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d04459 No.618422

>why do protestant bibles remove verses 9 - 24 from psalm 138?

>Probably because it's partvif the aprocrypha. I can't find an english version if it just the latin one

>>psalm 138:9-24

>They're in Ps139 … well, no, not … perfectly …

>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+139&version=KJV (24 verses)

>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+139&version=DRA (14 verses)

>My guess would be the reason lies in the differences between the Masoretic and LXX texts. Protty Bibles, particularly the KJV, are more likely to reject the Masoretic for the LXX. Sometimes.

>Very good question. Because things don't line-up perfectly, aye?

>It gets worse: Ps140 are different, too (13 verse vs just 10 DRA)

>Ps141 = 10 verse vs just 8 DRA

>Ps142 = just 7 verse vs 12 DRA

>Ps143 = just 12 verse vs 15 DRA

>Ps144 = just 15 verse vs 21 DRA

>Ps145 = 21 verse vs just 10 DRA

>Ps146 = 10 verse vs just 11 DRA

>Ps147 starts at v12 in the DRA, but otherwise they seem to match

>Ps148, 149 matching numbers of verses

>Ps150 = 6 verse vs just 5 DRA but that seems to be more how the last verse gets split up

>I'd say someone fugged-up but you might take that to be tacit catholic-bashing.

And so, the research continues. Please post here with any insights that you may have to the query.

89cca1 No.618432

The psalms are completely different, probably the Greek origin is even more messed up.


ba6ac8 No.618479

>>618422

The variance between Massorah and Septuagint texts in this numeration is likely enough due to a gradual neglect of the original poetic form of the Psalms; such neglect was occasioned by liturgical uses and carelessness of copyists. It is generally admitted that Pss. 9 and 10 were originally a single acrostic poem; they have been wrongly separated by Massorah, rightly united by the Septuagint and Vulgate.[6] Pss. 42 and 43 are shown by identity of subject (yearning for the house of Jahweh), of metrical structure and of refrain (cf. Heb. Ps. 42:6, 12; 43:5), to be three strophes of one and the same poem. The Hebrew text is correct in counting as one Ps. 146 and Ps. 147. Later liturgical usage would seem to have split up these and several other psalms. Zenner combines into what he deems were the original choral odes: Pss. 1, 2, 3, 4; 6 + 13; 9 + 10; 19, 20, 21; 56 + 57; 69 + 70; 114 + 115; 148, 149, 150.[7] A choral ode would seem to have been the original form of Pss. 14 and 70. The two strophes and the epode are Ps. 14; the two antistrophes are Ps. 70.[8] It is noteworthy that, on the breaking up of the original ode, each portion crept twice into the Psalter: Ps. 14 = 53, Ps. 70 = 40:14–18. Other such duplicated portions of psalms are Ps. 108:2–6 = Ps. 57:8–12; Ps. 108:7–14 = Ps. 60:7–14; Ps. 71:1–3 = Ps. 31:2–4. This loss of the original form of some of the psalms is allowed by the Biblical Commission (1 May 1910) to have been due to liturgical practices, neglect by copyists, or other causes.




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