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32371e No.632078

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2018/04/09/in-effect-francis-answers-amoris-critics-dont-reduce-constrict-the-gospel/

>In a move that is bound to enrage some of the pope’s most conservative critics, he doubled down on this issue, saying that the situation of immigrants is often presented as a lesser issue, with some Catholics considering it “a secondary issue compared to the ‘grave’ bioethical questions.”

>Quoting Matthew’s passage, Francis argued: “Can we not realize that this is exactly what Jesus demands of us, when he tells us that in welcoming the stranger we welcome him?”

>Jesus’ demands, the pope adds, are “uncompromising,” and as such, he sees it as his duty to ask Christians to accept them in a spirit of “genuine openness,” without any “ifs or buts.”

>As if expecting that this point might be contested by some within his own fold, Francis says that “This is not a notion invented by some Pope, or a momentary fad,” quoting from the Book of Exodus, in the Old Testament, to further make his point: “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you yourselves were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

Well, /christian/? What have you done to welcome migrants? Don't call yourself pro-life if you don't support open borders.

8306f0 No.632080

it's be a damn shame if something were to happen to this communist mestizo child rapist


795139 No.632083

Well, at least he doesn't think I'll go to hell for it


e29a7a No.632085

It's like he doesn't realize there is a legal way to immigrate. We are meant to obey the powers that be as they don't wield their sword in vain. To endorse mass illegal migration is to advocate for chaos which is markedly unchristian. No doubt he mentioned this though and his comments are taken out of context


d4b7b6 No.632092

File: e9e507d5a4bf93a⋯.png (382.08 KB, 581x564, 581:564, abortion.png)

>>632078

Why is it so hard to be pro-life these days?


cd0ca3 No.632093

#BetterBeBaptist


01be37 No.632101

>>632092

Because the only reason why we still have a civilization worth saving is black mothers murdering their children. We'd be on our third Obama term if 52% of all black pregnancies didn't end in abortion. The floodgates would be opened to the shithole nations of the world and in our own lifetimes we'd live through the South Africa/Zimbabwe style theft of all white property.

Or, maybe there is a God. Maybe there is a God and he'd have sent AIDS 20 years sooner if we didn't abort our kids. Maybe he'd have sent AIDS sooner to wipe away all the faggots, the niggers, the degenerates and fornicators. Maybe he'd have sent a rain to wash away all the POZ and because we're killing our children he's letting us drown in it all together.


d4b7b6 No.632103

>>632101

Two wrongs don't make a right. Abortion is murder. Repent.


01be37 No.632106

>>632103

They aren't human. Thank God for Planned Parenthood.

(USER WAS WARNED FOR BREAKING RULE 2)

cabe46 No.632109

File: 09ace8173c46e18⋯.jpg (31.7 KB, 545x329, 545:329, bergoglioextreme.jpg)

>>632092

Because many people are pro-death.


630662 No.632111

>>632106

> They kill White babies, but they also kill Black babies so they’re good

You’re utterly demented. Stop wishing death on Black babies and start making White babies if you care so much.


b7b43d No.632113

>>632078

Bergoglio is abusing the Bible. The Bible does not support unrestricted immigration.

https://cis.org/Use-and-Abuse-Bible-Immigration-Debate


f2c928 No.632115

File: 688cbdfa8705b1f⋯.jpg (75.49 KB, 661x627, 661:627, DLFibPcXcAEOtvp.jpg)

>>632078

wew, what a surprise


f2c928 No.632117

>>632080

Selling out for worldly power has been the MO of the RCC even since before the schism. Remember all the Popes in history who were literal whoremongers? The medieval Pope was rotten for medieval standards, the renaissance Pope was rotten for renaissance standards, and the modern Pope is rotten for modern standards. Papal primacy itself the problem, not a single Pope.


8306f0 No.632122

>>632111

>Stop wishing death on Black babies and start making White babies

Why not both? Black babies are nothing but a drain on society- they're dead weight at best, often being gangraping, drug dealing murderers. Does "thou shalt not kill" apply to all living things, or only humans? If it's the latter, then whether or not blacks are actually people becomes the question. Science indicates that they are not, looking and being genetically roughly halfway between whites and monkeys, and behaving closer to the latter.

It's impossible to outbreed the non-whites when immigration outnumbers births. Even if you got some small percentage of normalfag whites to have more babies, it would only make a tiny dent in the demographics. At the end of the day, the problem is not that our birthrate is low, it's that there are non-whites in our countries. Look at Japan, they have one of the lowest birthrates in the world, but they are not in danger of extinction like the Swedes, Germans, etc. Birthrate does not create extinction risk, it only determines rise or fall in population. The influx of racial foreigners into your native lands is what threatens the survival of a race, and that is the issue that must be addressed.


ebc4fe No.632128

File: 88cb23f8f2b94d7⋯.png (37.11 KB, 237x213, 79:71, RedDone.png)

>>632078

>>632115

>It's another "NuVatican "Pope" said something dumb" episode

I want the NuVatican to end already. They can't get more dumber than this? C-Can they?


571883 No.632138

>>632122

>Why not both? Black babies are nothing but a drain on society

Millstoneworthy.


81a0a0 No.632139

>>632106

Dude. Repent.


ad4a19 No.632141

>>632103

this is precisely why Christianity is dead, this type of "we must love all" thinking.

No, sinners and degenerates, even if they're an entire race like the blacks, deserve to DIE. Sinners and liberals are aborting their offspring? Good, let them abort themselves, it will help rid the earth of filth, because if they're that far gone, then that degenerate seed was passed on somehow to the spawn.

(USER WAS WARNED FOR RULE 2: ADVOCATION OF MURDER)

2be279 No.632143

>>632141

> No, sinners and degenerates, even if they're an entire race like the blacks, deserve to DIE

Are you suicidal?


4e9cf4 No.632145

>Proverbs 25:28: He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Wish this disgusting spic would read a bible once in a while.


b211e0 No.632148

>this entire thread

Honestly, fuck 8chan


9cddde No.632161

these edgy alt-right breitbart threads are so tiresome


571883 No.632162

>>632161

'Alt-right'? All conservatives used to support strong borders. How did standard conservative beliefs become 'alt-right'? Stop using this stupid buzzword. Is Pat Buchanan alt-right? Get a life.


5b82b7 No.632164

If they're equally important and he doesn't condemn pro-abortion politicians then I won't condemn anti-immigration politicians.


147e01 No.632165

>>632078

>this whole thread

Christ is not a political ideology. Accept the truth that every single part of Creation is precious and repent. /pol/ has to go back to their little echo chamber of falsities and self-worship. Annoying gnostics every time man.


1d61d4 No.632166

>>632141

>blacks, deserve to DIE

Quite right! Blacks deserve to die. However, it's not just the blacks, but ALL OF US who deserve to die. Romans 6!

This is the absolute core of the faith.


147e01 No.632167

>>632166

Stop bumping this stupid gnosic bait thread


147e01 No.632168

>>632166

I mean

>Stop bumping this stupid gnosic bait thread


9ef20e No.632179

>>632078

Even heaven has a wall and a strong vetting process, so why can't we down here on earth?


18ab2c No.632189

File: 60464c49045fe71⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 17.3 KB, 360x276, 30:23, Buddy_christ.jpg)

File: 3b3a5260b8e3370⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 31.29 KB, 370x455, 74:91, Marco_palmezzano,_crocifis….jpg)

>>632179

Because the Lord put in a citizenship express lane to enter his kingdom. Or did you forget something in all the /pol/ nonsense?


2dd688 No.632190

>>632141

No, all must follow Christian rules within their societies, regardless if they're Black or White. Abortion should never be permitted, except in the case of rape or genetic defects. If Amerimuttia is destined to become a multiracial country, then so be it, it's destruction is long overdue anyway.

Plenty of White Americans already have a significant non-European admixture, so even without new Blacks and Mexicans America will never regain its purity. America has long lost its purity when it started mixing Anglos, with Irish, and Germans, and Italians, etc.


9ef20e No.632193

>>632189

>because the Lord put in an express lane into heaven

There are no shortcuts to salvation, just like there shouldn't be shortcuts into a nation. Maybe you should leave your door wide open at night and house whomever enters it. Let's see how long that will last you, /leftpol/


18ab2c No.632194

>>632193

I'd say that "Whosoever puts his faith in me shall not die, but have ever lasting life" sounds a lot like a shortcut, compared to what you had to do and what had to go way right in order to be saved before Jesus was crucified. Also shouting /leftpol/ or /leftypol/ at arguments you don't like and spouting the usual tired rhetoric isn't the power hitting discourse you seem to think it is. Jesus is the shortcut my dude. That was the whole point, or did you forget the whole reason you're on this board? "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." I don't know about you, but I think when the Lord thy god king of the universe says "That THE WORLD through him might be saved." I think he means it. God doesn't go back on his word.


fab219 No.632196

>Consider becoming Christian/Catholic

>Pope says something retarded

>Don't know what to do

God damn it stop being retarded please, you're drawing people away.


9c3a19 No.632198

File: e82a7969e8d43cb⋯.png (84.44 KB, 436x357, 436:357, BEGOME ORDODOGS.png)


b211e0 No.632208

>>632161

This tbqhwy


c98cfb No.632236

>>632078

We should primarily take in and care for the Christian ones; the Pope makes a huge mistake conflating the ones who have fled in real danger and those who come to Europe for the free gibs.

To those who insult him, anyway, I don't think that it is very Christian to hurl insults at him that way.


8efa64 No.632245

>>632189

>Because the Lord put in a citizenship express lane to enter his kingdom

Www Las. Are you even trying?

<13 “Enter through the narrow gate.v For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.


af990a No.632247

has he torn down the wall protecting the vatican?


a0467c No.632250

This man needs to be tried for heresy.


a47784 No.632253

Open Borders are also pro-rape.


06facb No.632254

Unironically the antichrist.


8efa64 No.632255

>>632254

As a Prot, no.


3c1a56 No.632280

>>632194

Just because you believe in Jesus doesn't mean you are automatically saved. Mormons and Episcopalians believe in Jesus, that doesn't mean they are saved.

Also:

>Also shouting /leftpol/ or /leftypol/ at arguments you don't like and spouting the usual tired rhetoric isn't the power hitting discourse you seem to think it is.

>when the irony goes over your head

wew lad


25c4a3 No.632283

>>632196

Popes come and go, it is the Church that remains. Don't join Catholicism for the Pope. Join it because it is Jesus' Church.


d0d43c No.632284

>>632280

Even the demons believe, and tremble.


6d4f31 No.632287

>Pope espouses values concurrent with Christ's Gospel and ministry

>fashionably reactionary /pol/ 'Christians' can't handle it, twists their brains into pretzels trying to explain how giving relief to the suffering is actually sinful if they're of a different race.

>tries to replace what Jesus commanded with their ethno-nationalist Positive Christianity on every corner of this board.


091d7a No.632288

>>632287

Nowhere does Jesus say to let invaders in to rape your family.


8f5438 No.632289

>>632287

>commie


d0d43c No.632290

>>632287

You clearly don't have MS13 in your city.


01dd27 No.632292

>>632290

According to Trump, MS13 is in every city in every state and we should draw the shades and live in fear of the coming day.


6d4f31 No.632296

>>632289

>>632288

>>632289

When the finality of the Kingdom of God comes to pass, and Christ stands before me as the Judge of my life/sins, I don't want to be the man who says he was a sheep to members of his tribe and a goat to members of another. I don't want to say that the unconditional love and grace he demanded of me was impossible because I was afraid of dying. Because I fear The Lord more than I fear dying. I fear having lived in rejection of the Gospel more than I fear less of my race existing in the world.

And if your master was actually God, and not your ethnicity, you'd be afraid too.


8effb8 No.632299

>>632296

Extremely well put, anon. God bless you.


8f5438 No.632300

>>632296

Why do you think God will be pleased with your attempts to destroy His creations?


25c4a3 No.632302

>>632296

Why can't I put in the effort to protect my family and community from outside dangers? What if bringing relief to their suffering, despite them being of another race, will in return bring suffering to my community?


091d7a No.632304

>>632296

"If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

1 Timothy 5:8


bf3f32 No.632306

File: a6ff6ae3572c202⋯.png (376.75 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, a6ff6ae3572c2026a9287b61ef….png)

>welcoming the stranger

>the stranger who hates Christ

>the stranger who hates Christianity

>the stranger who hates Christendom

We show charity to the poor to respect God, not to allow the poor to destroy those who respect God. If we can verify or even reasonably infer that the object of our love hates us and hates our love, then are we not sowing seeds on dry ground? Are we not giving to swine that which is holy?

Which comes from love: wise charity which delineates between good and evil, or frivolous charity whose sole underlying principle is one of modernist nihilism? Indeed, we must love our enemies, but true love requires appropriate boundaries and demarcations, otherwise what we have is not love, but an orgy.


3bef73 No.632312

>>632300

>>632302

>>632304

>w-why can't I be racist!! D: D: D:

I guarantee you that if it were White people fleeing their 7 year long war ravaged country, you'd welcome them in with open arms, a plate of cookies, and a happy smile. You wouldn't even ask their religion.

But since they're brown ….


e37bbd No.632315

>>632292

I doubt that's what he said. Not that he doesn't say stupid shit, but it seem more likely he'd say something about deportation.


571883 No.632316

>>632312

We wouldn't have to ask their religion, because if they were white we would know most of them would be either Christian or irreligious. Few if any of them would be Muslim jihadists in favor of shariah law. They would be more likely to integrate with the West, less likely to form rape gangs, more likely to be intelligent, less likely to live off government handouts, etc.


3ae356 No.632318

>>632316

Not necessarily true. Albanians and quite a few Southeastern European ethnicities are Muslims. These groups are as crime-ridden and problematic as the "brown" people you're condemning. Some of you don't know anything about race..


c98cfb No.632319

>>632312

The main thing for me would be this: take in mostly the Christians fleeing from persecution. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of the migrants are just Muslims and mostly Muslims who want free housing and benefits.


5967f0 No.632322

>>632115

>tfw the pope is posing for a selfie with a 80 IQ Muslim invader

Quite a lot of generations of Christian defenders of Europe are rolling in their graves right now.


5967f0 No.632324

>>632208

>>632161

Maybe you should head back to r/politics or /leftypol/.


380efa No.632325

File: 3a9b536d8e3cb93⋯.jpg (37.16 KB, 465x294, 155:98, main-qimg-6dc81550ef1f6917….jpg)

File: e34f6d561b54a0f⋯.jpg (31.82 KB, 500x487, 500:487, sharia-law-1.jpg)

File: f0642d3138b1bf5⋯.jpg (26.92 KB, 400x267, 400:267, main-qimg-411f56065fd8d6ed….jpg)

File: 23bb1092c6725ab⋯.jpg (88.58 KB, 545x309, 545:309, Sharia-law-in-Europe.jpg)

>>632319

>>632319

Whaaaaaat? You mean you DON'T want sharia law in your country? What kind of anti-Christian bigot are you? :^)


889c83 No.632328

>>632101

If black people had been pro-life and traditional they wouldn't have voted for a secular ideologue like Obama to begin with.


5967f0 No.632329

>>632326

How naive are you? It's likely why he wanted the picture: To make a mockery out of Christianity and the West. It's like when McCain went to Syria to pose with the "resistance fighters": Most of them were jihadists, and the ISIS leader, al Baghdadi, was even present to mingle with the clueless, retarded senator.


5967f0 No.632330

>>632325

>tfw there are Christians in this thread right now that unironically believe this


c98cfb No.632334

>>632325

:^)

I’m not a modern fat-right type, more of an “historical right” person, who believes in the kind of values of pre-French Revolution Europe. I’m not 100% in opposition to migration to other countries, yet this is but an invasion masked as an humanitarian crisis.


196055 No.632336

>>632325

I live in Lebanon, and trust me,you do not want Muslims in your country en masse. Now of course, there are outliers in every group, but on average they are terrible.


d75389 No.632338

>>632296

I'd be happy because I'm with my kind, as God intended.


380efa No.632349

File: a0db59985386275⋯.jpg (202.76 KB, 578x800, 289:400, 7P5M2591.jpg)

>>632330

I blame the modern leftists and the Vat 2 heretics.

>>632334

Neither am I, but if you so much as love your country your are automatically "far right" according to the "Cult of Equality". It's hard to claim one loves their country when they let in welfare parasites that hate their host country. Great Gadolig Monarchy when?

>>632336

I believe you friend. One Christian from the ME is 10000000000x better than a horde of mudslimes (wether they are white, black, brown, or polka-dot). These moon-demon worshipers are nothing but trouble.


571883 No.632350

>>632318

I know there are exceptions like Albanians. The exception proves the rule. I would be against large amounts of Albanian Muslim refugees coming in to and I know most others here would agree. I would also be in favor of letting persecuted Arab Christians in. It's not all about race, race does correlate with other relevant factors though.


83c412 No.632357

>>632196

>He doesn't know about Pornocracy

You haven't seen shit.


776375 No.632363

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.


128e14 No.632394

>>632363

That doesn't mean that we allow those we love to come into our countries and rape our women and the system.


7b8551 No.632407

>>632312

Considering most brown countries that are Catholic are larping Catholicism, I'd say it's in Christianity's best interest to preserve her borders.

We can help Larping Christians and non-Christians better in their own countries while maintaining a white majority in our own… White civilization has been the lantern of Christendom, and without them, Blacks and Hispanics would eat each other alive, if they're not already as they both live like Pagans. Strong and/or Closed borders does not mean no charity.


3dc25f No.632412

>>632363

Preventing invaders from sinning by not letting them cross the borders illegally so they can steal, rape, and murder, sounds like loving to me.


b8ca06 No.632427

>>632363

Encouraging people to be lawless is not loving, a blessing, doing good or prayer


f5d833 No.632429

>>632312

>7 year long war ravaged country

Nice meme, it's been proven most of the "refugees" are coming from Africa and Turkey

But the pope said migrants, not refugees, and attacked the idea of borders, so that would also include the spics pouring into America.


3ae356 No.632452

>>632407

>White civilization has been the lantern of Christendom,

Wrong ! White civilizations has been the greatest in dismantling Christianity in the past 60 years.


3ae356 No.632453


aac972 No.632454

File: 5642ebd1922bbf9⋯.jpg (783.43 KB, 800x2084, 200:521, 1458659463405.jpg)

>>632287

This.

ITT: Picture related


f5d833 No.632459

>>632454

Why do you communists think you're ever going to make inroads here?


8effb8 No.632462

>>632459

>"communist" is a pejorative for "people I don't like"

You crossed your own T on that one, son.


f5d833 No.632463

>>632462

>let's make a one world government

>also fuck whitey free gibs for brown people

<not communist


b7b43d No.632464

>>632287

You are acting like the only reason to limit immigration is race and racism. Religion, culture, and criminality are big factors. /pol/ acts like race is the determining factor for these things; that's up for debate. But what is not debatable is that there is a big problem with allowing large numbers of hostile people in, many of whom are Muslims, hate Christianity, abuse government services, etc.


aac972 No.632467

>>632463

>"I have literally no idea what I'm talking about" - the post


2dd688 No.632468

>>632198

/thread


be4fb6 No.632475

File: 1d1cc043dbc9e7a⋯.jpg (194.53 KB, 511x787, 511:787, 1d1cc043dbc9e7a85ff6697f0e….jpg)

>>632196

Don't be excessively ultramontanist, the pope ia not the center of faith. Ultimately, the pope is a mortal like any other, he has a very important and honourable task, that's true, but in the end, he is just a man.

God promised that He will guide and protect His Church, not that He will always keep Her earthly leaders holy and blameless. They can be as imprudent or sinful as anyone else.

(That said, this doesn't mean you have a free pass to criticise the pope as much as you want and not care about the sources and impications of what you are saying, which is an error often seen here- slander, calumny, rash judgement, etc. are always sinful and you have to avoid them no matter who you are talking about)


8effb8 No.632484

>>632463

I need you to go grab a dictionary and look up the word "Communist". Come back with the results. The reason I say to grab a dictionary is because, in any language, the lexicon is of utmost importance to proper communication. If there isn't a standardized definition of words, then communication is rendered impossible.

It would be like me agreeing to purchase from you a bushel of apples but not agreeing first on the definition of "bushel" and "apple". You can't just go making up definitions of words to satisfy your personal narrative. Since, however, the dictionary is the standard lexicon of the English language, I'm going to need you to grab one and look up "Communist" before we speak again.


f5d833 No.632504

>>632484

t. communist


5967f0 No.632528

>>632459

/Leftypol/ thinks its fun to raid every other board on this site. Makes them feel like revolutionaries, I guess.

>>632467

>t. someone that recently came to this site from r/anarchism or r/politics at the behest of /leftypol/


07e9e5 No.632534

File: 4888a9f25da2326⋯.png (265.33 KB, 600x450, 4:3, sdfghuy.png)

>>632287

>Pope espouses taking in heathens that are out to live off our social welfare system, spit on Christ and rape whatever they see

>people with an IQ above 100 realize this and call him out on it

>"Omg since when did this board become /pol/?"


bf798a No.633829

When you think about it, "love your neighbor" actually means bring in foreign hordes to replace your neighbor, who hate your neighbor, and will rape, kill and subjugate your neighbor. That's what real love is.


7f60e0 No.633871

>>633829

We all have to understand why migrants leaving their country in the first place. It's not because we're investing millions into helping their country like we did with Japan, it's because we're investing millions into fighting several failed wars for leftists and kikes. The Pope is right, no one wants to live in an area where they can be potentially killed by a drone strike because of warmongering hypocritical Semites who endorse pointless conflicts Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya.

People who advocate for the destruction any homelands aren't pro life in the slightest and that's what the Pope should be denouncing. Not the fact that people want to enforce their borders.


056262 No.633873

File: 0feada2dfcdf7e9⋯.jpg (31.65 KB, 429x544, 429:544, oliver-cromwell-unimpresse….jpg)


d316e4 No.634005

>>632141

>this is precisely why Christianity is dead, this type of "we must love all" thinking.

No it's one of the prime reasons we have prospered.


d774ba No.634045

This pope is the evil pope from that prophecy.

The fact that he deals in politics at all means that he has no faith that God will take care of people.

Its sad that spirituality is practically dead.


be11b8 No.634075

>Caring

That's right. The weak. The poor. But he's not promoting illegal inmigration. Everybody should oppose illegal inmigration. The whole discourse is a false dichotomy of the anti trump establishment and far left.




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