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anime is a sin

Do you believe it is possible to be a weeb/furry/kemonozuki and a Christian?

>>626022

>is it possible to be imperfect and an outsider and be christian

idk, ask Jesus.

>>626023

I just think it's very easy to fall into sin when "living" on the outskirt of society. I am a furry/kemonozuki and I like anime to a degree…and it's hard to find good stuff without falling into sin or coming across lewd stuff.

>>626022

Do you believe the path to perfection is progressive and you can't be a pure desert ascetic already ?

>>626028

but furry come on man

>>626034

I hope so…I got hurt in the past and I had to go into escapism to "forgive" humanity and myself.

>>626035

No, I know it was unhealthy, and it's still quite unhealthy, but I had a lot of troubles in the past…almost died of anorexia, got into homosexual relationships, even ended up being raped when trying to give up my homosexuality. In a way, God and escapism into that world is what helped me not committing suicide (something I attempted in the past, after almost destroying my liver at the age of 20 with alcohol).

>>626038

I feel sorry for you, I don't really know what to say, I have been lucky for not having those troubles :/ Don't forget God has also a living Church that can help you, like monks or spiritual fathers,…

>>626041

I am trying to get in touch with some priests in a good church here in London, I hope one day I'll be able to get over my issues and be just a normal person who loves God.

>puritans will condemn this

Big O probably has the coolest usage of Christian imagery and themes in any anime ever, I do not care even if it means nothing in the end, it's blasting cool.

>>626075

What is the difference between anime as an art form and what you posted here >>626061 ?

>>626071

>>626064

You do realize that was drawn by a DevianTart who also lit candles before an icon of some fucken anime character, right?

>>626086

>Accidentally posted the same picture twice

Oh well

You guys know the depictions of Jesus and Mary on all those prayer candles and such are heavily stylized and drawn in such a way to make them more attractive and closer looking to modern Westerners right? What's wrong with a cartoon?

>>626061

Read this and apply thyself

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/basil_litterature01.htm

what’s up NERDS

>>626094

>not knowing the "okay" hand sign is demonic representing 666

>>626205

There are no "inherently evil" symbols for symbols are material and not spiritual and unlike gnostics we do believe that "everything that God created was very good". Ok sign were used in War world I to signalise that there is 0 kills. It's hopeful. And Satan and his host do not create but corrupt (see for exemple rainbow)

>>626079

>>11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways.

*1 Corinthians 13:11

You know the thing is … if you like anime and "obsess" with it or play pretend to be one of the characters or whatsoever (I'm explicitly mentioning this because of the huuuuuuge cosplay "culture" that has gotten grip on the degenerates), that should actually mean that you're 11.

The problem is not people that watch an episode of Dragon Ball or Naruto once every few days. The problem is faggots like OP identifying themselves with cutesy cartoon girls. You see grown "men" act like effeminate faggots, because that's apparently something "cute" or whatever the fuck.

As I've written in the other, gladly deleted, faggot anime thread: If you have to go out of your way to defend this shit, even choose anime when you have to choose between your anime degeneracy and Christ, then at least one of the following statements are true about you:

1) (closet) homosexual degenerate

2) "I didn't transition yet" or "yes, I just had my transition"

3) pedophile scum

Anime is degenerate in- and of itself as it caters to the desires of faggots and socially incapable degenerates that should seek Christ for their life and get their asses up through Him rather than dwelling in this faggotry. Or why do you think are these people addicted so much and so fast to it ? It's essentially the same mechanism as for porn - but it's really worse as it's more subtle and the slippery slope is less obvious.

Again, the simple fact that weebs go out of their way to defend this shit and to annoy others on purpose with it, causing potential sin is - you might've guessed it - maximum scandalous. And the fact that these people need to spread this degeneracy here as well as on the discord server rather than going to other places where it's actually fine to do so (except of course that Paul tells you explicitly to NOT do so) shows that these people are having severe mental issues rather than just enjoying a cartoon or two at the weekend.

>>626205

yeah, it also stands for whitepride and analsex, but do you know what it also stands for ?

Ok

>>626227

I didn't say Christianity. I said Christ explicitly. You have to choose. Because either you indulge in what the Bible says particularly not to do - stop doing stuff children do when you're adult - or you actually obey Christ and the inspired Scripture of the holy Apostle Paul.

And that is exactly what I was talking about. You're going out of your way to make up shit to defend degeneracy. There are whole boards dedicated to anime and cartoons, yet you degenerate choose to spread the degeneracy here on a board where you know a lot of people are at least being annoyed by it. You don't even care whether you're causing scandal or not - which you are.

It's great that you are able to "paraphrase" my sentence right there. But that's not what I said.

Your whole post is proof to everything that's wrong with anime "culture" in first place, even on an entry-level.

>>626233

>Catholic

>assassins

>oversexualized killer nun

You have to go back degenerate

>>626240

I am pretty sure that you have never in your life read the whole of the New Testament, not even the Gospels.

>>626240

It might not be degenerate, but a lot of modern entertainments are extremely effeminate, chief amongst them is playing video games.

>>626247

It's actually true though.

Video games, most especially mainstream ones, are infantilising rubbish for bugmen who live for comfort.

Anyone have any good Christian anime to watch

>>626271

>Christian

>anime

pick one

>>626334

>Calvinist here

What would the Puritans think of you liking this effeminate garbage?

>>626214

>Abusing 1 Cor. 13:11

Has nothing to do with worldly adulthood vs world childhood. Paul is condemning the Corinthians' over-reliance on the temporary and miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit to the detriment to their spiritual growth in Christ. And the Corinthians were a group very much obsessed with appearing mature without possessing the childlike maturity God demands.

Here something Paul really and clearly told us:

"Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath…Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism…If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— 'Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch' (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. " (Col. 2:16,18,20-23)

And God:

""You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." (Deut. 4:2)

I'll leave with this:

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C.S. Lewis "On Three Ways of Writing for Children" in On Stories and Other Essays on Literature pg. 34

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>>626228

>I didn't say Christianity. I said Christ explicitly. You have to choose. Because either you indulge in what the Bible says particularly not to do - stop doing stuff children do when you're adult - or you actually obey Christ and the inspired Scripture of the holy Apostle Paul.

This anon here >>626355 already explained it so I'm not gonna bother repeating his points twice.

>And that is exactly what I was talking about. You're going out of your way to make up shit to defend degeneracy.

Where the hell did I make ship up? The only thing I did was that I gave arguments against the opinions you had. Your arrogance blinds you to the point that you cling to the idea that you must be right so much that you have to convince yourself that me, or any other person participating in a discussion is a sign of desperation, instead of just addressing the points made.

>There are whole boards dedicated to anime and cartoons, yet you degenerate choose to spread the degeneracy here on a board where you know a lot of people are at least being annoyed by it.

No one spread anime to this board, how long have you been lurking? We had anime discussions here for a long time now anon, that's because a large chunk of people who were lurking those boards were weebs from the original userbase. Dare I say, most of the original userbase of 8chan was consisting of weebs.

>You don't even care whether you're causing scandal or not - which you are.

Because the idea of jap cartoons causing a scandal on this site is idiotic, because anime was always a part of this site's culture. Besides, this is an anonymous imageboard, what scandal are talking about? This place is made so that you can post whatever you want so that you can express your opinion and challenge your and other's views. Not posting something because you might "cause a scandal" is exactly against the spirit of this place. How long have you've been on 8chan anon? You talk like you've joined us yesterday.

>It's great that you are able to "paraphrase" my sentence right there. But that's not what I said.

Yes that's exactly what you said, you're just blind to it.

>Your whole post is proof to everything that's wrong with anime "culture" in first place, even on an entry-level.

Your whole post is proof that you're too arrogant.

>>626530

I found it, it's called "Vatican Miracle Examiner". It probably will have incredible misinterpretations of the church and will just use the whole theme as a "rule of cool" thing, but I remember a Christian friend actually recommending it to me, so I don't know. No idea how good it actually is.

>>626378

Since >>626525 dealt with you, I'll just add some of my own points.

First let's deal with your comments on those anime choices.

If you avoid anime like the plague, how are you giving an accurate description and assessment of each anime? No, saying you looked at some pics or memes is not sufficient. That's how atheists treat the Bible. No, looking at some vid somehow showing anime is from the Illuminati is also not good. That's how Muslims treat the Bible.

I find especially your assessment of FotNS funny: "Mostly okay but it's got a bunch of cute side characters sometimes and a lot of power trip."

Oh? Since occasional children and women are shown as cute, that means the anime is effeminate. What utter nonsense! Women can't possess femininity in any art form; otherwise, it's effeminate.

>Power trip

>lots of sexual content and almost erotic sadism,

>Villian was a feminine gay prostitute.

Irrelevant to his argument, which is anime is not inherently effeminate

>List of European existentialist novelists and artists and one medieval allegory painter.

>Misspelling Arseny Tarkovsky

Now this is adorable! You talk about harmful philosophies and then post Tolstoy (See Paul Johnson's Intellectuals), Hesse, and Bunuel. You cry effeminacy and you post two homosexuals and a sexual sadist! Hypocritical!

You post those artists and and the next breath say:

>The values in art exist beyond the explanatory form.

Which is it? The best artists explain endurance amidst harshness of life, or art is merely emotional and supra-emotional. If art can't explain how can you extract abstract concepts like harshness and charity from those works? You especially don't understand Bruegel, who very much was using his surreal art to commentate on contemporary events. You seemed to only to pick him at random to make your argument sound more sophisticated than it really is.

>The purpose of art is to infect the feeling of the artist to others

Wrong, the purpose of art is, like everything else, to glorify God (1 Pet. 4:11) through the craftsmanship to imitate God as Creator and make things of beauty and understanding.

>The point of that verse is deep down they knew that the deities they worship are false

Exactly, so why use it in this debate?

>>626553

>The fact that you people are still arguing about this goes to show how big an idol anime is for a lot self proclaimed Christians.

I can play that game too! The fact that you people are still arguing against anime goes to show how big an idol /pol/ is for a lot self proclaimed Christians. Can you LARPers from /pol/ just screw-off already?

I'm disappointed that faggots have tainted anime on /christian/.

>>626531

>>626530

It's terrible. Probably one of the worst shows I've seen in a long time.

If you don't mind spoilers, one of the first story points involves a secret Nazi cult attempting to resurrect Hitler by impregnating women with his preserved spunk. This is followed by a short aside about a man plagued by demons his whole life eventually realizing that he's half-demon and his father was Satan. It's also filled with heavy yaoi undertones.

The show is only good for caps of the exorcism in the first few episodes. Don't bother unless you enjoy "so bad it's good" entertainment.

>>626378

>It's very easy. The most obvious case is chris chandler, but there are many more out there, like https://8ch.net/cow/res/263436.html and even more if you dare to lurk /a/, /jp/, /r9k/, /d/ and /g/ to look for traps. You've never been to /d/, haven't you?

So you have no evidence whatsoever that isn't anecdotal. Get outta here.

Also, if you really think what happened to Chris is the result of anime, you don't know Chris very well. This >>626520

>>626653

>No need for scientific research when the evidence is right in front of your face.

Categorically untrue. This is absurd and I refuse to believe that you think this is true.

The entire foundation of modern statistics is based on correlation ≠ causation. This is the case because it's incredibly easy to draw a connection between two things you think are connected when it could easily be another underlying factor.

Unless you have legitimate, scientific research to back your point, you cannot claim that your theory is anything more than your opinion. Bottom line.

There was a Catholic who posted on here last year and wrote essays about how anime was turning people gay – he'd post pdfs of his writing, meticulously researched and cited with studies from different journals. There was plenty of arguing in threads he would show up in, naturally, but he found evidence to support his perspective. He was given credit for that even if some people thought the argument he was making was ridiculous.

Unless you're willing to do the same – find studies that support you – you have no basis for all of this outside of a personal vendetta. If that's the case, fine; just admit it.

>>626685

Didn't said anon eventually conclude he was mistaken?

>>626689

Yeah, he actually ended up posting an unfinished copy of his last essay and apologized.

>>626683

>And yet here you are posting the elements that are responsible for injecting effeminacy into adult males.

that was the joke

what’s up NERDS

>>626692

Worthy of respect in it's own right.

>>626056

Season 3 when?

>>626725

>That would be an impossible task, especially for a non statistician like me. And there's not even a linear causation/correlation in this case, that's not how human psychology exactly works. Does philosophy need accurate statistics? Can you even imagine how cuteness in anime can be translated into statistics?

This isn't philosophy, you're making a sociological claim (consumption of anime leads to effeminate behavior). And there's no need to be a statistician to use research – if you remember, the internet was actually created to allow universities to share their academic findings with each other. Even today there are loads of paper and studies available online that you can find with just a google search, many of them being entirely free and others having their entire abstract posted.

Using figures from a popular website like you posted is a good start but I can do you one better. I'll give you some direction.

The idea that you have is founded, I think, in the trend of infantilized young adults in the West. Many people don't 'grow up' until their mid to late twenties and you can see this trend embodied in the rise of terms like adulting. Most people here are traditionalists and would agree with this observation, that this trend is a real thing and that it's unhealthy for society.

I actually agree with your argument insofar as that anime is correlated to this infantilization. I just think that the popularity of certain kinds of anime is a symptom, while I believe that you think it's a cause. I also differentiate between different shows in the medium, while I get the sense that you don't. Your goal should be to convince us that anime is fundamentally infantilizing, that it plays a role in this trend.

To do that, I think you should first establish a link between cartoons and anime – cartoons are much more popular in the West, and this will allow you to use all sorts of info about how the public perceives cartoons. You could easily do this by showing that most people don't differentiate between cartoons and anime.

From there, it would be pretty easy to make your point. If you could point to any sort of trend between the popularity of cartoons (especially revivals of cartoons like the Teen Titans reboot) and the problems the West has with millennials (like people living with their parents or the rise of new "sexualities), you'd be set.

>>626751

I always thought this was hilarious. A few years ago on /pol/ I saw someone post an infographic of "Illuminati/Satanic symbolism" and it had that all-ok hand gesture listed as 3 overlapping sixes. I asked the guy why the Illuminati would weaponize scuba diving signals and he told me I was a Jewish infiltrator.

>>626719

>everything I don't like is idolatry

>>626719

>You people defend your sin vehemently the same.

"Weebs" are people that like anime, manga, or Japanese culture in general. There can be pedos or other perverts that are "weebs", but that doesn't mean everyone that's classified as "weeb" is, and it doesn't make liking any of those things a sin. On the other hand, the entire point about "furry-ism" is having a fetish for animals, so it's inherently a sin to be a furry.

>>626751

ysm the inverted cross is the cross of st. peter, its actually on the popes hat, lmao

>>626860

>reddit memes

>>626865

>reddit

What's that?

>>626719

Where did cartoons touched you, anon?

what’s up NERDS

>>627668

>I've never implied that anime causes mental imbalance.

You've said statements such as:

>the anime girl INFILTRATES the subconsciousness of the watchers

>anime, it INJECTS effeminacy into the male subconsciousness.

When someone asked you if you can prove that anime is MAKING men homosexual, you proceed to fire off with your "evidence."

The aforementioned statements are not portraying a passive medium that the mentally ill are twisted by, but an active medium that is actuating change in the person's psyche upon exposure.

>Mario, Link and Samus are gay.

Lol, now you're just getting facetious, if not outright trollish. Speaking of trollish, in this very post you said:

>I've never implied that anime causes mental imbalance.

and then you say:

>The emphasis of my argument is on the design philosophy of anime and why it endorses and encourages effeminacy and unhealthy romanticization of life,

>It's not switching. Inherent harm is the harm contained within design philosophy of anime

If it's very design philosophy is harmful, then that means it is inherently harmful and thus a direct catalyst for mental illness, not a mere aggravater. When a man is, metaphorically speaking, INJECTED with effeminancy, that's not a mentally imbalanced man having already existing inclinations stimulated, that's a man being transformed by having a gender dysphoria inserted into their mind.

You are literally switching within a single post.

>How about you read Tolstoy's "What is Art?" and try to understand why I made the argument that escapism causes harm?

Perhaps I will when I get time, but I get the feeling that it is not that different from Plato's own arguments against escapism/having the passions stirred in his critiques of realistic painting and poetry, which while I thought had some good points here and there, I found ultimately excessive and pedantic.

>That does quite the opposite actually, such escapism makes the viewer distance themselves from the imperfection of reality and gratify themselves in fiction.

And what kind of people blatantly reject reality in favor of an obvious fiction?

It's no coincidence that a culture that trains their children throughout their supposed to be carefree childhoods to be robotic test takers to get into the best schools or else, and has a work yourself till you literally die of overwork in your mid-30's, produces a high amount of shut-ins in who check out of the real world and consume fantasy.

How many aging single-women hitting the wall in the West, are enamored with the pseudo and outright BDSM worlds of Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey where they get to live out their fantasies of being a powerful man's center of the universe? Twilight has high production values in contrast to a typical live action Japanese fantasy/sci-fi film, and 50 Shades of Grey is heavily anchored in a more engrossing and realistic setting in comparison.

Once again, it comes down to you blame the medium, I blame the individuals.

>>627743

Cont'd

Also I just realized I forgot about this:

>>627668

>The self gratification enabling power of anime is actually really high, probably the highest among all fantasy…

Now you're just pulling hyperbole out of thin air.

>>627778

todays episode was pretty intense, we got punished Oni who is obviously driven by her desire to meet chieldhood darling and Dr. franxx's lies about her chance on becoming human.

Hiro now goes full Oni mode aswell

soon theill probably drop that Klaxosaurus are actually Human in some Seele 2.0 Evangelion human instrumentality plot where its revealed that Transhumanism somehow turned the planet into what it is.

Oni mode that Hiro is about to enter is probably what the initial goal of the Klaux instrumentality project was, gay jews trying to become demon semi Gods, or whatever.

just theories, but i feel like the series finally kicked off after only 12 episodes, sigh.

>>627812

everything

>>627778

Neither him nor 02 are real oni

>>626079

>>626274

>>626553

>>626577

>>626719

>>627735

>>627870

Go away

>>627870

>First of all I wasn't in that discussion on Corinthians.

So you don't the thread and understand context before you post? Good to know!

>Secondly, go back to /pol/. I think it says a lot about you people if everyone you don't like or disagree with is Jewish.

Okay, but is he wrong that you should have read the thread and addressed my rebuttal before continuing on this "childish men" diatribe?

> it's that you guys will not let go of your rage as soon as someone brings your childishness and idolatry into question.

And instead of addressing me or admitting you're wrong for abusing a Bible passage to insult others and falsely shame them into legalism, you just hide beyond more insults. Your post summarized: the pot calling the kettle black.

>>627872

>That's a monster girl

Yes she is, a Shoggoth.

>probably with a dick.

Most mg fans hate that crap, and no that one doesn't. None of the MGE girls do.

>You belong on >>>/d/.

You mean /monster/.

>There's already a scientific proof that experiences are capable of affecting the testosterone levels of men.

Like narcotics, the researchers studied the effects of a physical activity, which of course would affect the body some way. But without the full text, even going by the abstract, it's hard to tell if the testosterone changed from circumstances related to winning or losing rather than the actual winning and losing themselves. For example, those who lose two or more times are less likely to do testosterone increasing activities, maybe less practicing during the season as they realize their chances for the championship shrink. It also hurts this study that the researchers did not seem to track post-season and inter-season testosterone and cortisol levels and the players' activities. And just six people? I'm not saying you're wrong in your conclusion I think you're right in saying art affects the soul, which is why I don't go out of my way to watch any anime show that catches my fancy, but that's not the study to use.

>And who do you think are making these mediums?

This, unlike other pro-anime guys here, I'm not stupid about Japan's severe spiritual problem. Out from the heart the mouth speaks, and Japan's heart is very wicked sadly. They simply do not care about God. If there's a decent anime with good morals, then fine, but that's a rare exception. I'll say it again: if we truly want anime to improve we need to pray for evangelistic in-roads into Japan's culture.

>It all started with Osamu Tezuka, a pervert himself.

Source? It's also funny you mention him, as he, among others, was influenced by Walt Disney, going so far as to trying to replicate Disney's style for Osamu's own work. This is where the famous exaggerated eyes come from. Without Disney's influence, you would probably have more natural style with brutal stories, with more nihilistic plots and themes like 80's OVAs.

>>627873

Never implied they were, but you have Jesus-figures all the time in secular media, like Superman or Neo.

>>626022

>weeb

I say this grudgingly, but yes.

>furry

Uhhh… no?

>kemonozuki

ABANDON THREAD

>>627989

>Never implied they were, but you have Jesus-figures all the time in secular media, like Superman or Neo.

not relating to that post, but you are making "Jesus-like" very, very VERY vague in this case, applying to every single superhero guy in every story.

>>627991

I…I just like cute anthro animals being either naive or cynical/darkly comical. It’s how I cope (together with the endless help of God) with the pains of my past and tge pangs of my present abd presence.

>>628000

In a way… I wish i was a cute naive fluffy thing in a world which wants to use and abuse me… I have not fully recovered yet from some past mistakes and abuses.

>>626334

> giant autistic wall of text that no one will read

lol yup he's a Calvinist, it checks out.

>>628047

>So that raises the question. If anime is inherently evil, does that mean, by extension, that Disney, and by extension, due to Disney's indelible imprints on Western animation and the animation medium as a whole….

>…that the medium of animation itself is inherently evil?

You shouldn't' have asked that question. Now its only a matter of time before you summon that cartoon-is-sin trolltard

>>626751

I want to punch anyone who claims that "Six hundred and sixty six" is the same as "six six six"

>>628033

>>628132

>Cleopatra

Easily the weakest part of the Animerama trilogy. Wasn't as funny as A Thousand and One Nights while lacking any of its style or depth.

It still baffles me how feminists and witches think Belladonna of Sadness is a remotely feminist movie, but it's not like either of those two camps are known for their common sense.

>>627989

I confess I too have a soft spot for monster girls albeit it maybe not being the most wholesome medium, although I could certainly consume far worse on TV alone.

>>628132

>though I myself am Orthodox

Yay, fellow Orthodox in Anime thread

>>628151

There are a few of us

>>628197

It's a bunch of weird rationalizations for personal taste backed up by shit like "a tiny minority of degenerates also has anime fans," "some anime contains degeneracy or has degenerate creators," or shit like this one faggot who bitches about beauty and romance in art because he's parroting Tolstoy.

>>628209

>>628197

The Tolstoyposter has also stated he cannot see the beauty in Christ's crucifixion, which on top of his dishonesty and slimy debate tactics (see Hitler's On Debating Jews as posted in >>627748

, which is a 1:1 description of Tolstoyposter's tactics) has me doubting whether he's a Christian at all.

>>628197

>Anime is pretty wholesome overall

I would say some, not overall. But most media nowadays, be it books or film, take a lot of sifting though garbage to find something good.

That being said, I do not condemn any art medium as degenerate. The content is what matters.

>>628447

I'll be straightforward with you and won't waste time to participate in your assburgerism: people like you were the reason why iconoclasm and suffering caused by that movement happened in Byzantium.

Why are gn*stics so annoying even in anime threads?

Please delete this thread brothers you'te embarrassing our faith

The thread has been cleaned up, as best as could be made out, from the derailing posts by people who were arguing over anime's morality.

>>628878

Thank you.

>>628878

PLEASE do this from now on instead of deleting the entire thread.

>>628878

Mind if I ask why it's not allowed to discuss it in an anime thread?

>>628878

Thank God. That was getting tiresome.

>>628915

Probably because of OP post, namely "Let the thread become a treasury of Images" not "Let the thread become discussion about anime". It would be like arguing that gothic style is immoral pagan papist bullshit in thread for gothic architecture.

>>628936

Wtf is /a/ for then?

>>629022

Anime discussion in a degenerate environment.

>>628878

I'm gonna take a week of rest before making my own thread about this.

>>629040

>degenerate environment

As if anime aesthetic isn't degenerate to begin with?

>>629379

>As if anime aesthetic isn't degenerate to begin with?

It isn't?

>>629385

Look man, I don't wannna talk bout this for now. Wait til next week, I'm taking a rest from internet crap.

>>629392

amen

>>629392

They just had to make the Christian faction leader a woman. Was she actually supposed to be a priest/pastor or was she just a civic leader of a religious community?

>>629493

>>629491

Ok, there are about a dozen St. Irenes.

The one that ended iconoclastism.

>>626724

I finished watching Season 2 today and dear lord I really should have just been satisfied with finishing season one and not being enticed by my curiosity. There were okay moments but the ending was so retarded and badly paced, it didn't suit the show at all. It was all a virtual reality/TV show XDDDD

I was going to write out more complaints of poor artistic choices and plot holes/badly "explained" lore but it would just take too long and it was so underwhelming I would probably forget what I was even talking about in the middle of writing the diatribe. I recommend season one highly though, everything is great and there are zero degenerate elements if anyone is worried about that. It would be satisfying enough to just think about all the mysteries that could be hidden within Paradigm city for Roger to solve. Also, as a drawfag, I can't get over how strangely cool Big-O's design looks

Dorothy a cute

>>631600

Season 2 wasn't supposed to be the final season, the executives just never bothered renewing it for a third round.

>>631611

I know but it was still terrible and there will most likely never be a third

>>631652

I don't recognize the character so I ca't say.

>>632098

can't*

>>632358

>demon has a form

>zerotwo is a demon

-_-

>>632358

holup

isnt that megumin?

>>632358

>Zero Two's oni form = an actual demon

uh huh, you need to read 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 again. Just because she has red skin and two horns doesn't mean she's an actual demon.

>>632390

>-_-

Repent ye sinner for you hath broken God's internet commandment: "Thou shalt not use emoticons unironically on image boards."

>>632393

Yeah

I hate anime so much.

The media has blurred the lines between child and adult and now here you faggots lay, bearded men talking about colorful shaking lines.

Just apocalypse my shit up, Lord.

>>632469

This, all drawings are Sin, thought Anime is much more wholesome than cartoons and of much high quality which indicates virtues like diligence and perseverance.

>>632492

mashallah akhi

>>632469

Doesn't the Bible ask to have the Heart of a Child in order to be saved?

>>632535

Can't you tell the difference between being a dysfunctional person and being nostalgic about childhood days?

Isn't a father who understands the why/how of the hobbies of his son much more capable of figuring out what the son is thinking?

>>632536

>Can't you tell the difference between being a dysfunctional person and being nostalgic about childhood days?

I can, but the two aren't mutually exclusive, especially when whole subcultures are built on these twin phenomena.

>Isn't a father who understands the why/how of the hobbies of his son much more capable of figuring out what the son is thinking?

He is, correct, and any father who finds his son watching anime should probably start planning how to help his son out of it, because he should realise that a 20-30-something young man who spends his leisure time watching effeminate cartoons is unhealthy and a serious silent-scream for help.

It is just as bad as having a son who spends his time watching E! or MTV all the time.

what’s up NERDS

>>632536

>I can, but the two aren't mutually exclusive, especially when whole subcultures are built on these twin phenomena.

The lack of ability to discern does not mean the two are the same.

There's plenty of "non-anime watching adults" who go into fits of drunken rage on his/her wife and ruin househoulds.

You are under the illusion that you can block your son's free will.

Free Will is a given, either it comes naturally, or it comes via teenager rebellion.

After some age, either he will join the MTV and JerseyShore club, or the pro-traditionalist anime club.

(the two members repel each other).

Hint: One of them comes from literal Pizzagate Satanists and other manner of Apostastes, the other comes from a Traditionalist country, albeit Polytheist.

Choose your route. Wishing for a perfect option? That way anyone can choose. That is the baby-mind option.

>>632657

I just want to give you a (you) because you've tried so hard throughout this thread and have been so consistent, and have made me smile and giggle.

>>637347

wow, such proof, much true

>>635797

>Board holy enough to repel JIDFs

This board repels most political causes, once they realize our genuine refusal to participate in the depravity necessary for political activism, you can call it an aura, but it's more like mutual rejection. We even disabled the flags so there are no ecclesiastical allegiances here to derail.

>>639604

> but I'ma poor fag.

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Any discord servers for Christian weebs?

>>639655

>d*scord

>>632543

Never heard of it. Went through the entire thing.

Certainly interesting.

>>640275

t. closet weeb

>>640281

he has a point, tho: we are first and foremost Christians. We are not defined by our hobbies nor our limits, flaws and failures, but by the fact we believe in the Christian God.

>>639615

I don't want to be rich, but it would be nice to have enough disposable to get Serenity.

>>639655

Seriously, use IRC.

>>626006

Anime and everything that is related to it in any way has to be banned. The fact that there are armies of weebs defending this filth with all passion shows how much of a problem it is.

Go out, get a job, do something useful with your time, talk to people, meet girls irl and stop indulging in this literal trap that was designed for young and desperate men to grow addicted in a hurry and fall down the slippery slope that will inevitably lead you to pedophilia and the likes.

>>643322

Source?

>>643325

https://vndb.org/v6710

>>626066

i know right people like animated pictures. surely they are going to hell. they must be empty uncreative husks who hate life and wait to die so that they can go to a heaven with no beauty or joy only the same empty monotony that made this world fallen in the first place

Vatican Miracle Examiners is pretty dope

>>649662

>he doesn't use christfag

Before you complain about it being a derogatory term it isn't, the word Christian was an insult we adopted as our religion's name.

>>649662

>>649664

please be patient I have autism

I dont know if I stepped on any toes or not, if I did please know I didnt mean to

polite sage for not contributing anything

>>649664

Please don't mix Christ in with degeneracy. It doesn't matter if it's not being used in a derogatory way, it's still insulting to Him and we are called to be perfect. It's kind of reminiscent of sodomites reclaiming the word "fag", too.

>>649904

I'm just getting into it, reading through Berserk and dad's copy of Nausicaa.

>>649917

>calling anons *fag is degeneracy

Our religion and board's name was originally an insult. Should we ignore linguistic evolution and change our name to something more inoffensive like JesusPeople?

>>649891

This is why the nips are going to save the west from degeneracy.

>>643312

Ded site is ded. I enjoy reading the Beneath the Tangles christian anime blog, I wish they had a forum or something… Forums are pretty web 1.0 though.

>>650006

What happened to it? It seems to have hit peak activity just a few years ago, and now it's dead.

ironically a lot of anime is more wholesome than hellywood

>>650892

I've never seen the show you're talking about but at least anime ladies dress more moderately with skirts and dresses and stuff and there's not a lot of fornication. Western media is just pure garbage though, so it's hard to be worse.

>>650892

hehe, I never watched anime but perhaps I will watch this one just due to how much rage it causes amongst the """progressives"""

also

>third pic

Why do they think that pederasts are only one who watch anime?

i like japan

>>650892

Liberals….being triggered….by Trigger….

>>650894

So far only one couple had actual sex and they got married the day after. Actual sex and marriage and reproduction are hidden from the characters by the elite who use them only to pilots mechas (which is like a counterfeit of sex). So the characters had to figure this stuff out on their own.

>>626616

*Reads spoilers*

There it is, the weirdest shit I'm going to read all day…

>>650968

Sure, give it a try. Just a warning though, it's about the relationship between man and women but it isn't a very /christian/ show. Here's some things theat some christanons might dislike:

>The robots are piloted by couples in what looks like a stand-in for sex. The pilots are wearing skin tight outfits.

>The couple >>650992 mentioned where previously paired up differently, some anons think of the fact that she didn't get together with her first partner as "cucking".

>The female MC, 02, has horns as she is based on the demonic looking Oni (pun intended) from Japanese myth. She is also barren.

>The society is ruled by some sort of man-made pseudgod figures, which the characters have to pray to.

>Said society sees the union between man and women as filthy and disgusting. Yes, the bad guys are pretty much a genderfluid tumblr society that sees emotions and "cis" as evil. I'm not making this up.

>One of the characters is apparently homosexual.

How's your Jap learnin' going, Anons?

頑張って！神様への栄光！

>>651054

>portraying degenerates and manmade false gods as antagonists is a bad thing

>a nation referencing its own non-christian mythology is also bad

No, that's not what I meant. I just mentioned it because it's in the series and I assumed some anons might be offended in for a surpise if they judgde it by SJW reactions and assume it's a completely wholesome, /christian/-related series.

>>651049

>One of the characters is apparently homosexual.

heavy spoilers

You could say two were at the start, and now one is. The male character Mitsuru was shown as having wanted to pilot with the main boy Hiro since he was a child. He was angry with Hiro for forgetting that he had made a promise back when they were kids that they would pilot together. Since piloting is a stand-in for sex many viewers took that to mean Mitsuru was gay. In the course of the series he managed to overcome those passive-aggressive feelings and developed feelings for the female character Kokoro. They had sex and got married. This is another reason Tumblr is mad about the show, because they see this as an 'ex-gay' conversion. There is another character, Ikuno, who is a lesbian, though (celibate with an unrequited crush).

>>651059

>heavy spoilers

Yeah but I don't really think that's enough to count him as gay. He was just a <10 years old kid at that point, with feelings that where somewhere between admiration and love.

Of course, tumblr took that as a clear sign for him beeing 100% hardcore faggot who wants to dine on dick 24/7 for the rest of his life. Vid somewhat related to that crazy mindset.

>>627794

>>627983

>>627993

>>628091

>>628151

>>628489

>>629421

>>632390

>>632393

>>632495

>>639661

>>649612

>>650968

>>651060

all me btw. IP changed for some reason, perhaps due to router or some other reason and only now I've mentioned it.

Also, minor note: BRING THE FLAGS BACK

>>651060

> Moses with horns due to retarded translation

First, qrn can be read as horn (there was no vowels in Hebrew)

Second, horns used in translation means principally "horn or ray of light".

Third, not reading it as "horns" demolishes connection between God's glory and strenght.

Fourth, it also demolishes messianic symbolism.

Fifth, it demolishes altar conection.

Sixth, we had good time triggering Jews by it even if we see horns of Moses as something univoqaly positive.

>>651247

what? get some psychological help m8…

>>651060

>Darling in the Desert

>>651198

If you search long enough you would probably find theology for everything possible.

Jerome knew his Hebrew well and spend an awful lot of time talking with Rabbis to make sure that his translation is faithful.

Qrn means both "to shine" and "horn". LXX says that face of Moses was "encircled with glory" which is not quite literal translation.

>>651749

>>651746

Ghost Stories dub is one of the greatest comedy animes out there.

Plus Momoko is basically andersonite except you know, repented lesbian part from here and it's amazing

>>652317

Watching this just made me super depressed that I'll never have a perfect gf like this.

I'll just bump the thread for no reason

>>656069

Love this show so much, could have done without the scene where they wash their bikes with their boobs though.

>>657337

Fate is 'pretty dumb' at best, and a celebration of sorcery.

Their consistency in making "people who don't have a wish for the holy grail" various kinds of Christian is neat, however.

Mordred is portrayed as much MUCH more sympathetic than the legends, besides being a girl.

Duke Astolpho/Astolfo, son of Offa of Mercia (Otto of England), Paladin of Charlemagne. And every British person I know who's familiar with Fate (all one of him) hates the depiction as well.

>No wish

I didn't notice that. Good point. Even the golem maker didn't have desire for the grail.

Astolfo was the name! I don't know if forgetting says something about the progress of my conversion, or the depiction's shallow character. I even have liberal friends dissatisfied that they went halfway on the whole idea. Making him a crossdresser instead of transsexual.

They make the point that the Japanese don't consider homosexuality to be a real thing, and instead see it as a phase or fleeting attraction.

In fantasy, I don't mind depiction of sorcery and science fiction. Writers need some kind of crutch to make things happen.

It would be brilliant to have a profit show up in the middle and just break everybody's shit off in the most boring way possible. Could you imagine a story where someone banishes everybody's power source, then just walks away?

>>651073

The most good looking Priest I've ever seen up to this point.

>>657874

The actual Avicebron was Jewish, though the character is highly influenced by surrounding legend as per the norm for Fate.

Tell your friends that that's dumb and at worst they shouldn't wish that on people and at best it's not necessary. By their own standards they're also removing someone else's """validation,""" without even touching the fact that people hate the disservice done to the legendary character.

I'm not sure what your second point is, maybe autocorrect took over.

>>657881

yeah he's so classically good looking in that sense i really wonder if he is gay or something and ran to the priesthood in order to escape that.

if he's straight then i respect him more for becoming a priest because of more of a sacrifice. however with the utter faggotry in the clergy i have my doubts. i probably wouldn't join the clergy for a while because of all the fags either.

>>652007

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Anime as done by Eric Cartman.

anime is a sin

yall tiggas trippin

>>658120

To be honest you can't go wrong with any of the entries from the World Masterpiece Theater series, seeing as they're all based on classic literature. I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Flying House.

>>658120

>>658120

I visted Prince Edward Island last week. Great place and the original Green Gables house.

Lots of Japenese tourists, didn't know it was huge there until then. A must visit for sure if you're ever in Canada(Drove 16 hours from Toronto and vactioned in the maritimies)

>>660766

I played a bit of the last of us 1 tho and I really liked it. I'm so sad they're going down this route.

>>660766

When I watched the trailer, I thought it was odd that the lesbian partner of the protag had such predominantly Jewish features but I just disregarded that as a mere coincidence (I mean, it's no coincidence that Jews have such a strong presence in all this LGBTBBQ nonsense but nonetheless, if one spent a large amount of time in such social spaces, it's possible one could think that those Jewish features are "normal") but everything you just said really finalises what's really going on here.

>>660766

>>660777

>>660780

Boycott Last of Us and spread as much bad reviews and shit as you can about it. We have to fight back.

>>660782

Dude this is the day and age in which even Battlefront 2 did not even manage to make a big dent in EA's stock price. (Gay)mers are stupid and will buy anything.

Is pirating anime a sin? I cannot justify it as a grave matter and most of the licensors show little respect for the material, but there's a nagging doubt in my mind and I'd hate to go to Hell for such a foolish reason.

>>660974

Anime is a sin but pirating is also a sin so it all cancels each other out so you're good.

>>657813

Will this series ever not be unholy Netorare?

>>660974

Pirating is literally a synonym for theft. Theft is a sin. 'Nuff said.

>>662199

>gurren lagan

>christian themed anime

Lol wut? Since when? Explain like im 5 how that anime is christian themed. not trying to be snide genuinely curious how you arrived to that conclusion

>>661142

It's not.

With theft you steal someone's position and thereby the rightful owner loses it.

With pirating you make an exact copy of something someone possesses, you do not take it away from the owner.

>>662251

It is a violation of copyright law. Render unto Ceaser that which is Ceaser's.

>>662256

Is it Ceaser's?

I would actually watch an anime of these religious leaders being forced to work together and work out their differences.

>>629008

>>662292

Saints Young Men for 300.

It was okay, as comedy. Like gabu-whatever, it's more inpired by than adherent to.

>Anime is sin

>The biggest memes/trends in manga/anime nowadays are things like handholding, pair bonding between a man and woman, power of friendship, and HOPE

>Things like NTR, rape, bestiality and general evildoing are intensely demonized

You can even argue that stupid MCs who can't get a hint (either by ignorance or because they're not ready yet) and are bashful to the slightest bit of lewdness are doing celibacy right.

I don't get the enmity going on over it.

>>664665

What good is hand-holding, friendship, and other secular traits without Christ?

Let's compare anime to another medium; literature for example. Basically any writer pre-enlightenment was a Christian and pursued Christian values; by your logic, does this not make it more worthy of pursuit than anime?

>>627778

> Darling in the FranXX?

Garbage anime for gamma losers.

>>664695

That post is 3 months old…a lots of things changed at the time…

>>664682

R. R. Tolkien was catholic. What then?

>>664727

Just leave him by, he's absolutely inadequate in responses. What did that post had to do with the post he was replying to at all?

>>664729

Well, he wrote non-christian fiction for instance. Lotr is basically fantasy paganism.

>>664755

What about all the superpowered people and objects, literal demonic hords and everything involving sauron? And the whole killing business for a magical ring?

>>664682

>What good is hand-holding, friendship, and other secular traits without Christ?

>Let's compare anime to another medium; literature for example. Basically any writer pre-enlightenment was a Christian and pursued Christian values; by your logic, does this not make it more worthy of pursuit than anime?

So….basically we should only ever read post-pagan pre-enlightenment literature ever. In spite of a literal Saint telling us to read non-Christian material in a spirit of discernment:

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/basil_litterature01.htm

>>664698

I very much doubt that. Gammas are born, not made, and DITF's director is a veritable gamma.

FranXX is a cringefest. The only reason you might think otherwise is most likely because you're a gamma loser yourself.

>>664764

Anyone who unironically uses PUA terms/labels beyond Alpha or Beta is a nerd, period.

>>664764

What? I just stated that in the last episodes, plot changed to worse and quality dropped. Though I dont know how will it continue on the next episodes.

Anywho, you can take this retarded slang to wherever it is accepted, like on garbage fest boards of /pol/ or halfchan /int/. But you are on a Christian board and should follow certain rules, one of which is to be charitable. If you want to discuss anime plot (without manchildish namecallings) this is a thread for it. If you dont, then refrain from insulting other anons.

>>660549

Cartoons are sin, Anime is art.

Official /Christian/ Anime:

Cromartie High School

Kaiji

>>664865

>Hentai

Who is even talking about hentai? Anime isn't hentai, hentai is part of anime. Are all books erotic fiction because some of them are erotic? Learn to tell the difference and get a hold of yourself.

Also looking at porn does not equal desire for your neighbor's woman (actual lust). Masturbation is not a sin as long as you don't get addicted and become a slave to it.

>>664870

>Masturbation is not a sin as long as you don't get addicted and become a slave to it.

thats actually wrong as stated by numerous church fathers but STOP DERAILING THE THREAD

>>664865

>Go ahead.

Not that it matters, since you're probably going to find some other way to spin this towards your argument:

Galaxy Express 999, Captain Harlock, and other Leigi Matsumoto animes - Themes of masculinity, sticking to principles (even taking a moral stand amidst foreign cultures, regardless of said culture's morality, thus implying a morality that is non-relative), taking calculated risk and going on adventure, etc.

Unico - Pagan gods are portrayed as power-hungry egotistical jerks that no one in their right mind would want to worship. Main character is a unicorn: literally a symbol of Christian purity, that said pagan gods target for death or eternal banishment. Unico brings joy and brings out the humanity and morality in whomever he encounters. Second movie literally has him overcome a villain, wounded by rejection and maltreatment, through compassion and friendship and forgiveness.

Rozen Mainden/Sky Crawlers/etc. - "Stop being a shut-in NEET and get out there and live life!" the anime.

Serial Experiments Lain - Predicts the ups and downs, wonders and horrors of the Internet becoming a inseparable part of our lives before the Internet hit critical mass.

Kino's Journey (the early 2000's version; have not seen the new one yet): Morality tales covering such things as the evils of absolute democracy, remembrance of one's roots, the need for one's thoughts being private, etc.

Omishi Magical Theatre: Risky Safety - Life is worth living, and you should not kill yourself, even if things go horribly wrong.

Macross (original TV series and movie, and uncanonicial sequel) - Aliens and humans war out of misunderstanding but ultimately come to peace via cultural exchange. Themes of people being more than just mindless tools, and needing something beyond job/occupation and conflict in their lives.

Orguss - Main character starts out as an irresponsible playboy with a Devil-may-care attitude. By the end, develops towards being a responsible adult who cares about the future and the big picture of life.

Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket - Child who romanticizes war comes to see it's true horrors, as well as the humanity on both sides of the conflict (a lot of other Gundams have similar themes).

Paranoia Agent - Critique of the culture of escapism and evasion of responsibility endemic to the modern world.

Kurogane Communication - Hope, friendship, and never giving up, even in the midst of the Apocalypse.

Now and Then, Here and There - Hope in the midst of horrifying suffering. Blatantly pro-life message, as woman who is raped chooses to give birth to her baby after being tempted to abort it. (and no, the rape isn't hentai. It is portrayed in a manner designed to elicit horror in the audience, such that if you were to masturbate to it, you would be a sicko.)

Assemble Insert - Comical critique of the perils of pop-culture stardom.

Perfect Blue - Darker, Hitchcock-eque critique of the perils of pop-culture stardom.

Howl's Moving Castle - Theme of youth being the product of one's mindset, rather than age.

There's even anime with some questionable content that's worth watching for good themes:

Evangellion - Critique of NEET/Otaku culture. Analyzing, via the various characters, the numerous ways we engage in an unhealthy escapism from reality. Whether it be Shinji, Gendo and Rei's similar but different methods of avoidance of emotional bonding; Asuka's over-the-top narcissism; Misato's promiscuity, etc.. Also ultimately has an anti-Buddhism/anti-Kabbalah message: saying that the ego/soul annihilation sought by these religions is a false hope, and that rather one should bear one's cross bravely throughout life in spite of the pain and suffering, because avoidance of such pain and suffering is far worse:

https://youtu.be/USKzAj1dOq4

Cowboy Bebop - Come to terms with your past and forgive, or else you will end up destroying yourself.

Macross Plus - Themes of forgiveness and moving beyond past grudges.

But I really don't know why I bothered, since you'll probably just shoot back with something like "EXCEPTIONS THAT PROVE THE RULE!" no matter how many I list.

>>664911

>every anime fan is addicted to masturbation

Care to prove that sweeping generalization with something other than your opinion?

>nearly impossible to occur with a Greek Drama or even Shakespeare.

Ummmmm… yeah…. about that…..

http://archive.is/fabCN

>But that’s men for you – and statues. A little light reading in the classics might have warned of the danger that lifelike, sexy statues can arouse a less than philosophical response.

>For this sordid tale of wax and lust recalls a story the Roman writer Pliny the Elder tells about one of the most famous statues in the ancient world. According to Pliny, men who visited the shrine of the Aphrodite of Knidos on the island of Cos could not contain themselves. This nude, by the Greek master Praxiteles, was initially rejected by the people who commissioned it because of its provocative nakedness: the community of Knidos bought it and it became a popular tourist attraction.

>Pliny says one man was driven so wild he tried to have sex with the marble statue.

>“A stain,” says the Roman author drily, “bears witness to his lust.”

And this was not an isolated incident. There were perverts back then treating STATUES like blowup dolls. You really think there were no perverts back then getting off to the tales of incest and illicit affairs in such dramas?

>I have dealt with masturbation for years. Hentai has led me down a rabbit's hole from hell into endless fetishes and other sexual deviancy I only managed to escape with the grace of God.

So my assertion that you have a personal axe to grind from your own negative experiences is correct. Praise God, I'm happy that you managed to get out of that hole you were in, but not everyone has experienced what you experienced just because you did. There are some guys who literally hate all women (and vice versa) because of their rough experiences with the opposite sex in their formative years.

Believe it or not, some of us enjoy anime in a non-pornographic way.

>>664911

>>664912

thread has been cleared from derailment. Please dont start it all over again

>>664918

My apologies, though I think this post >>664911 contributes to the main theme of the thread.

>>664919

Yes, of course. Its an interesting list

>>664760

>What about all the superpowered people

Higher powers are angels, elves are nerfed humans without original sin, rest are just virtuous humans or human-wannabes

>objects

Biblical/Catholic. Relics of Saints are powerful (such as stuff of Moses, cape of Elijah or aprons of Paul)

> literal demonic hords and everything involving sauron?

<Denying demonic and/or demoniac

>And the whole killing business for a magical ring?

Ring was basically magnifying glass.

>>664911

mods deleted my post!

well, how can I respond without a derailment? in any case, I'll let the fruits of anime on this generation prove my point.

>>664912

By Greek Drama I mean what was left to us by Euripedes or Aeschylus or etc etc.

I'm well aware of the pagan roman theatre, but none of this is left in any serious capacity with us.

Perverts treating statues like blowup dolls sounds an awful lot like daikamuras…

What can anons tell me about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? is it worth watching? I just know about it from memes mostly, but have not much of a information about it, though I like shows with supernatural themes in general.

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