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Old Church Stuff Thread! Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 02:36:31 73ed9c No.617457

This is something that's kind of kind of adorable - this is a medieval pyx! Dove pyxes (pyxus?) were often suspended above the altar. Post lost church traditions!

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 03:07:15 0c6bdb No.617468

File: 91e90baa8bd8c9e⋯.png (213.99 KB, 618x408, 103:68, Ocean Baptism.png)

>>617457

Baptisms being in moving bodies of water, particularly the ocean. They used to be the norm but now they're really rare.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 03:41:25 cf31ce No.617475

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Back in the day, basically all Christians lived in community and shared all that they owned, with no individual claiming that anything was their own, allowing them to focus on God rather than personal gain. It's really sad to see that love of money has seemingly won over.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 03:52:56 d39251 No.617478

>>617457

Looks like an Egyptian idol

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 04:25:46 a52e21 No.617483

>>617475

Convents will always be a thing, and heretical as they are I admire groups like the Puritans and Shakers who ordered their whole society around the Bible.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 11:45:14 e5c2b7 No.617616

File: 603b142d3cef2f9⋯.png (57.9 KB, 640x229, 640:229, pyx - Google Search.png)

>>617457

>pyx

Ummmmmmmmmm …

THIS >>617468 and this >>617475 and love feasts, basically the Eucharistic meal with all believers rather than than wafer "meal" we have today

You guys are making my day

>>617483

Yeah, true, but it was meant to be how ALL Christians lived. And we've lost that.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 12:05:27 47ed73 No.617624

>>617478

It doesn't look Egyptian at all.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 12:11:03 f4f795 No.617629

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One of the symbols you find in ancient catacombs a lot is the peacock

>Christians adopted the symbol of the peacock to represent immortality. This came from an ancient legend that the flesh of the peacock did not decay. It is also associated with the resurrection of Christ because it sheds it old feathers every year and grows, newer, brighter ones each year. If the peacock is portrayed drinking from a vase it symbolizes a christian drinking the waters of eternal life. In addition the " multitude of eyes" upon its stunningly beautiful fan tail, suggested the all seeing eye of God.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 13:06:52 055d88 No.617642

There was Pelican in the base of Altar of my old parish. It was believed (or maybe it's true, dunno) that pelicans in times of need can feed their children with their own flesh. Great symbol.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 13:38:32 cf31ce No.617664

>>617616

The pic OP provided is a pyx (container for communion bread) but is in the shape of a dove.

Christanon 03/13/18 (Tue) 18:57:17 e6fe6c No.617809

>>617457

That is, indeed, a very adorable pyx.

Christanon 03/14/18 (Wed) 01:02:36 73ed9c No.618029

>>617642

They don't actually, even Isidore of Seville doubted it but it gets the point across. We have a pelican chasuble too https://foundinantiquity.com/2013/07/05/bird-feeds-chicks-her-own-blood/

Christanon 03/14/18 (Wed) 03:41:13 e5c2b7 No.618125

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>>617664

But, OP says it was "often suspended above the altar". Funny place to store your communion bread, that's all. In a metal bird hanging above the altar. Curious.

>>617642

>It was believed (or maybe it's true, dunno) that pelicans in times of need can feed their children with their own flesh.

That's a really, REALLY old legend that I think pre-dates even Christ. It was a ~~Greek or perhaps Roman legend.~~ nope, apparently it hails from Egypt:

https://foundinantiquity.com/2013/07/05/bird-feeds-chicks-her-own-blood/

>it is quite hard to imagine how one could even draw the real pelican stabbing herself in the chest with such a large and unwieldy bill.

Yeah, that.

https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-symbolism-of-the-pelican.html

>Given this tradition, one can easily see why the early Christians adapted it to symbolize our Lord, Jesus Christ.

… without question!