleeping with will be listed as a premarital sexual partner.

Those graphs are definitely still relevant, whether you originally saw them that way or not.


dcf2ce No.632782

>>632458

>all these redpills in one post

Good work, anon.


dcf2ce No.632783

>>632530

>Pray for this woman.

I'd rather not. She seems like a terrible person.


abd9b2 No.632785

>>632783

All the more reason to pray for her


7fc35f No.632794

>>632525

That turns the holy mystery of marriage into just being God's approval for consommating one another. Come on now.

>Sex without a marriage bond cheapens the relationship to something animalistic

>It doesn't last and prevents love from developing

You've never had premarital sex, huh? It's good, but then you clearly show you don't know what it's like.

>>632413

Marriage is a sacrament. It mystically unites two persons so that they become one, in spirit and sacramentally, thus uniting them also to Christ. It crowns a man and a woman as the head of the household, which is itself a church. Man becomes united to woman just as Christ is united to His Church.

You shouldn't become one flesh without being one in marriage first. You are not yet mystically united and submitted to one another, so you're just desecrating a body that is an icon of God.


7588d0 No.632798

>>632458

This is just a whole bunch of cases of someone going " X is related to Y therefore X causes Y" ignoring the tonne of factors that cause X that likely also influence Y.

I wish people wouldn't do this, it doesn't serve anyone well and it's just dishonest.


43a076 No.632801

>>632420

No, Paul says so. I consider myself a Christian, but I've yet to believe that the Holy Spirit was speaking through him.

I can't believe that things like hair length are actually cared about by God.


92940c No.632802

cause babies deserve stable mothers and fathers, not "boyfriends and girlfriends", and premarital sex will result in babies if you're doing it right and raw


7c1f36 No.632834

>>632423

What if they live in a country where it takes months to be married? There are some countries where the government interferes too much in people's lives.


7fc35f No.632850

>>632834

I've been waiting 7 years to marry my girlfriend because we were underage for most of that time, and now she needs to become a catechumen and convert before the Church can marry us.

There are no excuses. Wait until marriage, because you're not sacamentally united until then.


1174ba No.632974

>>632785

This guy gets it


0f7c53 No.632981

>>632413

I knew a couple in college who had been together since high school and they were waiting until marriage to preserve her purity. I thought to myself, "Well, good for them! Nice to see a young couple engaging in moral actions." Found out later they were doing butt stuff because "anal doesn't count".

I died a little.


ff3ef1 No.643473

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>>632801

>I can't believe that things like hair length are actually cared about by God.

You're confusing the Mosaic Law (Old Covenant) with the New Covenant which is to Love God with all your heart, soul, and being. Answer me this question, under which Covenant did Adam live under after the Fall? Apparently somebody had to teach Cain and Abel how to perform sacrifices in the first place.

O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day. (Psalm 119:97)


440a06 No.643475

>>632413

>tfw raised to believe you should only have sex after you're married but fell into apostasy and now I've got the worst of both worlds as a person that'd go straight to hell if my parents are right and a virgin loser that's only looking to sleep with one woman ever to my nonreligious friends/community.


7ed4e3 No.643478

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>>632981

big wew


ef8ec1 No.643592

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>>632470

>not martied

>long term monogamous relationship

tell me another one


0c7b21 No.644257

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>>632420

How drunkard-like is "not going to heaven" drunk?


b1b13f No.644337

>>632446

The TR.


4d547b No.644356

>>632413

It's called "common law marriage". Depends on your jurisdiction whether the courts recognize such a marriage.


548519 No.644362

>>644356

That's for legal purposes. Holy matrimony has nothing to do with whether your government recognizes it, only your church. If you want to be married, you need to make the vows in front of an ordained minister.

Same goes for the rest of you in this thread. Legally endorsed 'marriage' is a sham that we acquiesce to because it makes the paperwork easier. If you've said the vows in front of a priest, you're married, regardless of whether you have a marriage license. If you haven't said the vows in front of an ordained minister, you're not married, whether you have a marriage license or not.

As to OP's original question, there are only two possibilities here. Either:

1) The couple is going to get married eventually, in which case there's no reason not to wait for marriage, especially if you get off your duff and marry her. Waiting was one of the best decisions I ever made, and not waiting causes a whole host of issues, the greatest of which is separating yourself from God by sinning. The Bible doesn't say to wait until you really love somebody. It says to wait until marriage.

2) The couple is not going to get married, in which case you have not only sinned against the Lord, you have committed adultery against your future wife.

Either get married or keep it in your pants, and repent for even thinking such a thing is ok.


52beb6 No.644776

>>643473

You seem to be misdirection here. It was paul who said that men should have short hair and women should have long hair.


52beb6 No.644777

>>644776

*misdirecting


4d547b No.644796

>>644362

The Bible talks about marriage many times, but think about what the New Testament talks about the marriage procedure. It talks about wedding feasts and the groom arriving at night with a shout. Ordained ministers doing specific ceremonies notably do not make an appearance.

Think about the Acts of the Apostles. Many of the people in it were married. Yet when the apostles baptize someone and his entire household, there is no mention of performing a Christian marriage ceremony so that the man and his wife are no longer living in sin. Marriage in Greece and Rome was considered a civil contract, and the apostles implicitly accepted its validity. In fact marriage as a Christian religious ceremony didn't get its start until later.


323a03 No.644829

>>644796

What, then, makes a marriage?


5337d5 No.644978

Having sex is a sin tbh but due to the coldness of your hearts God pardons you.


cc16aa No.645053

>>644776

Perhaps he's talking about proper gender roles instead of literally hair length?


502ca9 No.645055

>>644796

> In fact marriage as a Christian religious ceremony didn't get its start until later.

Proof on that.


b0c9cc No.653705

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>>644257

I guess you'll find out once you end up in the place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. I'm not here to win an argument, just giving you a message, it's up to you to do whatever you want with it.

>>632801

>I consider myself a Christian, but I've yet to believe that the Holy Spirit was speaking through him.

You're just as much a Christian as a Mormon. Have you forgotten Matthew 7:21?


605e4f No.653728

>>644829

The bible doesn't actually define what makes a a marriage. The bare minimum it seems is sex.

This also answers OPs question - sex in a straight monogamous relationship before marriage isn't a thing, at that point you're basically married but without the pompous ceremony and government acknowledgement. And yes, this means that a breakup from a relationship he talks about would be the same as divorce. And we know what Jesus thinks about divorce.

There's a reason that Paul said that marriage is probably not worth it.


d055aa No.653817

>>643592

>"… your sins Grover, all 1,048,576 of 'em."

Grover has been around 50 years now, or 18418 days. That's only 57 sins a day.

He breathes, say, 45,000 times a day.

His every breath not 279% devoted to God is a sin, for the one who gave us breath deserves every one of them back.

That should say

<"… your sins Grover, all 795,648,576 of 'em."

You'll never pay them back, Grover. You don't have 800 million perfect lives to give.

Best rely on Christ alone, Grover.


eef21a No.653825

>>632413

You give in to desires of flesh and what good comes out of it? I've had numerous partners in straight monogamous relationships. Not a single one led to marriage and our God given purpose and joy of family.


28acb9 No.653850

It is written (Tobit 4:13): "Take heed to keep thyself . . . from all fornication, and beside thy wife never endure to know a crime." Now crime denotes a mortal sin. Therefore fornication and all intercourse with other than one's wife is a mortal sin.

Further, nothing but mortal sin debars a man from God's kingdom. But fornication debars him, as shown by the words of the Apostle (Galatians 5:21), who after mentioning fornication and certain other vices, adds: "They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God." Therefore simple fornication is a mortal sin.

Further, it is written in the Decretals (XXII, qu. i, can. Praedicandum): "They should know that the same penance is to be enjoined for perjury as for adultery, fornication, and wilful murder and other criminal offenses." Therefore simple fornication is a criminal or mortal sin.

Without any doubt we must hold simple fornication to be a mortal sin, notwithstanding that a gloss [St. Augustine, QQ. in Deut., qu. 37 on Deuteronomy 23:17], says: "This is a prohibition against going with whores, whose vileness is venial." For instead of "venial" it should be "venal," since such is the wanton's trade.

On order to make this evident, we must take note that every sin committed directly against human life is a mortal sin. Now simple fornication implies an inordinateness that tends to injure the life of the offspring to be born of this union. For we find in all animals where the upbringing of the offspring needs care of both male and female, that these come together not indeterminately, but the male with a certain female, whether one or several; such is the case with all birds: while, on the other hand, among those animals, where the female alone suffices for the offspring's upbringing, the union is indeterminate, as in the case of dogs and like animals.

Now it is evident that the upbringing of a human child requires not only the mother's care for his nourishment, but much more the care of his father as guide and guardian, and under whom he progresses in goods both internal and external. Hence human nature rebels against an indeterminate union of the sexes and demands that a man should be united to a determinate woman and should abide with her a long time or even for a whole lifetime.

Hence it is that in the human race the male has a natural solicitude for the certainty of offspring, because on him devolves the upbringing of the child: and this certainly would cease if the union of sexes were indeterminate.

This union with a certain definite woman is called matrimony; which for the above reason is said to belong to the natural law. Since, however, the union of the sexes is directed to the common good of the whole human race, and common goods depend on the law for their determination, it follows that this union of man and woman, which is called matrimony, is determined by some law.

Wherefore, since fornication is an indeterminate union of the sexes, as something incompatible with matrimony, it is opposed to the good of the child's upbringing, and consequently it is a mortal sin.

Nor does it matter if a man having knowledge of a woman by fornication, make sufficient provision for the upbringing of the child: because a matter that comes under the determination of the law is judged according to what happens in general, and not according to what may happen in a particular case.


065e18 No.653963

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>>644257

Probably if it becomes life consuming, like you need to drink every day. There's nothing really wrong some drinks every now and then though.


c0ea76 No.654265

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Sex is meant to imitate and show the sheer, powerful unity of the covenantal relationship first between the Persons of the Trinity, second between God and His people, and finally to complete the image of God, man and wife, as one flesh.

To copulate without covenant is to mock that image of God, hence why fornicators are evil.

>>632801

"And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability" (2 peter 3:15-17)

Begone Muhammad!

>>643473

>Love God with all your heart, soul, and being

Which comes from the Mosaic Law first, which also forms the basis of the law. And those who belittle the least of the laws of God, Moses or not, will be least in the Kingdom. (See Matthew 5:17-19, James 2:10) Begone Marcion!

>>645053

No, 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 is about literal hair length because it fits the proper gender roles. (And btw, a woman's long hair serves as a covering per verse 15c, so she does not need an artificial one, so it's not about artificial head coverings either as some would believe. In fact, to make women wear coverings yet allowing them to cut the length of their hair is perhaps more heinous against God's created sexual roles. God hates the lukewarm)


428ae9 No.654285

>>653728

^Never read the Bibles' definition of marriage, eh?

In a marriage, the husband provides for the wife and children. The wife is subordinate to her husband, and it is the role of both to raise their children to be upright members of the faith. It is clearly outlined as more than just sex. There are also specific moral laws in Leviticus for marriage. Jesus taught the importance of a lifelong marriage, and how it is sacred. For God Himself to use marriage as a symbol for His love for the Church shows how tremendously important it is, enough to be called a sacrament.

It is far from being "probably not worth it", you completely misunderstand what Paul is saying in that passage.


c0ea76 No.654295

>>653728

>There's a reason that Paul said that marriage is probably not worth it.

He did not say that.

When will you guys, every ascetic 4th cen. onward, admit you abused 1 Corinthians 7 to hell and back to grossly beat married people and singles over the head with false shame?


90f8e6 No.654316

>>653817

>breathing is a sin

absolute madman


36af3e No.654485

>>632431

pretty sure Christ would still consider that a lawful marriage


36af3e No.654486

>>654295

Who? When?

Marriage has always been considered a blessed vocation, but celibacy done in imitation of Our Lord is of equal merit; no, even better.


be033c No.654493

Fornication harms your marriage. You're creating deep spiritual ties with someone who is not your partner, and your eventual marital bond will be less because of it. Heck, you don't even need a bible to know this. Even a secular humanist can derive a morality for celibacy before marriage using purely biological imperatives.


3db617 No.654494

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>>632606

>Aquinas


055c10 No.654537

>>632470

Because there is nothing holding you together. Christian marriage is a certain way for a reason. When you go up to the altar and say that you are going to be with this person until death, you are making a promise that you cannot keep on your own. You do not know what lies ahead.

Marriage is important because when you get married in a church, surrounding by a congregation, they will hold you to that marriage.

When your love fades and it's not as fun anymore having sex with this person, you still have to stay together and build something meaningful. There's no leaving.

Because marriage is hard. It's the ultimate act of empathy, of one person relating to another (man to woman, which is significant also because men and women are naturally different from each other, you need to consider the "Other" to make it work). If you bail when you encounter your first problem, you just end up both taking your problems with you into your next relationship and destroying that too. Because you never resolved them.

"Monogamous long term relationships" are a meme. Most of the time they last five or ten years and disintegrate and you move onto the next one which will probably be shorter. All the while, you keep that escape pod ready knowing that if you don't like what's going on you can leave and justify it to yourself.


22e916 No.654946

I think a lot of you are missing OP's point. He's saying that Paul is the only man strictly against sex before marriage. We are trying to find out the desire of God, and in the Biblical text, the only person explicitly against sex before marriage as done by the priest seems to be Paul. Now I can get into the usual cases and list the arguments and counterarguments, but what we are trying to determine is where in the Bible does it show that it is God's will that sex before marriage not be done? Before answering, give an example that is clearly stating or implying sex before marriage and not an overall fornication that has the meaning of general sexual sin, which is what we are trying to clarify in this case.


274aa2 No.654955

>>654946

Consent to sex is consent to pregnancy, and by extension parenthood. Every time you have sex outside of wedlock, you're consenting to a child being conceived and being born outside of wedlock. Can you see the problem with this?


22e916 No.654957

>>654955

Yes. But what do you call wedlock? Does it require the service of a priest? And most importantly what is God's will? I see the social problem you are trying to point out that may arise, however here we are trying to find out what He wishes first and foremost


2000da No.654959

>>632413

A relationship that is non-sexual is more pure than a relationship that revolves around lust.


274aa2 No.654961

>>654957

>But what do you call wedlock? Does it require the service of a priest?

Well, in the Catholic understanding, the sacrament of marriage takes place when a baptised man and a baptised woman consent to be married to each other until death. The priest is there only to witness the sacrament.

>And most importantly what is God's will? I see the social problem you are trying to point out that may arise, however here we are trying to find out what He wishes first and foremost

Isn't it pretty obvious? Do you think that He wants all children to be born to a loving home, or to an already broken home?


d0ef6c No.654962

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why is anything a sin? Let's all go to a gay orgy and do heroin, we're not hurting any body.


22e916 No.654967

>>654961

>Isn't it pretty obvious? Do you think that He wants all children to be born to a loving home, or to an already broken home?

Unfortunately no, morality isn't clear and neither does God's will seem to be either. There needs to be scriptural evidence or something will not be taken as God's will. And you are not addressing fornication there, which is the topic


274aa2 No.654970

>>654967

Well, okay. Do you really think that Christians got the issue of premarital sex wrong for 2000 years, and only now do we understand what God really wants?

This is the problem with Protestantism: You can interpret Scripture any way you want. Most often Protestants do it so that Scripture conforms to our sinful tendencies.


22e916 No.654972

>>654970

First you are once again not addressing the issue. I won't respond again if you do not directly address fornication, and why it is against God's Will. I am not a protestant, I am a Catholic, and while I understand the nature of tradition, you need to address the issue at hand. This is the problem with Catholics since time immemorial, since we do not address the issues directly, and only rely on intuition, which is not always right.


274aa2 No.654975

>>654972

>since we do not address the issues directly, and only rely on intuition, which is not always right.

>what is natural law

Also, if you refuse to accept Church teaching on fornication, you are by definition NOT Catholic.


22e916 No.654979

>>654975

I do accept them but I also question them. But goodbye


4b227f No.654980

The scriptures, and the natural order, teach us that the two shall become one flesh upon the consummation of their marriage, i.e. sex. The two become one flesh, and you are always connected to the person you've had sex with, spiritually and physically, just look at how women retain the DNA of men they've had sex with, regardless of pregnancy. A monogamous relationship outside of marriage has literally no reason to not have a marriage ceremony, thereby making it a natural marriage.


274aa2 No.654986

>>654979

To be Catholic you must accept the baseline of all other Catholic teaching: That the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, and that the Holy Spirit guides it so that it never teaches error in matters of faith and morality.

If you question one of its teachings on matters of morality, you are by extension questioning God Himself. This is the cardinal sin of pride.


ba1b43 No.655071

>>632801

>I consider myself a Christian but I don't actually believe in Christianity, just some religion I made up in my own mind that "feels" right to me

You need to get yourself on the bible and get off your sinking ship to hell before it's too late


ba1b43 No.655072

>>632413

>Why is fornication a sin?

I never understood these questions asking us to psychoanalyze what God was thinking when He made these rules.


0c7b21 No.655663

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>>654979

Modernist pick up lines

>Ayy yo baby yo wun sum sin?




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